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  1. GreaserJosh13
    Joined: May 27, 2013
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    Cool. Thanks for rubbing salt in the wound Jimmy. That felt awesome. Your obviously a really good guy who's out there to help people out. Very inspirational.


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  2. Nocero
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    Get on bucks.net looks like a lot of helpful info
     
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  3. I'm gonna be on the lookout for all the yard-sale priced Buick Sedanettes! Love those cars and apparently they're damn near free these days. Does make me nervous that my 41 Super convertible is probably not worth much either though..
    Come on guys- he fessed to his **** up, let's help him along to the next step.


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  4. GreaserJosh13
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    Got a shop manual & some feeler gauges. Gonna try to adjust lash to specs & see if it does anything . I'm thinking just from the sound of the car while cranking I'm not getting enough compression. Is it even possible to hear if an engine has no compression?


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  5. GreaserJosh13
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    Ok guys. She finally fired up & is alive. HELL YEAH!!!! Feels GREAT!!!!! So it looks like it was either the valve lash or more like what Mark Yac posted. I adjusted the lash per the repair manual (17 gauge feeler gauge) & tried to get something. Didn't seem to do much . So then I squirted about 4 squirts of engine restore brand oil into each spark plug hole & cranked it for about 15 seconds. I put my compression tester back in & it immediately made a compression noise & I saw the gauge climb, so I guess my gauge was working properly & I wasn't getting any compression. I tested all of the cylinders & all but #8 had compression. I'm hoping it just needs to lubricate a little bit more. So now it looks like I'm gonna need to rebuild the carburetor. The fuel pump is pumping fuel to the carb, but I'm not getting any fuel to keep the car running. Maybe you guys have a quick fix for that or something I can try. If you guys are interested in seeing the car start up after it's long slumber & seeing a giant smoke show check out this video. Thanks again for everyone's help & let me know what you guys think about the carburetor fuel issue.
    Thanks
    Josh




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  6. scotts52
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    Nice! That's awesome that you got it going. For me, when an engine comes back to life, it's one of the best feelings. It's like a clip from Dr. Frankenstein when he yells "It's alive! It's ALIVE!"

    Can't wait to see you be able to drive it next.
     
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  7. GreaserJosh13
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    Thanks. I'm hoping to mess with the carb a little bit today to see if I can get it to run on gas without pulling the car apart. Crossing my fingers. [emoji51]


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  8. RichFox
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    Is there a filter built into the fuel inlet on the carb? They often become clogged.
     
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  9. Chris
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    I would pull the line from carb to fuel pump loose and blow it out with compressed air. Then, if hooked to the gas tank, I would get a few feet of rubber fuel line and a plastic gas can and have it running from the plastic tank. You will need a ****** for the fuel pump and probably 6 feet of line. Your gas tank may be plugged or even bad. Same with the metal line running up to the car. No sense in ****ing a bunch of dirt and garbage up to your engine.

    For the carb, pull the carb off (being very carful not to drop anything in the intake), stuff a rag or cover the intake opening so nothing can fall in, Take your carb to a good clean work bench and pull the top off the carb. May need to disconnect the choke linkage or accelerator pump linkage (I know nothing about the carb you are working on but they are basic). and look inside. See if there is any dirt, make sure the float moves up and down, check the needle and seat....then clean it with some carb clean/compressed air and put it back together and reinstall on the car (don't forget the rag). be carefull not to tear any gaskets. Use your phone to take pics before pulling so that you have pictures of how things go together if need be.
     
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  10. Fiddle Picker
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    Good luck with the Buick. Cool car. Hopefully you're fixing it and forgetting about parting it out. Half a dozen desireable parts to sell and stuck with the rest. Parts Buyers are more annoying than tick bite on the a**, and usually not happy with the parts no matter how truthful you represent them and after you've sent them pics from every angle possible they will come up with another angle they want again and again. After you have removed it and shipped it, you sure as heck don't want it back ! Always a web guy looking for a better than new part for next to nothing. Probably a part-time telemarketer. Gotta laugh, it happens. I bought a 50 Buick Special 4dr one owner couple years ago and haven't had time to get it running. Got it CHEAP. Been sitting several years, owner p***ed and his two nephews decided they would protect the car so the bought a gallon of rustoleum and some rollers and covered everything except the grille, bumpers and gl*** ! Probably why I'm not in a hurry, I found the "Special" script under one inch of paint, and so was the rest of the trim ! I really like your car !!
     
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  11. GreaserJosh13
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    Thanks for all the carburetor tips guys. Never got a chance to get at it today. Hopefully tomorrow. I'll keep you all posted.


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  12. GreaserJosh13
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    Great story fiddle picker. Post some pics so we can see what your dealing with. Glad you like the car.


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  13. Fiddle Picker
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    Ten4 Grease. Don't have any pics and I've had it long enough for my jungle to take it over ! When I finish my 53 Studebaker G***er I hope to cut the Buick out of the woods and get it running. So far all I have done is spray a lot of PB Blaster in the spark plug holes.. If it was a Sedanette like yours it would be running by now. My plans are to beef up the lower body, remove the lid (pseudo Carson top it), chop the windshield posts and shave it. That would be one cool 4 door !
     
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  14. A couple of years ago I owned a 53 four door that I saved from the crusher. It came with a good running straight 8 engine. the floors where very rusty. I sold it for$650. I paid $400 and filed the points and cleaned the carb to get it running. The Guy who bought it needed the engine. It made him a good parts car.
     
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  15. theHIGHLANDER
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    That carb looks like a Carter.If it is look down the throat.If there's a screw that looks larger than the rest it covers a flaoting check valve for letting fuel squirt through the accel system. Take it out, shoot a little WD-40 in there and let it marinate for a bit, an hour perhaps. In the meantime check for any obstructions in the delievery past the fuel line. LOW PRESSURE compressed air into the fuel inlet can serve to release the needle if it's also stuck. Shoot a little WD in there too. Before you put the screw back, give that spot another snort of WD and put it back in. Reinstall the fuel line and see if fuel is getting in, then work the throttle and see if it's shooting fuel. It should. Speaking of WD-40, I know there's better penetrants but WD will NOT hurt anything in the carb. Since you ran it on starting fluid get somesort of fogging oil into that engine very soon. Ether will dry things out inside pretty fast and remove all the work you just did getting it running. Even if you spray more WD into the engine as it cranks it'll be better than starting fluid. 2 stroke oil mixed with gas and fed with a spritzer bottle will go pretty far too, but, But, BUT, NO IGNITION. Pull the coil wire if you have to but don't spray 2 stroke gas/oil mix into the carb with ignition live. A backfire can be really ugly, real fast, real painful. BE SAFE, but do some combination of the above and you'll be well on your way to problems solved. Once all this is behind you follow the advice above and rebuild the carb. It's basically cleaning and new gaskets. Daytona Carb Service has really good ethanol safe carb kits for reasonable $$. Keep it up, you may find a new friend in that thing yet.
     
  16. GreaserJosh13
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    Thanks Highlander. I did the compressed air thing today & it seemed to free up some stuff. I Had to put a new fuel filter on because the gl*** bowl was cracked & leaking fuel. These things seem to have fixed the problem. Now I've got oil blowing out the exhaust manifold & the car won't stay running unless I throttle up a bit. I know the exhaust isn't hooked up right, but it needs to be replaced & i want to wait to spend the money until the car is running properly. Here's a video of what it's doing. Maybe it's still from all the **** I put in the plug holes. I don't really know. Any ideas or is this motor just shot. Thanks in advance.
    Josh




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  17. Mark Roby
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    Likely the needle and seat is stuck.


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  18. Mark Roby
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    Josh
    How much oil is coming out the exhaust?


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  19. GreaserJosh13
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    The exhaust is so jacked up & filled with rust holes that I honestly I can't say. I just see the oil blowing out near the exhaust manifold on the video.


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  20. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that's more than exhaust noise. Cracked piston, rings, ring lands, wrist pin and so on...
     
  21. theHIGHLANDER
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    It doesn't sound good. You have no manifold seal, or maybe you're a victim of the "not too tight" club. If I had a 10 spot for everything I've followed to find all the **** loose I could buy a Deuce 5W:eek:

    And it's true it might be toast. I'd get the engine room quiet long enough to ***ess real noises and decide from there. Too bad you're so far away
    I'd sell ya 364 nailhead cheap.
     
  22. kbgreen
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    Another trick is to keep it running but safely unplug one spark lug at a time to see if the engine noise changes. Not having the power (the fuel burn) on a bad piston can quiet things down a good bit. At the very least it will identify the cylinder causing your trouble.
     
  23. willowbilly3
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    The time you would spend dismantling and parting it out would go a long way to fixing the rust so you can drive the **** out of it. And you have to deal with people, the no shows, the skeezy meth heads scoping out your place, the long phone calls from old men who really just want to talk about their **** or what some guy they know has that's better than yours. So you can drive your Corvette in the lake or get a dislocated elbow Bernard, your choice.
     
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  24. Think we might have narrowed it down, KB. Just sayin'
     
  25. clunker
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    Nice deep reference. I LIKE IT!
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