1952-59 Ford Upgrades for 292

Sent that guy a PM on the dizzy with pertronix. Hope he gets back to me soon. Talked to GMC Bubba and he told me to grab it quick. So, I am trying. I tried driving the 2 door today, but it takes forever to get started. Then when I finally got it started and rolled it out of the banked driveway, it sputtered and died. Not sure what thats about? Maybe the timing? I think the guy put in an inline fuel pump cuz its hums when the key is in the on position. However, there is a pump still on the engine....? Im lost on that one. Tried starting it again and it wouldnt start. So I had to push it back into the driveway... by myself! Boy that ****ed! Can't wait to swap out this y block. Need to do some research and get the timing on it right too. Seems a little off to me. I JUST WANNA DRIVE!!! Such a pain! But I guess thats part of the deal.

 

Dragonknucks... I'm really confused. What car are you working on? What motor does it have in it now?

It sounds like you need some help with the basics. It could be that your 2-door (have we seen pix of that car?) might be roadworthy with little more than a tune-up.

How 'bout if you sit down and tell us (if you haven't already) about the car you're trying to get driveable. Post some pix if you have them.

Stalling, humming and being ornery are pretty normal for old cars, and it's usually attention to basics that will get them running right again in short order.

No need to get frustrated, the HAMB is here to save the day!

 

Okay. Now I got it...I think. The car is your new '54 2-door that's at your Aunt's house in Oklahoma. It's got a 6 in it now, but you're thinking of building a Y-block for it.

The 6 that's in it runs, but not very well. So you can't drive it until you get the 6 running better...or get a Y-block or 302 swapped into it.

The Y-block you're asking about is one you're building to put into the 2-door to replace the current 6 cylinder.

Am I close?

 

I also thought he was replacing the 6cyl with a Y block he had and was asking about some things to get some more power out of it on the cheap side .
This is what I was thinking he was going to do with the 1954 tudor .
I am sure the 6cyl will run if he does the normal work and replace the parts that should be replaced and I bet it will run fine . I always do a major tune-up and carb rebuild when I get a car where it sat for a long time . I also use a gas can as a fuel cell till I see what the original one looks like . I am thinking he just wants something better than a 6 banger under the hood . A Y block would be the easiest to install .

Jim

 

HAHAHAHAHA Sorry guys! The 2 door is at home now. I got it during Thanksgiving. It has the 6 in it with a 3 speed. It was listed as "running and driving" when I bought it. I also have the 4 door still. The one that got totalled by some chick that was texting on her phone. That car has the y block in it. That y block is the 1 that I'm gonna put in the 2 door. I dont like the 6. In fact, after what happened today, I hate it. Awww I guess I'm just bitter that it's not what it seemed. I yanked the battery out of the 2 door and put it in the 4 door. Started right up with no problems. I looked at the 2 door and said "That's how you do it Smalls!" Anywho, I will have the 6 up for sale soon if someone is looking for one.... Sorry about all the confusion.

 

Sounds like the car has an electric fuel pump back by the tank which is a "pusher" and the stock pump on the motor(not a bad thing).If it was done the right way it should have a filter ahead of the electric pump,if the car has sat awhile it may have some varnish that is plugging it up,so give me a call and I'll walk you thru what to do.

 

Should I start a build thread of this new 2 door? I'm already taking pictures of it like crazy. Everything I do to it will be do***ented with pictures and all receipts will be kept this time as well.

 

Oh! And I have another question. Once I transfer my y block into my 2 door, can I still use the 3speed thats in it? Will the bellhousing line up? I have a good pressure plate, clutch disk, pilot bearing and throwout bearing that I could use. I just dont know if I'm going to run into the same problem as before with the mounting of the z bar. (Dont know if you guys can remember that h***le I went thru when building the 4 door) As usual, all info is greatly appreciated. You guys have been awesome. Thank you.

 

Today 01:32 AM
dragonknucks

Should I start a build thread of this new 2 door? I'm already taking pictures of it like crazy. Everything I do to it will be do***ented with pictures and all receipts will be kept this time as well.

Phew! For a while there I thought I was loosin' it...

Yes, by all means start a new thread on the new car. Post photos and ask questions.

Putting your old Y-block into the new 2-door sounds like the makings of a great car. Regardless of what Raceron thinks, I actually like Y-blocks and I think they have the potential to be a strong street performer while also being ultra-nostalgic.

And, they sound really great with Porters or Smittys. Just don't go overboard with pipe size. 1-3/4" to 2" duals are plenty big for performance (there's a chart somewhere here on the HAMB which equates CID to exhaust pipe size). If you go bigger than 2" you begin to loose the "Y-block burble" that sets these engines apart from all others in terms of sound. Using too large a pipe size also REDUCES performance.

I re-read your earlier post and am glad you're going to ditch the Cragar wheels in favor of something more nostalgic. Good move. Lowering blocks in the back, Aerostar springs in the front and you're good to go.

Cool beans.

 

C&G earl Fords has a good selection of Y-block parts but I think they are all reproduced by Dennis Carpenter so you could probably just go there. Both places have pretty good catalogs.

 

Ok I didn't think I was totally crazy yet !
That was the car we all told you to buy for that good price that your brother was going to get to his home then toe it to your house . This was a few weeks back after your other car got totaled .

Really the Y block from your wrecked car will drop right in and hook up easily to the new car you just bought . Yes while the engine is out , that's the best time to clean it up , paint it and do any upgrades with it's out . It will also seem to be running faster too because you are installing a V8 into a 6cyl car . The rear for the cyl is a much nice gear ratio than the ones for the V8 . I think they are in the area of a 3.89 or somewhere like that . So your Y block will come alive much easier now . You should check to see what gears you have in the 6 cyl . car . Might be a 4.10 gear But won't be a highway rear for sure !

Are you going to keep the 3 speed trans as well ? That would really be a sweet set up with the Y block ! Heck I would just clean it p , paint it , then install a good 4 bbl and leave it alone . If it ran good before why mess with changing a lot of things to try to make it go faster . That 6 cyl rear & 4 bbl with standard shift will be a tire burner !

Jim

 

Jim, thats what I want to do. I would like to keep that 3 speed in there and not cut up my floor again. Just not sure if the z bar will mount directly to the y block or not. Also, how do I check to see what gears I have? And wanting this to be a daily driver, what gears should I have? I can hop on the highway and be to work in 10 mins, otherwise, its about 20 on surface streets. I dont mind leaving a little early, but PHX is a big city and I'd like to be able to drive all around it. Thanks!

Rocky

 

Personally I would leave the rear alone . The most of your driving is in town and there will be a nice stop light pick up due to the gear ratio . I think the same bell housing is the same too but you will need to check into that one . I still think you should be fine . The "Z" bar works the same way for both .
You might find the gear ration on the door where the factory sticker go . There should be a tag on the rear someplace that will tell you the rear ratio .
I think if you look up on the internet you could find it out that way before crawling under the car . You can also check over on the "Hot Rodders" forum . They have a wealth of information over there as well .

Jim