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Technical Transverse or parallel leaf?

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by InstantT, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. InstantT
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    Rode in my pops' 36 with name brand parallel leafs and it definately is spongy and bottoms out. All in all it handles real well, though.
    Does anyone have photos of how they've adapted a later rear end to the buggy spring and wishbones in a full size car?
    Google brings up nil.
     
  2. InstantT
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    So I am leaning toward the parallel leaf kit, but no hard decision yet.

    I was perusing the threads om split and unsplit wishbones, and I was planning on running the bone unsplit with a TH350 trans. I was going to talk to CE about how this works and if there are any clearance issues, but I thought I'd stop here first to see if anyone has experience in this.

    It seems that splitting the bones is a somewhat needles exercise if the trans fits fine. Any thoughts?
     
  3. dirty old man
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    The bones were never intended to handle the entire torque of the engine. Only there to hold the axle square with the torque tube which transferred the forward or rearward thrust to the rest of the car where the knuckle socket on the torque tube mated with the ball on the back of the trans. If you try to use unreinforced wishbones on an open driveshaft rear end and trans, sooner or later you'll be doing it over with stronger parts.
     
  4. bobbytnm
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    Great info guys.
    I'm in the planning and collecting stages of building a 26 T RPU. I've been trying to decide what to do about rear suspension. I'll keep my eye on this thread

    Bobby
     
  5. InstantT
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    I should have specified that I switched topics and was talking about the front bones. Sorry for my mind.
     
  6. c-10 simplex
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    Just curious why the corvette had a transverse leaf in the rear for long time? You would have thought coil-overs would have been better/sooner etc. Does the latest corvette still have one? i wouldn't know as i'm not really into corvettes, but curious since the topic was brought up AND sorry for going off topic......a little...
     
  7. InstantT
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    Almost done with my parallel kit from TCI. If I had it to do over again, I would leave the buggy spring. I may change my mind after it's on the road.
    I really like the way my dad's 36 rides and sits with his TCI kit, but my car does NOT want to have the rear hangers in it for some reason.

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  8. Sheep Dip
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    I'll second this. My 40 coupe is sporting CE parallels with a 1971 V8 Mercury Comet 8" (perfect fit) and a CE sway bar. Rides like a dream.
     
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  9. InstantT
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    My dad's went in with no sweat. I'm not sure what the deal is with my hangers yet. It may be that I'm doing it with the body on and trying to rush. It may also be that my frame might be hinky.

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  10. Hank37
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    My 37 Ford has transverse springs front and rear , the ride is like a hot rod should be ! In the corners at speed i'll out handle my friends that have Mustang front suspension and parallel rear springs . All you need are the correct shocks setup for your spring rates. Learned this from my stock car racing days .
     
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  11. InstantT
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    My original idea was that I could change and modify stuff alot more and alot easier with the parallels. Sometimes my original ideas are dumb.
    But I did solve my rear spring hanger issue and it was self induced.
    Between this car and my f100, I've grown predisposed to blaming Ford for my drinking.

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  12. bobbytnm
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    A wise man once told me that "owning a Ford is like stepping on your own balls"
    ..........LOL...................I must be a masochist
     
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  13. My opinion is if your going to keep the banjo then stay with the transverse spring.
     
  14. bob b.
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    ch***is engineering kit in my 41 coupe with 9 in. love it now wanting to do it to my 34 pu. anyone have experience with that
     
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  15. Henry Ford said we use still use transverse springs for the same reason we still use round wheels...

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  16. InstantT
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    I went with the TCI kit. A buddy has it in his 35 truck and raved about it. He absolutely loves the ride and handling.
    My dad's is a TCI kit, also.
    I would say it went in OK. the directions were pretty vague and left out a bunch of info.
    It came with urethane rear bushings and I'm not sure how I feel about that.
    It looks like it's going to be too low. Just have to set up the spring pads and weld em on. I'll get some pics once that's done.

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  17. InstantT
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    [​IMG]
    I forgot to update that I got the spring pads welded up.
    [​IMG]
    And she's back on 4 wheels!

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  18. 55styleliner
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    I thought this was a Hot Rod forum not a restoration forum. It also took Henry until ‘39 to put juice brakes in his cars, so if hot rodding a ‘36 we should leave the mechanical brakes too?
     
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  19. gimpyshotrods
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    If you are traditional, you would have mechanical brakes.
     
  20. InstantT
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    I was really torn about pulling the tranverse out.
    My rationale: unless on your hands and knees, you won't know what's under a 39 sedan, but if I ever build a hot rod I now have a nice banjo and spring setup with juice brakes ready to go!

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  21. 55styleliner
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    Ah, no. First thing all hot rodders and even a good share of restoration guys do is ditch the mechanical brakes. Even Model A restorerers add juice brakes to their cars. I have not ever seen a hot rod with mechanical brakes, just would not work with dropped axles and split bones.
     
  22. gimpyshotrods
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    There are numerous dropped axle cars, with mechanical brakes, on this board.

    If you are building "to-period". You have to use parts that were on-hand, during the period your ride is from.

    A '24T, from 1936, would not have juice brakes.
     
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  23. InstantT
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    As a mechanic, this may be what draws me to the 60s style: well functioning parts.
    I love to SEE the super vintage stuff, but the physical limitations make me disinterested in building one.

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