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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by NealinCA, Jul 5, 2006.

  1. elcornus
    Joined: Apr 8, 2005
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    WOW Neal!

    This thing looks incredible, like it was built back in the day, when tools were STOUT.

    I have a question, how well does the adjuster work with (what I'm assuming is) the course threads on the adj. bolt?

    What I'm curious about, is if the adj. is slow/fine enough to control accuratlly, if you wanted to put in a gradually deepening bead?

    Does that make sense?



    Eric
     
  2. NealinCA
    Joined: Dec 12, 2001
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    The coarse thread seems to work fine. The bead on the stake pocket is slightly tapered.

    I had a friend, Mark Nelson from Santa Cruz, lay some stripes on the frame last weekend...

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    Sorry about the poor lighting.

    Neal
     
  3. Darren M.
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    Nice. Just when I thought it couldn't get better. That looks awesome.
     
  4. Darren M.
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    One last question. How did you determine how tall you needed it? I'm getting to the point where I'm fabbing up the height of the base and believe my "comfort zone" is at 41" (I'm 5' 10' on a good day.) I guess the real question is "What's the ideal height of the stock feed?"
    Thanks again,
     
  5. NealinCA
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    I clamped the frame in a vice and played with it until it felt "right". I'm 6'2" and I ended up with a 48" centerline on the rollers.

    Neal
     
  6. zman
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    from Garner, NC

    Looks like you're putting it to good use... very nice patch panel... I really want a bead roller before I fab the floor pans for my roadster...
     
  7. Darren M.
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  8. Whoa Darren, That motor drive is on time, what is it? :confused:
     
  9. Darren M.
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    DBruce, I didn't want to hi-jack Neal's thread. However, as I have the image link immediately available click here for it. If you have any other questions feel free to shoot me a PM or click on the link above the pics for the build up. I tried to document as much as possible and you don't have to register to view the pics. I'd be MORE than happy to answer any questions, just PM them to me. ;)

    Thanks again Neal!
     
  10. MercMan1951
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    Linkee no workee...just get a shot of a Dayton motor tag.
     
  11. Darren M.
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    That shot is the answer to DBruce's question. (Assuming his question was What is the model number and specs on that motor?)

    It's a shot of the Dayton Motor Tag. However, for clarity, it's a Dayton 2z797a. A very old motor, circa 1973? This model from Grainger, McMaster-Carr, Dayton, etc is defunct. (I got it in a swap for some computer stuff I had.) However, Dayton has some updated models that will do the same thing. I'd suggest taking down the model number above and checking out McMaster-Carr.com and running a search for the term "electric motor". If you like that exact model act as if you're trying to replace it and see what the newest model is. Be advised I had to get the chain drive gear separately and honestly pieced the entire drive system up piece by piece. One gear and chain from Tractor Supply, of all places. Chain tensioner (the white thing riding the chain) from McMaster-Carr, upper gear from Grainger, etc etc. Not pictured is a motor starter/relay which is housed underneath in the hub cavity. Also hard to see is a reversing switch, a 120v SPST switch that sits atop the main power switch/AC outlet box allowing me to easily reverse the bead.
     
  12. The link worked for me, it only showed the Dayton motor.
     
  13. Darren M.
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    On a side note, after a couple of PM's. While I SUCK at the paint the picture where the tool is looking to the right, ---->, there is some square stock used as support that is skewing the image of the flames.
    Here's a shot of the roller in primer and the support stock.
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  14. NealinCA
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    Glad to see someone got inspiration from this post. Looks good Darren!

    Neal
     
  15. HHRdave
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    NICE!!! As my brother would say: "that's the Hot Rod way..."
     
  16. Darren M.
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    Thanks Neal. I'm not NEARLY to the point of fit and finish as you are but it was fun and a good practice. I can see MANY repaints in the future. :D As of now, it's being put to good use and I have to admit, it DOES NOT WALK! Even on 16 guage. I haven't tried 14 yet but I will. Great fun, great fun. :D
     
  17. mcload
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    Well, as usual, I'm late to this party....but what a cool tool. Even though I don't have a need for one (yet), I'd like to build it just as a project. But I'm pissed....all I have is one of those 110 V wire feed welders that I can barely get to tack weld two bobby pins, much less REAL metal. I yearn for a big Miller stick welder and 220v in my garage.

    Great job Neal!
     
  18. SinisterCustom
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    I used a 110v welder when making mine.....worked fine.
    Mine's a copy of Paul's....:D
    I think I'll finally paint and pinstripe it this weekend, after getting the old wheel I found for it mounted.
     

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  19. fordcragar
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    from Yakima WA.

    Put a gear motor on it.
     
  20. murfman
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    I did not make mine all purdy, with flames or pinstripes, but its Hella Stout

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    Dayton Gearmotor, the adjusting wheel is from a railroad hopper car hatch, the 2x2 is 1/4" wall, and the top, bottom, and back plates are 1/2" x 6" There is a 2x2 leg coming off the bottom the fits into a vertical reciever on the side of my work bench, I also have one on my forkift, so I can work outside when its nice. The switch on top is a direction switch, and I have a foot switch to run it. The heaviest I've rolled with it so far is 14Ga stainless with no deflection, slowed the motor down some, but that was pretty extreme anyway. Works great on 14 -16 Ga Mild steel.
     
  21. Nice work murfman, stout or sure!
     
  22. 1 foot in the grave
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    This thread is old i know. Heres my new bead roller. The kit came from Woodward Fab. I mad the frame out of junk that i had laying around. The base is a spare from a '59 Mopar. (actually from the 50's) The steering wheel came from an early 50's city bus, with a model A hubcap in the center, the large diameter makes rolling beads almost effortless. And a glass doorknob adjuster for a little klass. I made the base adjustable for height. The rest is just junk tubing and stuff that we had laying around. I like it.:cool:
     

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  23. That is all right! I still haven't made one.........:eek:
     
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  24. Paul
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    cool, I dig the bus wheel
     
  25. 49ratfink
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    from California

    that's really cool. your tire looks like the original spare in the trunk of my 61 Dodge, except mine is not a wide white. has those same lines on the sidewall though
     
  26. 1 foot in the grave
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    They are goodyear custom super cushions, they still make them. (Goodyear antique tire.)
     
  27. That looks bloody awesome!!!
     
  28. lionel
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    from dallas, tx

    Hello,

    I am taking a closer look at your bead roller and it looks like you have a 3/4" mandrel. If so, could you tell me where can I find one? Thanks, Lionel
     
  29. SinisterCustom
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    Mine with paint, pinstriped and an old wheel off some kind of farm implement.

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