What is traditional it is the ability to create something from nothing and if there were more readily available automotive turbos back in the day, guess what they would be used as they are today ! I am sure someone tried a turbo setup back in the day they sure used superchargers and nitrous oxide on war birds back in WWII, so the idea of boosting horsepower through forced induction is not " new". I plan on using turbos on my project and keeping the idea of tradition alive by using my hands and head to create something my Dad could have built from pieces found in a wrecking yard when he was young in the 30's and 40's . Tradition , in my opinion, is not the parts you use in a build but to use your ability to create a completed project that looks as if it could have been completed years ago . Tradition is what my Dad handed down to me in the skills I have to make all this happen . My Dad is gone now , 5years , but every time I create something either in wood or metal I just smile and know he is the one that handed down the tradition of hard work , combined with a creative soul!Thanks Dad . That is my small volume on tradition thanks for listening, Rob.
As Gotgas said "Never heard of the Mallicoat Bros?" They ran a turboed gasser in the mid 60s. How friggin traditional do you need? You've got to know where you've been if you want to know where you're going.
There is a big difference between a carbon sealed Turbo drawing its mixture in from a Holley or a blowing it into a vintage Hilborn injection setup, compared to a modern setup with EFI, intercoolers, blow off valves, etc...
Then I can show you my build. Twin Turbo '63 Pontiac Gasser, not traditional but Gasser styled. The pics show a mocked up single turbo but I have since traded that for a pair of twin TC76MM Turbonetics turbos, and will be building them into the car. The car is not traditional but a gasser inspired build. Home made back halfed to fit big tires in the rear. The front clip built for a '57 Chevy truck front beam axle. Firewall cut and the motor pushed back 10 inches with the steering wheel repositoned and the seat pushed back the same amount. I'm using a 1960 Pontiac 389 block but all forged internals. Forged Ohio Crank, Ross pistons GRP alumnum rods, 4 bolt splayed caps, KRE aluminum 325 cfm D-Port heads, and more. The twins along with twin air to water intercoolers going to either a single blow thru CSU 750 carb or I might try to run twin 750 carbs. Right now I have the single blow thru 750 on a Victor intake. I would love to try EFI if I could afford to run it. There were a lot of people out there playing with turbos back then. Some successfull, some not. But they were there. Mark L
Looks pretty cool Mark. But Please, if you're gonna do anything other than drag racing with it; add some more torsional bracing to the column support and drop.
Yes it is planned as I build the new dash, or use the old. Either way it will get some more support. I may even cut it back and leave it for the brake bracket only and build a whole new support. Not really happy with it anyways. Thanks for the concern though. It is much appreciated. Mark L
Last time I checked, the cut-off for the HAMB was '63. In '63, the Mallicoat car had a big ol' 6:71 on it. Someone doesnt know thier history...But then this IS the HAMB, where justification, history revision and bullshit know no bounds...
Woops! Missed traditional by a year. The Mallicoats put their turbos on over the winter of '64. So I guess turbos are very non trad.
Here is a link to info about a turbo Rambler engine setup to run Indy in 1967: http://www.wps.com/AMC/Navarro-turbo-motor/index.html .
Well, at least you recognize the error of your ways. The answer to ending this thread is real simple. Rather than everyone expressing thier opinion, heresay that they heard from a buddy, ect, ect, why dont the guys that are pumping turbos as traditional simply dig through thier magazine collections, and post the first pre 1963 photo you find of a hot rod with a turbocharger on it? And posting an early seventies photo of Napa Johns Model A and trying to pass it off as pre-'63 will be "outed" immediately.
We dont have to keep argueing about this, it has come up before... Seems to me we can post about the early Turbo Systems as used in the mid '60s, and ones that are inspired by those, here on the HAMB. The Hamb also has a Social Group for Turbo's and Nitrous Systems. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/group.php?groupid=716 And for more modern systems, there is the Digfight Forum. ( one of Ryan's other sites ) http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?2-The-DOGFIGHT-Forum
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