Too cool- Tractor bodied roadster renderings!

Looks like an Ford 8n.

 

Yes sir, it is. I have my Dad's '48. "Torque them Taters".

 

More pants

 

8n/9n/2n grills are selling for about $55-105 on ebay, shipped...

 

It's hard to tell the difference between a 9N/2N/8N from those BITCHIN drawings, but the color of the bottom one is 9N grey all the way.

I grew up with these old Fords and drove them LONG before I could ever drive a car. My dad restores them and knows them all like the back of his hand. He's one of those guys who knows the PNs by heart...and he digs these renderings!

Anyway, I think the boattail track-ter needs a pair of 'single bead' tires on the front...

 

I thought it was too, except that the 9n/8n/2n have a double bead down
the side.
The drawings have a single.
The grill also appears different enough to make me wonder....


regards,
DJ

 

I've always thought Mods and such looked like hot rod tractors, or vice versa.
my 27 project needs a '30s oliver row crop or cockshutt grill assembley. The MM model Z unit that's in stock now isn't as prrrrty.

 

I was going to go with an old tractor grill shell for my model a, but they are hard to get. it's hard to find tractor junk yards. I only know of one junk yard around here near menomonie, wisconsin.

 

My buddy from Missouri says theres tons of yards there... To bad I live in AZ.

 

Golly, I always thought tractors' bigs & littles made 'em look like a hiboy on steroids... Guess I'm not so weird after all

 

man thats neato my father in law is going to hate when i strip is old tractors for parts.

 

It'd take some effort to make it work (unless you drive REALLY slow), but I think this would make a cool centerpiece for the gauge cluster.

 

Damn those pics are too cool. My grandpa has a 8N or 9N (dont remember) in his backyard that is rotting away. Hmmmmm.....What cowl would I use though? I thought 28-29 Model A, make custom sides (no doors) and a 40 ford hood for the boattail. Banjo rear, the 4 banger out of the tractor (i beleive it runs) tractor steering wheel, steelies on front, and some kind of tractor rim on the rear with soem knobby tires. Hmmmmm......

 

I was out a friends farm last weekend with a bunch of guys having a few beers checking out an old mccormick tractor he bought to use for a log splitter. I made a comment about how the tins on it would make a cool ride and they all looked at me like I had 4 heads. After seeing those drawings, I am even more convinced.

 

Don't forget to use the tractor seat....;-)

 

Hot Rod tractors are the cat's ass. Check out a Ford 8N with a Funk flathead conversion. Think 3x2 with Offy heads... Repo Funk kits are still sold. I've always thought one would be a big hit at a show, if you could figure out how to gear it to do 70 instead of the normal 12 mph top.

Steve

 

Those Funk conversions are the bitchinest. Now, the next thing to find would be a complete aluminum hood 9N! They made them, but they're SUPER rare. From what I hear, the glare off them were a little impractical for farming and that's why Hank stopped making them. If memory serves, they may have been Fergusons, but I'm a little rusty on that. If you're lucky enough to see one, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

The 9Ns were all grey, the 8Ns (or "redbellies" as we used to call them) were grey with red engine, trans, rear, etc. There just aren't that many 2Ns around, but you'lll see them every once in awhile.

The Ferguson grille was probably the neatest-it had slanted horizontal bars in each side of the grille, as opposed the Fords with the vertical bars. The 9Ns came with the single bead front tires, but they didn't steer too well. Also, the rears had connected treads, instead of the later 'broken' treads. The connected ones never gave very good traction and lots of guys filled them with fluid to add weight.

Also, the 9Ns had headlight options that used these really neat 'wing' fittings to attach the ballcup headlight to the side of the grille wing. I've always thought they'd make great headlight fittings for a hot rod. If you ever see them, you'll know what I mean.

 

Also, I've always thought that the 600, 800 and NAA (Golden Jubilee) grilles would always make good hot rod grilles. They have a bezel in the top of the grille that would be great for a headlight/spotlite or some such shit...

 

I thought i did good today after reading this I know I screwed up.A friend is scrapping his yard and today he call me to come and gets some parts for my 61 Bel Air that he had sat a side.walking through the gate there is 2 old tractors that his helper are working on.I don't know what they are or was.but they had 2 decent grill shells.looks like the old case in the pic with the bucket that didn't make the cut that was in this post but doesn't have the metal line going down the front.after asking what he was doing he told me they was going in the crusher.I told him I had to get the grill shells off.no time! ??out comes the torch.they were off in a few minutes.I was tickled to death to get em' the ol' lady thinks I'm nuts bringing them home but I got em.now for the bad.after looking at the bodies they had the grill then the hood then at the back of the hood right between where your legs would go was the gas tanks.the tank come back in a rounded point.I thought to myself that they would be cool as like the rear part of boat tail.one was real bad but the other was savable.I thought about taking it off but they already thought I was nuts for wanting the grill shells so like a goofball I left it alone.after seeing the pic of the one with the boattail I know I screwed up.after a few minutes the loader picked them up and in the crusher they went.stinks my yard is almost gone now,along with all the old iron that it carried every since I first started driving.I may be willing to set a hamber up with the worse of the two but give me some time ,want to think about it.not sure if I want to get rid of one of them or not.matter how many times I trip over em in the garage.

 

Yeah these are cool-definetly. But I am not sure the renderings are very realistic of the hood. Maybe they weren't intended to be and it maybe it goes without saying, but this would be more of a challenge that one might think. First, those old tractors are tiny. You sit on them and your feet straddle the transmission-outside the hood/cowl. The renderings indicate a wider hood/cowl than reality, but certainly a skilled tin man could make it work. The other part is height of the hood/cowl. Even sectioned down and dropped axles, etc. it seems to me the actual car would be taller and have less sleek proportions. I know I've seen some pretty low modifieds and such, but since they are wider, the impression is they are lower as well. Then there is the length of the hood. The renderings seem way longer than the tractor hoods I've seen. Again, a good tin man and the addition of a fabbed cowl would add length, but just another challenge along the way. Finally, I didn't even touch on the drivetrain, pedals, steering shaft, etc. Setting the cowl back far enough would help with much of this, but there would be many unforeseen issues that would come up, I'm sure. I would love to see someone build one, but perhaps for these reasons, no one has taken it on.

 

these were just a rough idea. sometimes i will get an idea i dont really have time to mess with, so i will do a quick sketch so that i wont forget. nothing is to scale. i sketched these laying on the couch watching tv a few years ago.

 

I think your tractor renderings are way cool.

bret

 

Here are some nice tractor prospects. Farmalls and Deere's are more plentiful, but these just look really neat.

Notice the Olivers had the sleek design with louvered side panels. Check out how the 60 has a leaned back grill.

I kind of like how the Allis Chalmers has a forward leaning grill.

I threw in a couple of Massey Ferguson's. One 59 and one 63.

 

Man, I love the concept and renderings. I wanna see it done and I know it can be done. I just got thinking about it more and figured it was beyond my capabilities. I was hoping to spark a discussion about how it COULD be done, not discourage anyone from trying.

 

Hey Comet, if you're wondering how these renderings can be made, here's the approach I would take if it came to my shop. The renderings are the most important part of this project because as the artist stated, they are not to scale. I would take a long time studying the drawings and see how I could keep the original flair of the tractor and still be able to tuck an engine, driver, and mechanicals into the artist's scale. Once I figured if this is feasible, I would ask the artist to draw up more sketches. I would preferably want views from all angles, but the most important ones would be top, side, front, and rear. From these pictures I would make a full size side view print, to go on the wall. The print would show all frame, engine, and suspension componets to scale, over which the sheetmetal lines are placed. This step allows a certain degree of body to frame mock-up and any clearance issues could be resolved. Once I'm happy with where I'm at, I then proceed to draw lines across the body, top to bottom, every so often and try to hit all of the spots where the metal shifts. These lines become "stations" and become cross sections of the car. Now I have height, and if I place lines on the top view at the same spots, I'll have my width. I then take these dimensions at each station and make a full size cutout in plywood or MDF. Then they are stood upright and spaced apart as in the drawing. Once they are securely fastened together they become the buck. The metal is then formed and periodically layed over the buck to check for shape. When done, you have your one off body. As I said earlier, those sketches are awesome and I wouldn't mind making a body if I ever get the time to do so.

 

Does anyone around the northern IL, eastern IA, southern WI, western IN, know where I could find a useable (doesnt have to be nice, but mostly there) Oliver grille? was thinking super maybe? Definitely split though.

 

How about that boattail track-tor with a Jaguar or Allison V-12 and Weber carbs? 12 pipes going in, and 12 out!

 

I seen this hotrod tractor yesterday, Hopped up flattie and lots of cool detail.

 

Cool concept, is anyone out there actually going to build one??

 

Sort of.

Jerry