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Hot Rods Vertical Slant Six?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Fortunateson, Apr 21, 2018.

  1. GTS225
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    Not an unreasonable question; I don't know that detail. But I can tell you this. In the early-mid 60's, when they wanted to add an auto to slant-powered trucks, they didn't have a heavy duty auto available. What Chrysler did was to cast up an iron adapter plate and ring that would mount to the back of the slant, and allow mounting a 727, small V-8 auto trans and convertor. That bit of info suggests that slant transmissions are engine specific, at least the outer case is. I do know that one can transplant the guts from a V-8 904 into a slant case and have a heavier duty trans.

    Roger
     
  2. zzford
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    I remember trying to service the distributor on them. I invented a few new words while I did it.
     
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  3. Hnstray
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    The block was cast to mount the transmission components in the normal level position, stated another way, the block was the only thing rotated, not the bell housing/auto trans case. However, once you consider setting the engine ‘upright’, the bell housing/ trans case now is rotated 30* . So, either the trans has to be modified or the attachment of the bell/trans case has to be ‘reclocked’. o_O

    Might be a fun project if one is slightly bored or highly motivated.:)

    Ray
     
  4. Rusty O'Toole
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    Why would anyone want to do this and give up the advantages of the slant configuration?
     
  5. PackardV8
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    I guess there must be a good reason to do that much work to modify a small-displacement 4-main bearing six instead of choosing one of the several larger displacement, stronger bottom end, higher horsepower potential sixes for the same money.
     
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  6. swifty
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    Would be good if Casual 6 would tell us what was required to put the Slant in his rail. Looking at the pic in post #2 he has short runners on the manifold and a nice set of 6 pipes made to suit.
     
  7. RichFox
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    At one time the 170 cubic inch engine was a viable choice to run in 3 liter racing cl***es. Today, not so much. And if you are installing it in a car that came with an upright engine, it may fit much better if it's also upright. Why would anybody hop up a Packard? Seems like a good idea to some of us.
     
  8. The 907 Lotus engine was designed as an inline four cylinder. There was no V8 version. You might be thinking of the TR-7 engine which was half of a Triumph Stag V8. Both were wretched contraptions
     
  9. RichFox
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    Never have seen one but I sure have hears about them............................................................................The original Lotus Esprit, the Lotus Elite, and the Lotus Eclat were fitted with a 907 engine. Developments to this engine resulted in the subsequent type 910, the 912 and the V8 type 918.
     
  10. Fortunateson
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    When I started this thread it was merely put of curiousity, if indeed it could be done. Modifications mentioned is pretty well as I thought. However, I am NOT doing it I was just curious. Unless of course I think it might be cool in my '42 Fargo p/u.
     
  11. 57 Fargo
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    The automatics used behind slant sixes only bolt up to slant sixes, and are a 904 so swapping parts from a v8 904 would not improve a thing as far as I’m aware. I have worked on far worse stuff than the distributor on a slant six...


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  12. sevenhills1952
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    I always thought the slant 6 was one of the best ever made, but I would make an inner fender access door to get to the distributor.

    Sent from my SM-S320VL using Tapatalk... Gary from Virginia
     
  13. I was not ware of a subsequent V8 version. I got out of the British game when the 907 was current. I learned something today. Problem being, my brain is full and now I can't remember my phone number
     
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  14. greybeard360
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    998 geartrain will fit the 904. It has a little lower first gear and 4 pinion planetary gears. The slant case will only fit the slant. The starter mounts up high on the side. If you rotate the motor you would have to adapt a V8 case because of the lower starter position. Not sure if that would be in the right position though.
     
  15. Casual 6
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    And the answer is, "Yes it can be done". See picture in Post #2.

    Again, the answer is, "Yes, it would be".
     
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  16. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    VERTICAL SLANT SIX?

    Silly me.
    When I read that I thought he meant ala rotary lawnmower vertical.
     
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  17. brasscarguy
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    A couple of reminisces on the old slant 6. 1st, Plastic distributor drive gears. My god how many we sold to those unsuspecting owners where their motor died at the stop light. It was a simple fix as the kit came with the new gear and snap ring to hold it in place. Of course the replacement was also molded plastic so it became a never ending problem.

    A friend had a sail boat with a slat six aux engine. After many years of great service he called me about huge oil leak all of a sudden. I went down to the boat ad sure enough a very large messy oil leak. Seems over the years the upper coolant hose had leaked and dripped down on the slant side of the block and the salt water had eaten a hole in the block. Fire it up and oil all over the place. Like most boat owners no money to do a proper repair job, so we improvised.

    Found an old MJB coffee can and a old inner tube. We cut the can in a square as we did the same to the tube. Up to the hardware store for some self tapping screws and a can of Henry's roof sealer. Back to the boat slathered the roofing sealer on the tin cover and one side of the rubber tube, then laid it out in the sun. Drilled some pilot holes for the screws. Hammered the coffee can cover to the semi rounded motor block. Took the hot cover and rubber gasket ad screwed it down to the block. He let it sit for a week and WELLA!!!!! leak stopped problem solved and the rest is history.

    just sayin'

    br***carguy
     

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