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Tucks and Rolls and Rolls and Pleats and a small panel

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by gillgonzalez, Jun 19, 2009.

  1. cretin
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    That looks great! Thanks for posting. With tech like this I just might try to tackle my own interior.
     
  2. skipstitch
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    All of my "work" t-shirts have a table line...LOL!
     
  3. Johnny1290
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    That is an *amazing* post. Thanks much and the pics are awesome!

    Funny, I was just at the fabric store today and couldn't find any welt cord to match my vinyl, so I was like what do the pros do?!? They must make it themself! So I bought a package that didn't match just to steal the cord out of it...now I see your article and indeed that's what people do...cool! At least I'm on the right track a little.

    Hey how long did it take you to make that, if you weren't taking pictures?
     
  4. Mr 42
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  5. Speedy Muertito
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    Very cool. tutorial with pictures!
    Thanks for posting this. This will be seen for ages and keep the this art/skill alive.

    Gives me more courage to try some of this myself.

    Thank you!
     
  6. gillgonzalez
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    Well, the kids are home from school for summer vacation so after breaking up 2 fights over whos had more computer time to play online games id guess 3-4 hours. BTW after the first fight i made my oldest take the pics. However its a fake panel. Door panel design, fab and upholster are much more time consuming.


    Wow thats alot of work! Gives a different look- more nostalagic.
     
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  7. brady1929
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    this is awesome. saving to my favorites.
     
  8. SapienKustom
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    Great thread. You make it look so easy. I'd really like to try this. Thanks
     
  9. Koz
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    Cool tech man. I was wondering if you have a mail order source for the scrim and cord. It looks like much better stuff than I usually get.
     
  10. gillgonzalez
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    http://www.duboisfabrics.com/
     
  11. ThirdGen
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    thanks for thorough step by step! very insightful!
     
  12. pimpin paint
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    Hey,

    A major plus, here on the HAMB!

    Is leather any harder to work with than vinyl? I've had covers sewn where they have had "baggy" corners and loose channels, I guess it's all about knowing how to cut, sew & pull the panels.........that and years of experience!

    S****ey Devils C.C.
    "Spending A Nation Into Generational Debt Is Not An Act Of Comp***ion!"
     
  13. gillgonzalez
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    Leather is different to work with. You need to be more precise with your patterns. Harder? You just have to work with it a little differently, at least i do. But the final product souldnt have baggy corners and loose channels. Leather does however have scars and such that you need to work around.
    You can't fudge a corner then heat it up and pull like vinyl.
    Leather tucked and rolled.

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  14. jakesbackyard
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    Excellent!
     
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  15. Kustomkarma
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    Lot's of upholstery posts lately. I'm going to have to try this stuff out.
     
  16. axle
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    Question, i see you're using a Duran Duran sewing machine. Do you use "Planet Earth" piping? Also, can you make "Rio" or "Save a Prayer" pleats?
     
  17. Roupe
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    Good stuff. I need a sewing machine so I can play.
     
  18. rusty f100
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    correct me if im wrong but i thought that was a pinched pleat. tuck and roll rolls to one side or the other and does not really resemble a normal pleat. im fairly new in the upholstery business and the way i was taught, and the end result is different.
     
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  20. gillgonzalez
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    Of course, however i think those might be to advanced for the HAMB.

    Ill stick with "Ordinary World" and "Notorius". More modern styles but i think most can relate to those.

    BTW, you seem to know alot about DD??
    Did you happen to find a tooth?
     
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  21. gillgonzalez
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  22. jakesbackyard
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    Gill,

    I'd say your method of "tuck & roll" is probably the most common today. It definitely looks the best and is much faster than the other methods. And in an age where time is a lot of money, it's good for the customer as well. You do some nice s***chin'.

    I'm not sure why some get so caught up with "terminology" and don't just enjoy the great free lessons!

    Jake
     
  23. THR1LL3R
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  24. axle
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    Ha ha ha ha ha. Great work you do on upholstery man. Serious ! Hope to see ya soon !
     
  25. Wish I could do that, the caddy could use some new seats
     
  26. gillgonzalez
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    I didnt take it as negative. Just someone trying to figure it out. Im still confused by the terminology used in the industry. Its really our fault for not coming up with guidelines. I always see guys refering to tops***ched pleats as tuck n roll.

    Jake, i tried to checkout your tech on the suede site but cant see the pics? Do i need to register? Loved the diamonds tech.

    BTW check out this thrashing i got after a little tech in a magazine. Ill remove the guys name.

    Tuck and Roll, Rolls and Pleats? Its got the look.
     
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  27. jakesbackyard
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    WOW! I'd hate to run into that guy on the street.

    My interpretation of "genuine/true" tuck and roll is sewing the pockets and then stuffing them with "piping tins", but to be real/current it's the "look" that we're all really after and that can be done a few ways.

    When I started learning upholstery 35 or so years ago (still learning), the old trimmers were real reluctant to let any one know their "secrets". And look where it is today. It's really a dieing art form. There used to be 5 tech. schools that taught it in ND/MN and now there are none.

    Some friends have told me to start doing these kinds of threads so it doesn't get lost. I'll do it as I get a chance and you're doing a great job of it.

    You have to register on the Suedes site to see the pics. One of the threads is similar to this thread.

    Keep up the great work.

    Jake
     
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  28. gillgonzalez
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    Yeah! And stuff with animal hair! Then later cotton, then later polyfoam came along and channel foam. I admit it gives a totally different look. I really like the thick channel foam pleats.
    To me it usually looks lumpy when ive stuffed pleats, maybee i was doing it wrong. IVe even cut pieces of 1/4 foam and stuffed them inside of folded pleats. Not enough wow for the amount of work for me.

    I started 7 years ago and when i went to school the way i was taught was to mark the pleats on scrim foam, mark the pleats on the backside of the vinyl 1/2 in larger, fold the vinyl mark and sew a seam on top of the mark on the foam.



    Then i went to work in a shop, and the guys stood around and asked me if i was going to finish the panel by the end of the WEEK! As i sat there rolling up my huge sheet of foam under the machine.
     
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  29. merc-o-madness
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  30. Wow what a great thread.I have my own machine and have been some sort of reupholstry work as a hobby so to speak for quite a few years.I have never seem to learn enough about it and the older I get the more my interest is growing. Seeing TECHS like this one and some the things Jake has posted are a real inspiration and Help. I also admire the way both of you have handled the Hagglers.I personally will be looking forward to see more when you can get some time. By the way your older one did a fantastic job on the pictures.
     
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