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Technical turn signals

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by wuga, Feb 14, 2024.

  1. seb fontana
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    inocous... Means you gonna forget anyways.:rolleyes:
     
  2. 36cab
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    My dad did not want to hang anything off of his steering column for turn signals. So he installed a three way toggle switch on the dash running through two adjustable industrial timers. It was a lot of effort and money for a man that I never saw use a turn signal in his life!
     
  3. 1971BB427
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    I have one of the aftermarket non canceling clamp on turn signals in my '37 Austin, and I'm always conscious about canceling it. I make a habit of turning it off as I begin making my turn, rather than waiting until after I complete my turn. Seems like it's less likely I'll forget if I do it this way.
    Hadn't thought about a beeper or audible signal as I'm not sure I want the hassle of wiring into my system to work off either side signals. I have indicators on my dash to let me see things blinking, and that works for me.
     
  4. Oneball
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    You can get automatically cancelling dash switches, either clockwork or vacuum.
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  5. Happydaze
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    I never got the memo about buzzers being uncool so I got me a replacement flasher with adjustable buzzer. Plugs in as a direct replacement and works fine. I don't enjoy the noise so it's never on long enough to bother me.

    Chris
     
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  6. d2_willys
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    Back in the 60's I built a little beeper circuit from a Popular Science magazine article. Back then the popular beepers of today were not available, so a small speaker was used with the circuit. Worked well.
     
  7. 57Fury440
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    My hearing is not what it used to be. About 5 or 6 years ago I asked my guy in the auto parts store I go to if they made loud flashers. He sold me one for my 57 and it worked. My signals do cancel but there is always that time when you change lanes and don't move the wheel enough to cancel.
     
  8. mohr hp
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    Sparton self cancelling switch as mentioned in posts 19 & 21. Uses a rubber wheel that rolls on the hub. No electronics, and usually cheap when you find them.
     
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  9. jazz1
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    Its a strategy to make sure ya’ll paying attention.
    I have no beepers even in my daily( i drilled a hole in beeper to kill it) That shit annoys me to no end…i also carry a NOCO battery pack cuz no beeper means i can accidentally leave my headlights on like i did yesterday for a few hours.
     
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  10. Shutter Speed
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    I stick with hand signals. They cancel when my arm gets tired. Usually pretty quick.
     
  11. BJR
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    If you did that in Minneapolis you get shot for showing gang symbols. :eek:
     
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  12. cal1320
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    The Autolamp 9000 is of similar design. I've been using them for 10+ years. Works great.
     
  13. wuga
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    This has been done using a signal switch from Speedway and an Advanced Turn Signal Module from Signal Dynamics
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    I have a fully functional self cancelling turn signal in my Model A using an after market stalk mounted unit.
    I first disassembled the turn signal unit and unsoldered all wires from the board except the yellow, green and black. I then cut the yellow, green and black at about 18", this is dependent on where you will mount the control module. I then cut all the wires to reach the control module location. I installed female bullet connectors on the 9 wires coming out of the control module and male bullet connectors on the yellow and green wires coming from the switch and all the wires that were cut back to reach the control module.
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    As you can see in the picture above, I ground the detents from the actuator arm to make this a momentary switch. The arm after depression, automatically returns to home position. If you tap the arm to full extent and immediately let it return, the signal will flash for 7 seconds, holding the arm in signal position for 2-4 seconds gives you a 20 second signal and pressing over 4 seconds gives you a 75 second signal, When the signal is flashing, hitting the signal arm one more time will cancel the signal, especially good on the 75 second signal.

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    The color coding on most turn signals is the same so it doesn't really matter whose turn signal unit you use.

    Here is a schematic built around the Advanced Turn Signal Module from Signal Dynamics

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    The module can be ordered online from Signal Dynamics for about $120. There are other units available from them, but this one seemed to cover all the bases. You will not have 4 way flashers with this install. These units are primarily manufactured for use on motorcycles using two momentary switches. This seems like a lot of talk, but it is a fairly straight forward install. Let me know if I need to do any edits. Hopefully no more on going signals frustrating other motorists.
    Warren
     
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  14. inthweedz
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    If it's an aftermarket, clamp on the column type, could you mount it with the arm sticking straight up when off??
    If so it would be easy to see (as in front of your line of sight) and you would be able to see if the arm was to the left, or right..
     
  15. dan c
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    in 1975, i bought my first shoebox ford, a field car that had belonged to a farmer in southern illinois. it had a turn signal switch like this one and worked great. he'd owned the car since 1954, and probably put the t-sig on it then. i'm sure they're still out there. only drawback is the wheel on the unit will leave a track on the steering wheel.
     
  16. The clamp on turn signal box I used in my 53 has a bright green light on the end of the lever that flashes when In use
     
  17. I put some Guide 904 "percolator" lens in the top of my '35 headlight buckets and I can see them out the windshield.
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  18. clem
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    I gave up on hand signals a long time ago and put indicators on. (turn signals to those in the USA).
    90% of people today don’t understand hand signals and other 10% just wave back to you…………:)
     
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  19. wuga
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    On the Model A hot rod, the turn signals are in the head light housing and on the banger the turn signals are in the tip of the horns. Can't see either. The little green lights on the turn signal don't mean much to me either other then the fact that I have left my signal on too long. I have been looking for the unit with the rubber wheel for over 2 years and haven't found a working one yet and also they don't really work with the Model A steering wheel. I remembered seeing the self cancelling dash switches on British sports cars back in the 60s but could not find them on recent searches. I just prefer that they shut off after use.
    Oneball, I'd appreciate if you could supply name of distributor or name or number of product.
    Warren
     
  20. GlassThamesDoug
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    Hand signals are self cancelling.... had to say it.
     
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  21. snoc653
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    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3919971069...=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=copy"https://www.ebay.com/itm/3919971069...=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY"

    Image search showed this in ebay. Didn’t see the other one right away.
     
  22. enjenjo
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    You can get 3/16" LED indicators in Green that will fit in a a small hole drilled in the gauge faceplate for turn signal indicators. They are nearly unnoticable unless they are on. There were other self canceling turn signals besides the Sparton. I'll have to dig through my junk and see what I find.
     
  23. Jacksmith
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    Try & remember to take your Prozac...
     
  24. winr
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    My 65 F100 has a round clamp on thing on the steering wheel ... it kicks the blinker thingie back to neutral after turnin a corner
     
  25. WashBear2
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    ‘50s British cars had a timer turn signal switch, mounted in the dash, worked like the timer fan/light switch in some bathrooms.
     
  26. Yet again you made me laugh.
    It definitely is "traditional".
     
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  27. A mechanical buss brand 552 is relatively loud.
    It used a bimetallic strip it would heat up then cool what you were hearing was the metal getting hot, you could actually bend the metal if you took the cover off and change how fast the turn signals blinked by bending the bimetallic strip.
    There is also one that is marketed as a loud turn signal flasher it's part number is lf12 i believe (it has been over 20 years since I worked selling car parts so pardon me if I got the part number wrong).
     
  28. Jacksmith
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  29. A Boner
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    A friend claims he drove the entire length of Iowa on I-80, with his left turn signal on!

    Just feel if the gap is equal where the lever exits the unit, every once and a while.
     

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