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underslung chevrolet (new project)

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by skottyknukkles, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. Twisted Minis
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    Looks good man.

    Convoluted bags are stiff by nature, especially Slam bags. Putting them in a leverage ratio softens them up.
     
  2. pasadenahotrod
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    You, sir, are so right. And what a tragedy to destroy a nice old car because of it. This is not an example of the old hotrodder's creed "Taking old cars and making them BETTER!".
     
  3. pasadenahotrod
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    AH, another breath of caution and reality without apology.
     
  4. pasadenahotrod
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    I'm sorry but that thing is absolutely far and away below the scrubline and a dream candidate for a news article about "hotrodder dies in sudden stop when chassis strikes freeway slab separation bump". I have seen postings that this car DID crash but have no eyewitness accounts to refer you to.
     
  5. pasadenahotrod
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    1928-48 Ford Cars and 28-47 Ford Pickups used Houdaille lever arm hydraulic shocks, they are NOT friction shocks.

    Oh and for the picky, yes, Ford and Houdaille did introduce the tubular or airplane-style shocks on some 47-48 Ford and Mercury Cars.
     
  6. pasadenahotrod
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    It's a BODY not a "Cab". It's a CAR not a truck.
     
  7. kustombuilder
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    get a new hobby dude. 5 consecutive posts with nothing positive whatsoever to say. just errant and unprovoked thrashing of some guy who (unlike yourself) is spending the bulk of his time trying to create something unique while all you can find to do is to tear him down for it.
    has it not been made abundantly clear that your opinion is not appreciated nor wanted around here. what are your other hobbies, screaming at the walls and beating dead farm animals? :rolleyes:
    for what it is worth you have brought this thread back to the top more than any other two people combined (no i did NOT actually count).
     
  8. skottyknukkles
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    listen commando i dont mind one or two posts with constructive criticism but if you dont have any thing to add that helps the build of the car dont bother posting. While you are wasting every ones time including your own i am building the car of my dreams.
     
  9. yamadafacka
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    whats with all the hate for the underslung?? its his car, let him do what he wants with it. and for the people who are shit talkin his build, where the fuck is your build thread, show us what your buildin and let us pick it apart
     
  10. 35mastr
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    Any progress updates?
     
  11. skottyknukkles
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    no updates yet. i had a slight accident a couple of weeks ago and have limited mobility. once the frame is done the rest will fall into place. really want to have the roller finished in the next few weeks. still have to find rear parts and brake parts. after that ill tackle the new floor. from there it should be all down hill
     
  12. Roadsterpu
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    Look forward to seeing the updates. Sorry to hear of your accident, but some time off could give you time to think of new things to do to the car. Hope you feel better soon.
     
  13. skottyknukkles
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    hey thanks alot! it sucks sitting around all day waiting to heal. thank god my uncle had collected 10,000 vintage rod mags. i have em dating back to the 40s. i read about 400 of em so far. you would not believe how much good stuff is in the older mags. less advertisements and more build tech. i tryed working on the car in flip flops but the cement floor was too cold and i didnt want to risk hitting my foot on any thing. =(
     
  14. skottyknukkles
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    its been too long! here are some updates. things are coming along. i got my front axle set up etched in stone i decided to mount the late model ford shocks on the axle and took a different approach to securing the axle as well. i still would like to put some lower link bars in to address the issues some were concerned about under hard braking. i also finished the rear shock mounts, and worked on the watts link. its not finished but taking shape. just have to get a center pivot section and make it double shear to finalize it. the next step, and when it stays warmer out side, will be putting a floor in the car.
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  15. skottyknukkles
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    also got some cool valve covers and and front oil fill offy intake! [​IMG]
     
  18. AA/Fuel34fordpu
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    Keep up the good work man there's no shame in your game!
     
  19. Hip
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    Man!, im lovin this thread! Nice work, "Knukkles".
     
  20. Gahrajmahal
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    I am really enjoying your thread! I am curious if the underslung setup needs any type of panhard bar, or one of those anti-shimmy steering shock thingies like I had on my leaf spring 64 econoline. Also does any of the design theory from the underslung carry over to quarter eliptical set ups? I believe I see both suspension setups often when the wife and I watch the old british mystery shows on two and four seat roadsters (so you can see the actors). They seem to handle pretty well cornering and driving on gravel roads in the series.
     
  21. careyohio
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    Love your build.......you do nice work !!!!!!
     
  22. 26T
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    The front of your frame makes me want to own your car. The minitruckin" rear not so much but I'm a recovering minitrucker myself so I have faith that you'll get there! You handle criticism with grace and integrity too. Nice work!
     
  23. Beef Stew
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    nice build. is that all mig work?
     
  24. lonestarluck
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    Looks like you have some pretty good fab skills and think things through pretty well, good luck with your build it looks good.
     
  25. synthsis
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    That rear end setup is something I'd expect to see out of ScooterMcrad or Sellars. nice work.
     
  26. Very cool build....keep the pics coming....John
     
  27. kookee
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    Well, I aplaud the creativity and effort.

    I could not have done that to a complete car in such nice shape. Not sure it is traditional. But I am not here to judge.

    Good luck and keep moving forward!
     
  28. '52 F-3
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    first time i seen your build thread, i really like the front suspension. some nice work going on.
    but i just ain't feeling the watts link. i like the whole rear setup, except that, and it'll be so visible once car is done.

    it might be alittle late in the build, but have you considered a track bar instead?

    also, i just don't understand the hate....... keep up the good work.
     
  29. 2Loose
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    Nice work! Just stumbled across this thread and read it end to end (well, I don't get online much, rather be out in the shop!) Sorry you had to put up with some of those comments, too bad there are so many idiots around with access to computers! My own experience is mostly 50 years of old choppers and 50's era Chevy trucks and sedans, so not a lot of time spent on the street rod stuff. But a career as a mechanical engineer (farm equipment mostly, licensed PE) lets me say I like your work, you are taking your time, thinking it out, and the work is solid. I've always looked for the cleanest stuff to start with, and modified from there, like you are doing. Technically there is no problem with the underslung setup, and I do like the looks a lot! Got no time for the purists who think it's a sin to build what we want starting with something clean instead of a rusted out piece of junk, but I've done both.

    There was one comment I saw, that you addressed, is regarding the spacer setup between the front axle and the springs, and the problems that will occur with hard braking. Dearching the springs is probably the best way to go, but maybe I can add something on that. I saw a setup once that might apply to your front end. The axle and springs were mounted in "normal" style under the frame, but the frame was notched and reinforced, and the axle was mounted a ways above the leaf springs with a stout link, built like a shackle, on each side, that was hinged with a bolt and a bushing located at the spring end, and welded solid to the axle. The axle also had stout links bolted solidly on each side going back to the frame, which kept the axle solidly located with respect to the frame, but with the pivoted link to the springs, allowed the whole assembly to move up and down freely without binding. The torque applied by hard braking to the whole assembly was safely and easily handled. I drove the rig, it handled well and cornered flat without any apparent problems. This was long ago, I looked to see if I still had any photos, couldn't find any, but I can try to draw it up if you want. But I'll bet you follow what I was trying to explain.

    Can't wait to see photos of it out on the road, with you behind the wheel and a huge smile on your face....
    Aloha,
    Willy

    PS, I will add that I've built quite a few Watts links, and seen some bad ones that weren't set up right. The main problem I've seen with the ones that were set up right was wear. There's five pivot points on those setups that wear, and if you're a driver like me, you'll put a lot of miles on, and they tend to wear pretty fast in my experience, eventually giving you a lot of loose movement back there. I've pretty much gone back to all panhard bars for the street, only two wear points and they seem to last longer before needing a rebuild.
     
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