nobody here has the balls to run something like a 2jz gte in a 'traditional' hot rod. too many follow the 'it's gotta have a hemi, flathead, or some other old dinosaur of a motor to be a hot rod' train of thought. i guess it's got to be obsolete and old to be cool but whatever... that's 'traditional'. and just to keep it ot, nice car.
yup i seen that it was out of a limo or something you would have sworn it was a old 392 at first look ..
Current Nascar engines are "formula",otherwords built to a strict set of rules.Toyota's engine is built by Toyota racing the California and has nothing to do with any current or past production engine..It's does resemble the other engines from Chevy,Ford,Dodge and again, none of these engines have anything to do with real production engines.Toyota's Nascar engine has the same potential for power as the others,no worse or better. I'm thinking a Nascar Cup engine goes for about 80 grand complete and ready to run?And that engine has absolutely no low end power.
I got a friend with a Isuzu diesel powered 32 Vicky (glass) sweet little ride kinda street rod looking and 30+ MPG on the highway in OD. Freaks people out at shows when they hear it drive by!
Carps, did a write up on the Toyota Hemis (V8) quite a few years back, don't remember if it was here or on the old RRT, seem to remember they were on the Crown series cars. Maybe he still has it stowed away on some file was really informative.
That little "Yoda" Hemi (R) is sweet! I remember a track T out of Tulsa that ran one, Is that a picture of that car?
That is in fact the same car. It was built by John Robbins, and then later sold to someone in the Dallas area.
Me too! Always good to see some folks keeping the true spirit of hot rodding alive with open minds and imagination. Use whatever you think will deliver what YOU want in your car, be it looks, performance, reliability or any combination.
The Toyota Hemi V8 was produced from the early sixties until the late nineties when it was replaced by the quad cam V8 and a similar V12. The early engines had cast iron blocks and the later ones are all aluminium. They can be found in Crowns and Century Limosines. Whilst not common they are not yet impossible to find and can be modified using Chev and Ford components or fabricated bits if you are clever enough. A mild version will whup a mild SBC or Ford on the strip and they use less fuel. With the right exhaust system thay also sound fantastic.
The Toyota NASCAR engines are not sold, but leased to the teams with a strict operational and rebilding regeime. They run a couple of events and are returned for inspection and rebuilding. That way the teams using them are ensured of reliability and performance.
Most of it is still in my head, there's also a chapter in Ron Ceridono's book 'The Complete Hemi' that tells the story. Considering some of the anti 'anything that's not what we think should be in a hot rod' sentiment and comments here I'm not sure it's worth the hassle of tellin' it agian.
If this is the type of car that classifies as a traditional Hot Rod, then you're in luck..... And the good news is that the powerplant in this little T coupe is almost everything on Beef Stew's list......... We've had this discussion sooooo many times before.. Traditional is using whatever you have, new old unique or rare. The stuff that was used to build the hot rods we now revere, was pretty much all new when the old guys were doing it. Hell in 1948 a Deuce roadster was only a 20 year old used car. And how did all those old Bonneville records get set, not by using old technology and equipment, but by the guys who tried something new, went outside the box and used what they could find to make their existing equipment go better. By all means build a replica of an old hot rod, I love 'em too. Or build a hot rod using what you can find and a little of your own imagination rather than what others tell you is cool. Either way it's still a hot rod and for my money the car built with imagination and oddball parts is more a hot rod that the one built from a bunch of restored old parts that are the samme as everybody else's restored old parts. End of rant.
True but as a new member to this forum I see that this forum is just a reflection of those of (us?) who like Neat Old Stuff. I don't think anyone is arguing that old rodders used new parts to go fast and clearly anyone can put anything they like in their car as long as they are happy - they are the ones who have to drive it. I think that goes without saying but the H.A.M.B (from what I understand) is about people who like the old stuff hanging out together and discussing the old stuff. If someone wants to discuss collectible 80s Cabbage Patch Dolls it would be their choice but the H.A.M.B. would not be the place to do it. Does it mean we are anti-Barbie? No, we just like old style hot rods in here and not really interested in discussing Barbie dolls. I see a lot of this ("build what you want...it's your car") kind of conversation creeping into threads and I think it's a mute point. It's not about what you "can" do to your car. It's your car you can do what you want obviously. I think that stating that every time someone suggests that old is cool is like saying "The Universe Is Really Big" - it's kind of obvious. It's more about what H.A.M.B.ers do to THEIR cars. No one is really saying that anyone "shouldn't" do whatever they like but in here we like old stuff. I think that's cool and am happy that there is this focus. If I want to discuss glass cars and Toyota V8s I can do it any number of Street Rod sites and forums. I use to run a supercharged Lexus Quad Cam V8 in a sleeper car. It had about 375hp and revved to 7 grand and would sound AMAZING. It was a full alloy block and heads, 4 valves per cylinder, 6 bolt mains(!) fuel injected, supercharged and had a hot computer which I could plug into with my laptop and tune to death (which is what usually happened) and it was nice to have and play with and show people but... ...this old stuff has a unique buzz about it. It's not always about being the quickest or the fastest (though I'd like to see how rice power goes against my dual quad cammed up 425 Big Block Buick Nailhead!) it's about "Old Stuff Is Cool To Us". Personally and secretly I like all cool things and that includes all types of cars but when I'm in here I expect to see and discuss old style hot rods and you know what? I think it's kind of a relief knowing that I don't have to try to be the fastest or quickest on my block (though it would be neat).
what you say may be correct but it is possible to pick up a "retired" engine from toyota. there is one in this car: o/t car with toyota nascar motor btw that's a sweet t and i dig the power plant.
Looks like a race car to me, do you know for sure they purchased the engine outright? I have some pretty good contacts within the organisation and tried to get one for our sprint car. The deal was that they would only lease the engines and they had to go back to TRD USA at the prescribed intervalls.
it's a drift car and the motors come from ed pink. the car's in chile right now but it normally resides at my work. we're one of the car's major sponsors.
Plenty of Lexus quad cam V8 rods running around down here in NZ. With the hood down who cares... ps. Nice shot there Steve..
Yup and with a hot grey motor in my FJ plus three pedals pushrods and a caburettor for my '33, I am 100% clear on your point, but think maybe you've missed mine. Everything on that T coupe including the engine is long since obsolete. What it proves is you don't need to use all the 'prescibed' and as a result generally overpriced parts to build a neat trad styled Hot Rod. With a little scrounging and imagination it can be done very cheaply using 'other' stuff. Fact is the Tojo Hemi is pretty much as old as the Chrysler Hemi, looks the goods and delivers pretty good performance, so why not use one if you can find one? Look beyond the 'gotta have one of those' and it's amazing what can be built with previosly unloved/unpopular but cheap and plentiful parts. One of my favourite examples is Tom Branch's Studebaker powered Deuce. OK, studebaker powerplants may not be plentiful, but they are out there and cheaper than a nailhead or Hemi. Another is Scary Larry's Deuce Roadster, a picture of tradition provided the bonnet stays shut and is a totally reliable cross country driver, or at least it was last time I saw it. Both these cars and many more I could name fit perfectly my stated sentiment. Nuthin there even suggesting a Hot Rod must have a computerised quad cam or any other new fangled high tech gizmo.
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