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  1. choppedtudor
    Joined: Nov 28, 2009
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    Years ago I pulled the ****** out of my T-bucket and upgraded it with a TH400...all was good, except for many years I have been tripping over the old one in the garage. I've tried on several occasions to sell the old one, without any interest. Not unusual, nobody wants a used ****** of questionable condition.
    Fast forward to last week when here on HAMB I see someone near me looking for a 'cheap' TH350....BINGO...this is my lucky day, maybe I can help a fellow builder out AND gain a little room in the garage.
    The guy shows up, looks it over, hands me the cash and we load up the ****** with a converter and a cable and a dipstick tube AND an output yoke......for $100.
    I was happy to just see it go to a good home, I'm not greedy and thought I was doing the right thing.
    Now the guy is telling me it's a Th350c...which I can't dispute and he 'believes' the converter is wrong. I don't know why he thinks that, but my question to fellow HAMBer's is: who in their right mind thinks the seller has the responsibility to ensure that everything is perfect for the buyers application...??? Now this guy is trying to return the ****** and/or take me to small claims court....that's a load of ****.
    How do you guys deal with situations like this? Makes me want to just take my used stuff to the s****yard....
     
  2. pat59
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    I yi yi. Sometimes ya just can't win. What the frig? For 100.00?
     
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  3. Hnstray
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    two choices, give his money back and chalk it up to 'experience'.........or, don't give his money back and
    explain to him you sold it to him with as much information as you knew, but it was his responsibility to determine if it met his needs. He looked it over and accepted it. You made no guarantees about it whatsoever. I doubt he will to take you to court, and even if he tries, based on your explanation of what happened, I doubt he has a case.

    Third option..........offer him $50 as a price reduction. You will still have netted about what a core trans is worth.

    Ray
     
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  4. raprap
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    Small claims court will not take this for $100.00. It's buyer beware. Just tell him the next time he har***es you about this, you'll call the police on him for har***ing you. He'll go away.
     
  5. patmanta
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    $100 is less than the core charge on any bare TH350. Let him return it. If he's being a huge ***** about it, let people know by taking a dump on his buyer feedback on the HAMB.

    ...maybe go to the bank and get $100 in pennies.
     
  6. 383deuce
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    Not real sure what I would do if I was in your shoes, but my first thought is I would give him his money back and tell him to keep the trannie...At least you got it out of you shop and did not have to haul it to the s**** yard.
     
  7. MercDeuceMan
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    While taking you to small claims court sounds like a load of ****, I don't know if he can or not. If I were you, in today's sue happy society its not worth it. Tell him to bring everything back in the same condition as you sold it to him and you will give him his money back. maybe all in pennies. Its a lousy 100 bucks. not worth the aggrevation that small claims court might create.
    Once I got it all back I would out him on the board for the worm that he is.

    In the future, anytime you sell something, get it in writing that they understand that what they are buying has a no return policy. Give them the taillight warranty. When his taillights disappear, the warranty has expired.
     
  8. ididntdoit1960
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    Out him on here and give back the $100.......not worth the h***le......
     
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  9. olscrounger
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    Had a similar situation yrs ago. Converted wife's 55 from powerglide to 700R. An older retired fellow came and bought it for $100- it shifted and worked great when removed. Later called and said it was in poor shape (it wasn't)--whined and complained a good bit so he came over-I gave him his $100 back and told him to keep the trans--not worth the grief for $100.
     
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  10. steel rebel
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    **** happens. It reminds me of a story a buddy told me. He advertised and sold a limited slip pumpkin. The guy called back later and said it wasn't limited slip. My buddy got mad and told him he was full of **** and hung up on him. Later my buddy checked and he had sold him just a standard pumpkin and the limited slip was still under his work bench. Honest mistake but he didn't have the guys phone # and couldn't call him back. My buddy still feels bad.
    Give the guy back the $.
     
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  11. dreracecar
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    If your time allows, tell him to take you to court, because he will spend that amount before he walks thru the courtroom doors. Have the reciept and adds from throwaways for used transmission prices.
    Did the reciept say "as is - where is" or "core" that helps in protecting the seller
    Its up to the buyer to determine application
     
  12. "A turbo 350C? Oh they are worth more, tell you what, keep it and you don't owe me the difference"

    Really, for $100 I'd expect to check it out and make whatever adjustments before I used it. If he's really adamant about returning it, take it. Somebody will probably buy it for $120 next week.
     
  13. czuch
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    Give him back the money, trip over it for another 2 years.
    Tell him if you had known it was a "C" It wouldn't have been so cheap.
     
  14. choppedtudor
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    I have bought and sold thousands of dollars worth of used parts and never expected or implied any kind of guarantee of any type. This just rattles me that he would even suggest that....
    BTW, I now see the ****** in question has been listed on Craigslist...minus the converter....lol
     
  15. OK you sold him a T350 and now he is upset that it is the transmission that you sold him?

    If you have not spent the 100 the easiest is to give it to him and sell the ****** to someone else. If you have already spent the 100 or if he shows up with a box of transmission parts tell him to take a hike.
     
  16. wraymen
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    Some one school me please. What is a TH350c and how is it different than a normal TH350?
     
  17. falcongeorge
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    T350C uses a lock-up converter.
     
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  18. scrappybunch
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    Well it's not like you sold him a T250C. It's buyer beware, He's beat. Block his number on your phone, eventually he will get the hint.
     
  19. redo32
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    TH350C has a lockup converter.
     
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  20. mikesfastlane
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    Just Refund his money not really worth the grief !!!!!!!!!! lesson learned
     
  21. Budget36
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    I think the TH350C is a lockup ******.

    Just googled, yes it is, also would be evident by an electrical plug coming out somewhere.
     
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  22. falcongeorge
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    Tell him if he brings the trans back, you will give him his money back. Set up a time, then when the set time comes up, take you wife out for brunch or whatever. Afterwards, call him back, and tell him you are really sorry but your dog had worms, and you had to take him to vet, and ask him if he would like to set up another time...repeat as necessary....:p
     
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  23. 56sedandelivery
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    Well now, I may be on the other side of the country, but I know something about this. It's for a 50 Chevrolet 4 door sedan he's doing, but I won't mention any names. By the pics he's posted, it IS a TH350 C transmission, and DOES NOT have a TH350 C torque converter. It has a regular TH350 converter, and there's no way it can even seat, let alone work. Top of the trans is painted orange, the bottom is dirty, cruddy, and not painted, In fact, the orange paint was put on after the kickdown/throttle pressure cable had been broken off; painted AFTER is was broken off. And it does't matter you gave him another one, this trans was still disquised with paint. The terminals are also painted over, and the paint has't been "scratched" off the terminals as if wires had been attached/removed. Pretty much tells me this was just someone "unloading" a transmission they did't want/need. You need to do the right thing, you sold him him a trans that is not what it's supposed to be. This is well do***ented over on ChevyTalk.Org with photos of the so-called TH350 trans that is in fact a TH350 C. For those that don't know, a TH350 C is a TH350 transmission with a lock up torque converter, and although they are similar, some parts, such as the torque converter, do not exchange. Give the guy his money back, you sold him something that is't what it's supposed to be, and you took advantage of a guy with limited experience in these things. No way in hell did you run that trans in your T-Bucket like it is! Give the guy his money back. Nuff said?
    I am Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
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  24. 1934coupe
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    All of the above! For $100.00 like was said that's core money.

    Pat
     
  25. bobss396
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    I used to sell most of my used automatics to transmission shops as cores. At the time I'd get between $15 and $50 and considered it a win. Anyone local want a Chevy TH400 (1974 station wagon, long tail) for free? Stop by and its yours.
     
  26. choppedtudor
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    Butch, I'm not going to be bullied into giving the guy a refund. Let me address a few questions that have come up. Yes, I ran this ****** in my T-bucket for over 10 years, This was the ****** that was in it when I bought it,it's painted the same color as my motor was. No I didn't use the wiring because my car only weighed 1600 pounds and I didn't feel the need to lock it up. The Kick-down cable in question was broke when I bought the car, and didn't really make a difference to me because I had a ratchet shifter and basically ran it as a manual at all times. The 'new' paint on the converter was a simple way of cleaning it up and keeping it from rusting while sitting in the garage. I guess I could have just left the converter out of the deal, but I figured I'd give the kid whatever I had to help him out...I guess that's what happens when you try to cut someone a deal. They always want more than they pay for, even if they got everything you had... sigh...
     
  27. Budget36
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    So someone was asking for a TH350, and by this part of your post:
    You knew it was a 350C?

    If that's the case, then you should drive over to his place, give him the money back...up to you if you want to haul the stuff back or not.
     
  28. adam401
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    Life's short just give him the money and move on with your life.
     
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  29. choppedtudor
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    No, like i said, i'm not a transmission guy, I had no idea WHAT kind of 350 it was...I didn't even know that a 350c existed...not using the wiring was something that came to light only in recent days. This thing was in the T-bucket when I bought it and worked fine for me...
     
  30. Chili Phil
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    Well, it sounds like you didn't mean to cheat the guy. It also sounds like you did cheat him. So, from way out here, on the West Coast, it looks like the honorable thing to do would be to give him his money back. $100 isn't enough money to be a **** about it.
     
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