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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by NealinCA, Jul 5, 2006.

  1. Ryan
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    Man... In 50 years some poor schmuck is going to buy that roller at some garage sale and wonder when in the hell Hurst made such a tool...

    VERY cool.
     
  2. snapper
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    Looking Good, I love it...

    **** Neal, looks like you win the next Tech week again*****
     
  3. bluebrian
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    I was just thinking about some tools I want.
    I might just have to go tackle this.
    I'll change the design a little to make it my own but its preety damn close to perfect.
     
  4. Gumpa
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    I got my HF flyer today and the wife said since there was a coupon for 15% off any one item that I could put it on the card. That makes it 85.00 plus tax. So on the 17th when I go to the VA Hospital for my appointment I can get it and I have everything but the Tractor Wheel here to do the same thing. I can't wait to build it. I think I like the idea of building it more than owning it. Well maybe not after it is done. LOL. Gumpa
     
  5. That looks great
    Its given my ideas for mine now
     
  6. happy hoppy
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    me too !

    I picked up one of these after the last post, but this one looks so much better.
    there is something about a "nice tool" that realy makes the job that much more fun.
    the HB roller looks crapy outta the box, yours looks vintage and well made.

    thanks,
    David
     
  7. That thing is really really neat..

    nice engineering job..i like the turn wheel instead of the bolt...

    tok
     
  8. chopnchaneled
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    looks great. whats the weight of the base?
     
  9. NealinCA
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    I would have to guess 200+ lbs...it's a 2-1/2" thick chunk of cast iron.

    Neal
     
  10. bobx
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    excellent post. thanks.
     
  11. oldcarfart
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    SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET! Nice Job!!!!!!!!




     
  12. general gow
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    super cool. i will copy this for sure. thanks.
     
  13. louvers
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    Thanks for taking the time to produce things right. I see so many, get in such
    a hurry. Then they wonder why what they made doesn't work right. That old
    saying; "no time to make it right, but time to make it over"., should be on
    every shop wall.
     
  14. attitudor
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    Very motivating work, just take what you have and add some talent + imagination = Functional piece of art! [​IMG]

    --mika
     
  15. Gumpa
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    After a few pit falls I was able to get my HF bead roller today so tomorrow I am going to start making it look like yours. I can't wait for it to be done. I really need to get the floor of the Dodge done so I can take the body off the frame and get the frame all cleaned up and the new suspension under it. Gumpa
     
  16. NealinCA
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    Cool...post some pics when you get it done. I would like to see someone else's take on this.

    Neal
     
  17. scootermcrad
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    Now THAT'S awesome!! Very nice work!! I'm trully inspired!!
     
  18. Ought to post a close-up of the adjuster, I missed it too at first.
     
  19. Probably take some doing, the long shafts would nee to be lengthend too...but not impossible.
     
  20. Winterbear
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    couldn'tyou just cut out the throat to the existing length of the shafts that way you gain 1-2" without a whole lot more work?
    chris
     
  21. I think you may be right, you'd have to stiffen it up on the other side of the gears, though. I'm gonna look at mine when I get home.
     
  22. Mr. Creosote
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    Your bead roller is awsome!!! I can only aspire to be able to do that kind of work. Great job. I was hoping to see more presses. I have monkeyd so many things apart and together with just my vice and ballpeen hammer. I really want a press. Plus I thought it would be a good tech thread to see the things people have fabricated to get things done. The spring bender is a great example. Simple and effective. Thanks everyone
     
  23. sweet roller.I'm almost looking forward to winter so I have the time to redo mine!
     
  24. Darren M.
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    As everyone else has said, looks awesome!
    A couple of questions about the actual fabrication.
    Based upon the pictures can I assume your plate was cut w/ the Ox/Ac torch in the picture?
    When welding the plates together did you bevel the plate and roller plate for the butt weld? Looks like this weld is continuous and on both sides, is that right?
    When welding the flat stock around the edge did you stitch weld that or is it continuous? On both sides?
    Lastly, I'm assuming all of this was done with the Lincoln welder? What rod?

    Again, great looking project. I'm so embarassed by the cobble done on my HF roller I barely even let people look at it in the garage, much less on the net. I see myself buying some 3/8" sheet in the near future and cutting a new plate. :D

    Thanks!
     
  25. NealinCA
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    Yes

    Yes, both plates were beveled and then stitch welded (1-1/2 to 2"), flipping side to side, end to end. Then ground flush.

    It was tacked both sides, short weld every 2-3 inches, then welded complete. I would run a full rod on one side, then flip over and do the same on the other. Back and forth until it was done.

    Tacked with 1/8" 6011, final welded 1/8" 7014.

    Hope that helps.

    Neal
     
  26. Darren M.
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    It really does. Thank you!
     
  27. Neal, how well do you find that the HF roller works?

    Is it consistent, now that you've strengthened it?

    Are the different wheels useful profiles?

    Is the throat depth too little...or even too much?

    Reason I ask is 'cos obviously I'm thinking of grabbing a couple (one for me and another for a mate) to do floor panels with.
     
  28. 57JoeFoMoPar
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    This thread should go straight to the Tech Archives. This is sick
     
  29. Flathead Youngin'
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    Yeah, I'd like to know how it functions too. Being that the roadster is mostly done (all fabrication), and as long as I don't drag a coupe body home, I really want to build some tools; bead roller first, axle dropping jig next then maybe a english wheel.....good winter time stuff.......fire up the ole' coal stove on cold, snowy, Saturday morning and just build some stuff like this.........on the cheap!

     
  30. NealinCA
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    Here is the adjuster. I just welded a stub shaft on the head of the HF adjuster bolt and then attched the handwheel with a set screw.

    [​IMG]

    I havn't used it much...I have been busy doing other things this year.

    I did do one little project this last weekend...it was one of the reasons I bought the bead roller in the first place. The stake pockets on the bed of my 32 need some help...

    [​IMG]

    I cut the lower portion off and formed a new piece.

    [​IMG]

    Now I just need to weld it in place.

    [​IMG]

    What I did find doing this little project is that two people make the job a whole bunch easier. I had my 7 year old son run the wheel...he was a huge help. The other thing I confirmed (a friend had already suggested this) is that I need to put the female dies in the lathe and radius the sharp edges. You can probably see in the pic that it left a little ridge on the edge on the bead. It will sand off, but it would be nicer with a smooth radius on the dies.

    Otherwise it seems to work well. I didn't notice any flexing. and this was a pretty deep bead in 18 ga.

    Hope that helps.

    Neal
     

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