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Technical V8-60 dual carb generator

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Truckedup, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. Truckedup
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    Got a Ford V8 -60 with an Eddie Meyer intake with dual 81's . Seems there's no space to locate a generator or even a shorter alternator.
     
  2. blucar
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    It was a very common practice to use a side mount generator on the Ford V8 flat head engines with multiple carb manifolds..
    I have a few pix of a '40 V8 60 installed in a '48 MG.. finding the pix is somewhat of a problem, my computer hard-drive crashed a couple of months ago.. Still trying to recover the info stored there-in...
     
  3. Dean Lowe
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    This is the Eddie Meyer V8-60 from my Dad's midget in 1946. Eddie was not concerned with 60's in street applications. He was big in midgets and 135 hydros, and geared his 60 products for racing only.


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  4. Bruce Lancaster
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    And that's the problem...almost all souping of '60's was for racing, and the equipment reflects that. I am not aware of any commercial generator bracket for the things... I think you will have to fabricate, probably from welded steel plate, a bracket geometrically similar to the aluminum ones used on 59A type engines. If you wany aluminum and a real fit at the generator bracket, the holes in a '39-48 one could be welded up and the thing re-drilled to suit.
    The racing angle on this would be a magneto and push-start.
     
  5. Truckedup
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    I can fabriacte brackets but there's no proper place for the generator/alternator . Mounting off to the side screws up the V belt geometry on the pump pulleys.
    Anyone have success running the "81" carbs float bowel to the rear? This gives another 1-1/2 inches, total of 6-1/4, to maybe squeeze in a small tractor alternator. Yes,alternator isn't right..but..

    This is the belly tanker limited street use project that won't see much running time.... I could probably just use a idler pulley and battery and call it good....
     
  6. blowby
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    Just give up and sell me that engine.

    I bought this recently at the swap meet (for 5 bucks!). It's a Kabota tractor alternator with some kind of adjustable mount added to it. I have run these alternators on motorcycles, not much power but enough to run ignition and maybe a light or two. It's 3 1/4" deep from center of pulley with the bracket. I think it will work with my 60 2x2 manifold.

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  7. Truckedup
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    I ain't giving up yet! A double pulley idler at the top in place of the usual generator. Then mount a small generator over the head, belt driven off the double idler pulley.
     
  8. big duece
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    Holy ****, we bought that same "shogun" generator for our drag car in the 90's and paid close to 300 for it. For no more than the car ran, it took care of the small electronic needs. I dont know if it would keep up with a daily driver, with more accessories.
     
  9. 27TV8
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    I have one of those and am planning on putting it in a 28 powerhouse gen case. It has four wires ? Could someone help me out with a wiring diagram. Am sure it only needs 2
    Thomas
     
  10. Rusty O'Toole
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    Could you space the pulleys forward and get more room that way?
     
  11. blowby
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    Only two wires. One wire actually, goes in, wraps around the poles and back out.
     
  12. Truckedup
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    ..The distributor side caps are in the way of the water pump pulleys moving out unless moved about 4 inches
     
  13. SUHRsc
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    Dean Lowe, Where did you guys have the battery in your midget?
     
  14. kursplat
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    it wouldn't run all the time, but is there room to run it off the driveline some where?
     
  15. fab32
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    Hope Dean comes back with a reply but in the meantime I don't think midgets had batteries on board.

    Frank
     
  16. 27TV8
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    Regards the question on #5 I have a Hexagon Tool intake and run it with two 81's and the hexagon tool manifold has the carbs mounted backwards and have never had any problems.
    thomas
     
  17. Dean Lowe
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    With the Eddie Meyer ignition on Dad's first Kurtis the battery was in a box notched into the upper, angled, part of the firewall. It was a small motorcycle battery. His second Kurtis ran a Clay Smith 60 with a Barker drive with dual 4cyl Wico mags, no battery. On the Kurtis I restored in the 80's I ran a Harmon & Collins mag.
     
  18. SUHRsc
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    Thanks Dean.... I'm researching a car now that looks like it had waterpumps in the stock location... so I'm guessing not a Barker.. could have been any other mag that would fit of course which was my initial thought till I saw your Eddie Meyer dual coil set-up
     
  19. Dean Lowe
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    The Eddie Meyer ignition was made from Pierce Arrow ignition parts. Dad said the battery was a pain in the ***, so he went to the Barker Wico set up.
     

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