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Discussion in 'The Antiquated' started by MRW1994, Apr 19, 2022.

  1. MRW1994
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    If there's any other threads pertaining to old tobacco tins and collectables I haven't seen them. I've always enjoyed collecting old Lucky Strike tins and unopened packs from the 30's and 40's. I also like restoring old pipes back to usable condition especially old Missouri Meerschaum corn cobs. PipeRack.jpg Luckies.jpg Luckies1.jpg Luckies2.jpg
    Anybody else like collecting old tobacco items?
     
  2. A lot of corporate history there, including examples of "Lucky Strike Goes To War!"
     
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  3. MRW1994
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    @'28phonebooth that's actually what I was looking for when I was was collecting those packs. Other than the one on the far right in the picture, which is a '52, they're all from WWII. They only year I don't have is a 1944. The first two green packs are a '41 and '42.
     
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  4. TraditionalToolworks
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    Love that stuff but don't have any. My family owned a liquor store in South East L.A. and we had a tobacco/humidor. Never as popular as cigarettes, but I have an almost identical meerschaum gord, and have a briar that is similar to the 2 next to it. My gord has the stem snapped where the stem meets the plastic, mine doesn't have threads but just twists in. I've had the pipe for more than 45 years, bought it in the 70s. This is the 3rd time I knocked it off the stand.

    I used to have a lot of old tins from the store, and really cool cigar boxes. I did smoke cigarettes when I was in high school, but my Grandfather got cancer of the vocal cords and my Grandmother convinced me to stop smoking cigarettes. I'm thankful I listed to her, the sure turned out to be a killer in general.

    I had a really cool tobacco tin, held about 5 lbs., my Grandmother stored ****ons in it. I'm not sure what happened to it or the ****on, and wooden cigar boxes, they don't make those like they used to...also reminds me, when I was a kid in high school we used to make prank calls, we'd call up a liquor store and ask, "Do you have Prince Albert in a tin/can?", and when they answered yes, we'd say, "You better let him out!", pretty sure you guys have heard that groaner before...doesn't quite work with Lucky Strike...those were hard core cigarettes, no filter...

    EDIT: those are pretty cool zippos, but I can't see what is on them exactly. I have a few zippos, but mostly prefer butane. I can make out the Mopar one if I click on it to enlarge, that is frickin' cool...BTW, guys used to roll cigarettes with papers that were called Bugler. They even predated Zig-Zag I believe...going back to the 30s. The tobacco had papers with it, and we sold the papers in our store. We even sold rolling machines...for *****s that can't learn to roll...LOL
     
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  5. Fordors
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    OK @TraditionalToolworks , you opened the door with the Prince Albert gag. How about LSMFT on later Lucky Strike packs, the one second from the right in the top row has it on the bottom.
    Loose strap means flabby ***.
     
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  6. MacTexas
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    Here are pictures of a Zippo lighter my father carried every day for 40 years. Notice the hinge broke and his fix for it. P1000841.JPG
     
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    Nail for the hinge.
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  8. MRW1994
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    @MacTexas very nice! That one has definitely put in its service.

    @TraditionalToolworks here's some better pictures of the Zippos. Firepower8.jpg
    All Mopar related. Desoto and Mr.Tech.

    Also talking about the rolling papers I have one book that would've come with the tins of Half and Half that still has papers in it. Luckies3.jpg Luckies4.jpg Luckies5.jpg
    @Fordors That joke about LSMFT was one of my dad's favorites to tell any time he got the chance!
     
  9. TraditionalToolworks
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    The Mopar is very cool, but the DeSoto could actually be rarer and more valuable. That's a very cool one.
    Now we're all dating ourselves...:rolleyes: My Grandmother's ****on tin could have been Half and Half, or even Prince Albert, there were a lot of green tins with red on them, I just remember what it kinda looked like, it had a knob formed from the tin cover that looked kinda like those cork bumpers you knock your pipe on in the ashtrays, but it was that kinda shape.

    @Fordors That joke about LSMFT was one of my dad's favorites to tell any time he got the chance![/QUOTE]
    It was one of the most common phone pranks in it's day, IMO. When I was in high school we used to call this phone service in L.A. They would charge you like $0.25 and play a joke. Of course as kids we didn't know how it worked so would call, that was one of the jokes. Another one, not sure why I remember but there was a joke about Dudley Fudpucker or Beatrice Bottlewarp, and the question for the prank was, "Do you know how long it will take a gr***hopper with a wooden leg to kick all the seeds out of a dill pickle?" The answer was usually something like, "WTF, is this a prank call?" :p

    Last piece of trivia on Lucky Strikes. The white packs on the right of the top row, 3rd pic down in OP. That was the LSs sold in the 60s. When I was a kid, like 10 years old, it was the late 60s. My Grandmother would ring the cash register, we had one of those old Nationals with the stick shift to ring and total items up...I would be backing and I would try to add up all the items in my head and get the total before she could get it on the register. At the time cigarettes were $0.23/pack, and around this time gas was about the same price per gallon (Harbor station in San Gabriel Valley). Nowadays I hear that cigarettes are between $5-$10/pack...that's unbelievable...I think you can buy medical marijuana cheaper in this state!:rolleyes:
     
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  10. 302GMC
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  11. I have this tobacco coupon, it expired in 1904. I thought the name of the tobacco company was cool. 20220420_231536.jpg
     
  12. TraditionalToolworks
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    I HOPE I'm not collecting, but you're a bad influence on a weak soul like me.

    I own a piece of property in Lake County, CA which is located on a peninsula named Buckingham Park. I had to go snooping over on Ebay when I saw your Buckingham tins...I had to have one! Had to have one...so I HOPE I will only get this one. Pretty cheap and this one has the tax stamp on it, which is pretty historical with our greedy Government when it comes to taxing Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. They even have a bureau to manage it...as you certainly know.

    I think they'll need to add another letter on their acronym. I think it originally started out as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, but the greedy Govies decided to add Explosives...I think they can tax stuff like tannerite...I digress, but NOW, they'll need to add Cannabis, so soon it will be the BATFEC...the Govies are well on their way to BATFECES.:p

    To add fuel to the fire, since the Native Americans smoked tobacco to begin with, I believe they can grow and smoke it without having to pay taxes. I paid about $15 w/tax/shipping. The telescoping case is pretty cool, says it holds 2 ounces on the offical tax stamp!:cool:

    Did I mention you're a bad influence on a weak soul like me? I do feel I'm in good company hanging out on this forum...:D I used to admit to having Machine Acquisition Disorder (MAD) disease. I like to acquire vintage woodworking and metalworking machines...oh yeah, blacksmithing and leather tools as well...:oops: I'm realizing it's really just AAD, Antique Acquisition Disorder, but don't tell me wife! j/k, if anyone knows about this disease it's my wife...:p

    (seller's pics from Ebay)
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  13. MRW1994
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    That tin is awesome @TraditionalToolworks! Hope I didn't spark a new collecting habit!

    Here's a cool old pipe. The Aristocob with a couple boxes of replacement inserts. Aristocob.jpg
    I actually tried using it once but it draws air from around the insert and the threads to where the flame wont even pull into the bowl.

    This fairly large poster was given to me by a friend. Luckies6.jpg
    It's in pretty decent shape. I really need to get it cleaned up and make a frame for it instead of keeping it rolled up.
     
  14. TraditionalToolworks
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    I hope I didn't have a new collecting habit start, but these days I just want old stuff, don't need multiples, a few different cans laying around would be cool, but some sellers were trying to off sets of them, 3-5 in a set of the same tins. I just want that type of old stuff laying around my home. I love the half and half slogan that said, "Burley and Bright". I couldn't find one with that slogan and the Buckingham, so settled for the Buckingham for right now...I can get more later...MAYBE. Just trying to be selective.

    Seems I've seen corncobs that had meerschaum inserts, much like the cob inserts. That's pretty cool!
     
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  15. rudestude
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    20220424_000650~2.jpg 20220424_001233(0)~2.jpg 20220424_001808~2.jpg 20220424_000035~2.jpg 20220424_002256~2.jpg 20220424_002331(0)~2.jpg Ok you hooked me...I have been skipping past this thread....I guess because I have never smoked...then I thought well hell I have collected other stuff, some even odd and scary....so I guess just because you collect it doesn't mean you use it or have used it....Thank God.
    And I do have some tabacco related stuff around...I will start with some old ads from magazines, I always liked the ones that say 4 out of 5 doctors recommend what ever brand...I remember when doctors would walk in the exam room and ask how you doing as he's putting out his cigarette .
    I used to sit and watch my grandfather roll his own cigarettes...one handed...thought that was cool, my dad smoked and sometimes he would have my little brother and I go to the corner store to get us some candy and pick up a pack of cigarettes for him, we usually bought the candy cigarettes for our self if they had them...I was about 10 years old...he would write a note to the store owner giving him permission to sell them to us....times have changed...when we got a little order we would make cigarettes for him using one of them cigarette rolling machines from ronko? My brother and sister and I would sit at the dinni g room table and pump out a few packs at a time...and none of us picked up the habit...I think they both have tried them but never went further...I have never even tried one ...first hand anyways.
    Well heres some ads earliest are 36 a d 37's
    and some into the 40's even some Santa Claus being naughty
     
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    Guess I better start looking for that stuff when I'm digging around the salvage places I haunt.
     
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  18. MRW1994
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    @rudestude those are some very interesting old ads. My dad used to talk about rolling cigarettes for my grandfather when he was a kid as well. Definitely different times. For the better now that everyone knows the health impacts, I just find the history and how different it was not too long ago very interesting.

    @TraditionalToolworks that's pretty cool about a meerschaum lined cob pipe. I have one meerschaum lined Italian made briar pipe and a solid block meerschaum but no lined cob. Will have to keep an eye out. Meerschaum.jpg
     
  19. TraditionalToolworks
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    Those are nice. The top one is the type I mentioned that is hard to keep clean. Some denatured alcohol does wonders on it, effortlessly. I have one briar also, I don't use it much but I like wood stuff...
     
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    My dad smoked a pipe for as long as I can remember, I gathered up some of his old pipes after he p***ed away, I'll try to remember to post a photo when I get home. HRP
     
  22. MRW1994
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    @HOTRODPRIMER I would enjoy seeing them. My grandfather apparently had a bunch of pipes in a stand much like this one... PipeStand.jpg
    ...but I guess they were thrown away after he died. I would've liked to have had them.

    Here's some old Missouri Meerschaum corn cobs that I cleaned up and used frequently until I found a Peterson system pipe I really liked. MM.jpg MM1.jpg
    The older ones were very nice quality and had a wooden plug in the bottom of the bowl.

    Some of the ones from the 30's and 40's were actually pretty fancy. This is the oldest one I have. MM2.jpg MM3.jpg
    And a couple more. MM4.jpg
     
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  23. Wanderlust
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    Really funny how things come full circle, when I started smoking sorta regularly at 13, my parents made me go outside ( both pack/ pack and a half a day) thinking this would discourage me, well I smoked for 8 more years till the price got to 1.50$ and I couldn’t countenance paying that so I quit. When I was a youngster everyone smoked, yes doctors. I remember going to the bar and the air was so blue with smoke you’d have to cut a wedge out to find your friends across the room. Now I see all the smokers segregated and outside, oddly enough on a crisp cold day if I smell cigarette smoke I can still feel the hook.
     
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  24. 210superair
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    I'm currently collecting lung cancer, does that count? Lol. Actually Goin to the doc this afternoon for quit smoking pills....

    I don't collect any per se, but I have a few of the things my grandfather carried with him during ww deuce in the European theater. One of which is a lucky strike zippo. Also have a harmonica. Both in pretty bad shape, but both work.
     
  25. TraditionalToolworks
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    I certainly think it does, but it's hard to quantify until it kills you. I think by definition cancer is some some unknown disease/growth/damage to our bodies. Some tobacco doesn't have too much nicotine, so it's not clear to me if the western culture didn't do something or select some strain that had it. In the same way we were told how safe asbestos was all those years...and our vehicle brakes were the worst, dust everywhere on the freeway...stop 'n go traffic??? Kinda scary.

    You don't really need pills, but if they'll work for you, get them. Anything that will help you get through the first couple weeks, IMO.

    First thing, just gather all your tobacco and throw it out. If you're not able to actually quit, you should force yourself to buy more tobacco, otherwise just keep smoking. Many people smoke for many years, just that modern numbers are not as good. Could be because of something in the tobacco, we don't know. Turkish tobacco doesn't have very much nicotine in it, you can get it at a Tobacconist store of all places.

    I just want you to be honest with yourself. If you want to quit, do it, gather all your tobacco and lighters, throw them out. Save any vintage Dunhills though, just throw the Bic lighters out, or save them for your kitchen.

    If you are not intent to stop smoking, just keep smoking and don't f#@$ with your own head. I had a good friend that went this route, he kept smoking until he was spitting up blood and went into the hospital with stage 4 lung cancer. That's the way he decided he wanted to go...

    This is probably not a great thing for me to suggest, but cannabis is not carcinogenic. It costs more than tobacco, possibly, and not something you would smoke continually. It's just interesting that there is no scientific evidence that cannabis is carcinogenic. You would think it would be, but it's not. Since you're in Michigan, that's something to consider to pacify the smoking habit itself. Wow that's a long message to literally say, "it's time to $#!T or get off the pot!", or would that be "it's time to $#!T or get ON the pot!"?:p
     
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  26. 210superair
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    Me smoke pot?!?! Nahhhhhhh!
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  27. HOTRODPRIMER
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    I recently turned 72 and I grew up in a house where my dad smoked a pipe for as far back as I can remember, I am somewhat of a oddity, I have never smoked a cigarette nor has Brenda, her dad smoked cigarettes like a freight train, we just never had the desire.

    Both our dad's p***ed away from lung cancer. HRP

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  29. 210superair
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    My grandpa smoked cigarettes, a pipe, and chewed tobacco. He died of a heart attack, which often gets left out of the smoking dangers conversation even tho it's more likely to kill you than lung cancer. I heard on a radio discussion last week that 30% of cancer is caused by smoking. I found that number shockingly low actually.
     
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  30. 302GMC
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