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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 1fastmf, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. 1fastmf
    Joined: Nov 6, 2013
    Posts: 11

    1fastmf
    Member
    from Georgia

    Been doing a lot of reading on here, some amazing work, which has me questioning whether I should even try to do my own. Main interest is Model A trucks, and 32 - 34 3-window coupes or trucks.

    Here are my skills:
    Been doing my own work on cars since I was 16, I'm almost 50 now. The biggest jobs I've done is head gaskets, clutches, and changed a cam once.

    I have a Hobart 110 V MIG welder (with gas). Compared to everyone on this board, I am a slightly past the beginner stage.

    I am an very detailed oriented.

    Here's the skills I don't have:
    Metal working of just about any kind.
    Never painted a car, but I think I could do a decent job, but I have no place to do it.

    I don't know anyone personally that does the kind of work that I see here. I was originally thinking of a new frame and fiberglass body, and building that. I'm now more leaning towards buying a mostly finished A-model truck since they are more affordable than the '32 - '34, and build it to suit me.

    Opinions?
     
  2. Doing it is how you learn. Its not supposed to be perfect, its supposed to be fun. Who knows, you might be really good at it. You won't know until you give it a go.What have you got to lose? Its just an old truck, if you mess it up, sell it and buy one already done.
    A good way is to buy someone's stalled project. Usually, they are sold at less than the amount invested in them.
     
  3. Jump right in.... That's how I do it!
     
  4. jesse1980
    Joined: Aug 25, 2010
    Posts: 1,355

    jesse1980
    Member

    Don't know unless you try. It's like the lotto, can't win if you don't play.
     
  5. Choff
    Joined: Sep 15, 2009
    Posts: 184

    Choff
    Member

    Read and ask questions, follow Hamb, and then get in the garage and make mistakes, then do it over better again!!!

    We learn from doing.

    And then have fun with your project!!!
     
  6. Where are you in GA- there are lots of helpful HAMBers down here :)!
     
  7. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 59,180

    squirrel
    Member

    That sounds like a good plan. but take your time and get a truck that was build right, so you don't have to redo everything. Of course that's hard to figure out without help....posting pictures of stuff you're thinking of buying will help.
     
  8. jesse1980
    Joined: Aug 25, 2010
    Posts: 1,355

    jesse1980
    Member

    I used to spend 20 bucks at the local steel supplier here by me on the left over scraps from their big projects and practice on that steel. Pieces left over from the big sheers and shit like that. I learned a lot. Just don't start learning how to weld and fab metal on the car your working on.
     
  9. As Don pointed out,you learn as you go.

    I have built a lot of cars over the years but I was older than you when I took on the most ambitious project.

    I had do very little metal work but it's not that hard to do,if you screw up a panel just start over,it's a learning experience and it's suppose to be enjoyable.

    Buying a stalled project is always a good idea. HRP
     
  10. VoodooTwin
    Joined: Jul 13, 2011
    Posts: 3,453

    VoodooTwin
    Member
    from Noo Yawk

  11. Weedburner 40
    Joined: Jan 26, 2006
    Posts: 1,086

    Weedburner 40
    Member

    As jesse1980 said, get some scrap and practice your welding skills. Visit a local body shop and see what they have that is throw away and get it to practice some sheet metal work, just try to get something from an older vehicle, the new stuff is way to thin and a lot of it is high stressed steel that isn't really workable. After that, plug away at what ever project you choose. Lake everyone says, if you mess it up, just try again, and make sure to HAVE FUN!
     
  12. fiat gasser
    Joined: Sep 5, 2008
    Posts: 1,608

    fiat gasser
    Member

    When I bought my project I really was in the same situation you are. I had limited experience. Heck I didn't even know how to weld. Now I am fabricating my own parts and not having to pay someone to do the work for me and I've learned a lot in the process. There is a great knowledge base hear and in most cases people are willing to help you figure out any problems you might run into. Good luck and go for it. If you don't do it, you will always wonder if you could have.
     
  13. It very rewarding to build your own Hot Rod. Take your time, keep reading. Then try to do it yourself.
     
  14. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
    Posts: 18,243

    Squablow
    Member

    This is my advice too. Try to find something that's complete that just needs to be worked over. There are some good deals out there on tacky, dated 1980's era builds that have good bones underneath but need a once-over. You just want to make sure you don't buy a hack job, which sometimes means more work than starting from scratch.

    Fiberglass bodies and new frames are a ton of work, you're still building the whole suspension and drivetrain from scratch, and depending on what body you buy, you still are building a floor and sometimes installing all the body supports and such, plus paint, which is a ton of work to go through to end up with a fiberglass car with no title.
     
  15. tommy
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 14,757

    tommy
    Member Emeritus

    Just go in with lower expectations. I'd start with a project that just needs a power plant. A marathoner first needed to learn how to walk. Remember it's a fatal disease. Once you catch it. you will probably die with it.:D
     
  16. Mike51Merc
    Joined: Dec 5, 2008
    Posts: 3,855

    Mike51Merc
    Member

    Some skills come naturally, some with a lot of practice, and some never at all.

    I have a friend who is a skilled mechanic who freezes in his tracks when it comes to electrical stuff.

    My own weakness is body work. Heck, I can't even properly spackle a wall in a house.

    You'll never know until you try. Do what you can and hire out what you can't. Just don't dive into the deep end until you've proven you can do a few laps around the pool.
     
  17. ChefMike
    Joined: Dec 16, 2011
    Posts: 647

    ChefMike
    Member

    I agree with 56Don its all about the fun! heck Im a chef and never ever thought I could do this but Im up to my neck and having a great time doing things two or three times till I get it right! I was 50 when I started now 53 and all I can tell you is that its like a bandaid just have to rip it off. you will be fine just do it cause there is alot of guys on here that could just buy one allready done! but where is the fun in that go get dirty!!
     
  18. How tall/big are you? Model A trucks can be a tight fit for some.
     
  19. FenixSpeedShop
    Joined: Mar 19, 2013
    Posts: 202

    FenixSpeedShop
    Member

    I will agree with the comments on here, just go for it. Learn as you go and there's a wealth of information and help from folks here on the HAMB and elsewhere.


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  20. chop777
    Joined: Feb 3, 2014
    Posts: 138

    chop777

    You should absolutely build your own
    Remember the welder makes metal bigger the sawzall makes metal smaller
    Right tighty lefty losey
    All the rest you need can be answered right here
    -chop
    Ps use bolts for some stuff as well

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  21. woodiewagon46
    Joined: Mar 14, 2013
    Posts: 2,470

    woodiewagon46
    Member
    from New York

    Yes, keep it simple at first, and if you are not sure about something ask! I almost like building over driving. I go out to the garage, radio on country western, light up a cigar and I am in heaven. A little bit today a little tomorrow and before you know it your on the road! It's like going to a shrink without spending hundreds for BS answers!
     
  22. 1fastmf,
    I don't know you at all so my encouragement may be wasted but I am going to say what I am going to say anyway.

    If you stay traditional and don't try to go to extreme you will be fine. you may not have a show stopper but you can build a car simply that is every bit as good as anything anyone you went to high school with.

    I would probably not try and build a show stopper, just build yourself a beater. drive it see what you have done wrong or what you would change and chanbge it from one season to ther next while you are acquiring the skills.

    Make it fun and don't get too caught up in the 21st century BS that is common place now and never existed back when these cars were first popular. You'll no doubt be fine.
     
  23. If you want to do it then do it. Don't be afraid to take the chance, or you may regret it later on or think to your self, I wonder what if I had...... Nothing ventured nothing gained. Building hotrods, racing and driving them is one of the best things I have ever been involved with!!!
     
  24. flatnasty
    Joined: Apr 16, 2010
    Posts: 305

    flatnasty
    Member
    from Vancouver

    Get in there!

    4 1/2" angle grinder, welder,some basic hand tools, common sence and some perserverance is all you need. Everyone should have that! Looks like a green lite to me.

    Good luck

    Brad
     
  25. You have the best support system imaginable right here.
    That is why the HAMB rules!

    Dive in, post pictures, have fun.
     
  26. summersshow
    Joined: Mar 3, 2013
    Posts: 899

    summersshow
    Member
    from NC

    Do it... If you mess up than you now how not to do it... So than you take it apart and do it again...

    Knowledge; Knowing how to do something right... Wisdom; Knowing how not to do something... Wisdom is much better than knowledge
     
  27. MAD 034
    Joined: Aug 30, 2011
    Posts: 775

    MAD 034
    Member
    from Washington

    As many have already said -- what have you got to lose by giving it a shot? Its just a bunch of metal bent into funny shapes anyway!
     
  28. JYPSEA
    Joined: Dec 11, 2007
    Posts: 193

    JYPSEA
    Member
    from Florida

    What he said.
     
  29. falconsprint63
    Joined: May 17, 2007
    Posts: 2,358

    falconsprint63
    Member
    from Mayberry

    I say go for it too. you might look at the local community college lots of them offer all manner of auto classes. several hot rodders I know here locally do the college classes just to have access to the resource (tools and paint booth specifically).
     
  30. Bugsy
    Joined: Dec 27, 2008
    Posts: 1,302

    Bugsy
    Member
    from Kansas

    Like everyone else...I say do it. You do learn a lot as you go. Break a project down into small, individual projects. That keeps you from getting overwhelmed and you can focus on one skill set at a time. This place is an unreal wealth of ability and knowledge so take advantage of it. Just about any problem you run into, someone else has had too. If you don't already, get some car friends that are like minded. You can learn a lot just by hanging out in a friend's garage and watching.

    Jump in and have fun! You will be amazed at what you can do and what you will learn to do!!!
     

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