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Technical Tuck Goes Sand Casting!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ryan, Mar 11, 2024.

  1. Sandcrab
    Joined: Jul 25, 2022
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    Sandcrab

    Ryan, I posted up in Tuck's thread by mistake, it was meant for here.
     
  2. treb11
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    Silent Rick:
    i still don't get intake manifolds and valve covers, how do you create the voids?

    A "core" is used to form interior voids. think of a pipe. the mold makes the outside and a round core is placed in the mold to form the negative space that will be the inside of the pipe. each end of the core registers on spots in the mold to keep it oriented. (remember "core shift" when checking your block for boring?) The molten metal flows around the interior core because its melting point is higher than the metal. Once the metal solidifies, the core sand is knocked out, leaving the interior. The interior can be as complicated as the core can be formed. "freeze plug" holes are actually where the water jacket cores are supported in the mold.
     
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  3. Tuck
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    I made some tools last night just to make things smoother- but one of the tools I think works awesome is an apple corer- the kind you push through and then it has a plunger-
    I use it to cut all my risers and then use the plunger to push the sand out. You can get them at the dollar store!

    I need to get a steel bucket for dross, I knock it on my bricks too.
     
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  4. Tuck
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    @Ryan can you move his post, it’s a good one-? He posted in my truck thread- (I tried too but couldn’t figure out how to get it here)
     
  5. Moriarity
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    here is a copy and paste....

    Sandcrab

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    I put this in the wrong thread, sorry.
    Tuck very nice work. Those larger castings are a challenge.

    I have been casting for 25 years. I started with the Gingery Furnace and still run it although I have upgraded it so I can convert it to waste oil so I can pour cast iron. I started with smalls and still cast the baby Moon pedal, but recently poured the T5 to 215 buick spacer.
    It is a deep dive, but check out http://www.forums.thehomefoundry.org/ there is a lot of information and some talented foundrymen.
    This is the 1/3 scale smallblock in my avatar.
    [​IMG]

    This is an OT coolant fitting that I did as an experiment for one of the members using the lost foam process. He has gone on to produce absolutely unbelievable multi carb manifolds. [​IMG]

    The left hand piece is aluminum and I didn't cast the second more detailed sample since the method was proven.

    And then last week I poured the spacer plate.
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  6. Sandcrab
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    Sandcrab

    Thanks Moriarity.
    Ryan, if you go to the HomeFoundry site and scroll down to "Links to useful information", there is a sticky for Foundry 101. Some of the shortcuts have been lost, but if you scroll down to Mach's Sep 14, 2021 post there is a good link.
     
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  7. fourspd2quad
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    Here are a couple to tools that I use to handle the crucibles. One to take the crucible out of the open top kiln and another to handle the pouring.
    IMG_4757.jpeg IMG_4756.jpeg IMG_4758.jpeg IMG_4759.jpeg
     
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  8. Ziggster
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  9. Darbyogill
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    I went through the process of building a muller, then a foundry furnace, and flasks, and patterns, and molding sundries, and then I discovered lost foam casting, and haven't made a green sand part since. Y T guru Kelley Cofield (sp.?) Shows how to do simple to very complex castings with few materials and tools, or stuff made with more high tech tools such as cnc routers. You make the exact part you want out of plastic foam, coat it with a slurry of drywall cement and water,let it dry, bury it in plain dry sand (vibrating the container while adding the sand) , pour the aluminum into the foam pattern, and like magic the aluminum takes the place of the foam, and you have your part! I've cast many finned aluminum parts including valve covers, air cleaners, etc. With mostly great results.
     
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  10. patsurf
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    pics!
     
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  11. zman
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    Tuck is a ruler. Despite being in Kanada
     
  12. I built a bucket / charcoal furnace years ago, got as far as making ingots, started a batch of green sand, and a temporary 2 x 4 flask, and then stalled. been thinking lots lately about dragging all that stuff back out and seeing if I can't get an actual part made
     
  13. Beanscoot
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    He's up here in Kanada?
    I thought he was in Minnesota.
     
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  14. Acres
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    Hmm a finned alu valvecover for the Buick wouldnt look wrong.
     
  15. zman
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    It's an old HAMB joke.
     
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  16. ROADSTER1927
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    I have this little race car mold. Any advice on poring aluminum in it and see what I get? Thanks, Gary 20240326_152634_resized.jpg 20240326_152640_resized (1).jpg 20240326_152640_resized.jpg 20240326_152708_resized.jpg 20240326_152721_resized (1).jpg
     
  17. Sandcrab
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    Sandcrab

    Neat. Looks like a tether car body.
    What is the mold made from, cast iron or steel?
    I made a permanent piston mold for my small engine out of cast iron and had excellent results by coating it with motor oil. I poured hot and got good results after the mold stabilized at about 500F.
    I would start by pre heating with a torch to insure there is no moisture, spray a little oil on it and then give it a try. It would be good to know the volume so it isn't poured short. It looks like it has plenty of vents.
     
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  18. ROADSTER1927
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    I believe it is steel Thanks for the info, Gary
     
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  19. Hahaha. I bought some dies from Tuck in the past. He had them listed on eBay. He had or make offer listed. So I made an offer and I was waiting to hear back. And then I sent him another text and said, "I figured out who you are, you are Tuck from the HAMB." He sent me back a reply that had his phone number and said, "Call me "
    When I was talking to him on the phone, I felt all giddy inside like I was talking to a rock star.

    Actually I was!!!
     
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  20. When I was building my roadster I went on the hunt for some 36 windscreen posts (unobtainium or very expensive at the time, no repros available), and saw a night school class for metal casting. I signed up, and learned the basics, making patterns, mixing sand, etc, , and we were asked to bring in something which we would like to cast as a project. I borrowed a pair and cast them, a couple in brass ( "gunmetal" actually) and a couple in cast iron. I felt a lot better chopping down some I made than a genuine set. At the time I was working for a uni, and they were throwing out all of their casting equipment (because it's all done "on line" now, and it's safer!!!!) so I grabbed copes, scoops, bentonite, all I could get my hands on. This was set up at my bro's place, he made a propane fuelled furnace using a 20 litre drum. We cast a bunch of club plaques, and other small bits. When you break open the steaming sand to reveal the prize. it's like opening a christmas present!
     
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  21. There is excellent info in this thread. Keep the information coming.
     
  22. Jacksmith
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  23. Fortunateson
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    When casting perhaps “coolest” is not the most appropriate word to use...LOL
     

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