History Vintage "Cageless" Midget Picture Thread

Ya get ahold of me got some info on the car and you can talk to the guy that drove the car gene weyant good friend of mine talked to him about that you had the car was very happy that it was still around so give me a call sam.

 

<tt>This week’s report on the Fredrickson roadster restoration:<o></o></tt><tt><o></o>

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The engine block is also headed to the machine shop this week.

Chuck Schultz
Winfield, Illinois
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dad in mataka car

 

some of dads older midget stuff

 

some ardc and tq

 

44 midget

 

Billy,

Thanks for sharing these great photos of your Dad and other drivers!

Love that shot of Bob in the TQ at Pinebrook.

Anyone know who is in the photo of the Brenn #20?

 

GRRRRREAT STUFF Billy!!! ... Please keep 'em coming when & if you can.

Gearguy .. Any chance of seeing some pictures as the work on the Fredrickson roadster progresses?

 

Here are a few from my files. Some may be re-posts. The old one shows the roadster parked next to the rear engine sidewinder.

Thanks to all for your interest & support. The project is moving ahead very well but much remains to be done.

Chuck Schultz
Winfield, Illinois

 

Buildy, looks like Charlie Miller in the #20 Brenn car. Check post #386

 

Thanks Jim!

Take a look at this gallery for some neat stuff.

http://picasaweb.google.com/jamesarthur22/AntiqueRacing#

 

Yes Tony, some great stuff there, but the few I looked at were miss titled. Salem, not Eldora, Langhorne not trenton etc. But hell after 50 years to be expected!

 

True,

They aren`t all captioned correctly and a lot of them are pretty poor shots,but there are some gems as well.

I can`t ID many of the 1960s USAC sprints on there like car #61 etc. Before my time.

http://picasaweb.google.com/jamesarthur22/AntiqueRacing#slideshow/5401140761196884178

http://picasaweb.google.com/jamesarthur22/AntiqueRacing#slideshow/5401140781665735362


Any IDs on these would be appreciated!

http://picasaweb.google.com/jamesarthur22/AntiqueRacing#slideshow/5401140795399941074

 

Any IDs on these would be appreciated!

 

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NEMA owner Gene Angelillo passed away yesterday. Wynns1, who posts here, has maintained his midgets for many years in his Connecticut shop.
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During my time at the Riverhead (NY) Raceway, when ever we'd run the midgets, hours before any of the other racrers - hours before the sign in gate would open Gene Angelillo would be the very first to arrive. He'd park in the front lot and come into the office and we'd chat about midget racing. Sometimes we'd go across the road to a restaurant there and have lunch.

One time when he came early, as he walked into my office he said .. "I guess we won't be running tonight!" .. I asked why .. he said .. "Your infield is FULL of water. (It had rained the night before.) It looks like a (shallow) pond from asphalt to asphalt." he said .. I told him .. "Not to worry, that the previous promoters *improvements* made the drain work very slow, but that it worked and that the very sandy soil there would help with any remaining puddles." We chatted for some time and when it was time to sign in he first walked over towards that grandstands, then can back to my ofiice and said .. "You were right, it looks dry as a bone now!!!"

As much as I looked forward to hosting the midgets .. I also really looked forward to his early arrivals and truly enjoyed spending that time with him.

RIP Gene.

 

We're preparing to host a midget racer and his father from Argentina for a few weeks this summer and are trying to gather information on how midget racing "infected" Argentina. There is a brief mention in Chris Economaki's autobiography of an expedition going there in 1938 from NYC harbor. Jack Fox has 6 pages [including photos] on the 1955 expedition.

Do any HAMB participants know anything about this?

I'll post links to some Argentinian races. The cars are locally built and reflect what midgets become without access to custom speed equipment.

Chuck Schultz
Winfield, Illinois

 

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Leo Barbieri and his father Carlos will be visiting in late July. We'll have Leo driving one of our sportsman midgets at Sun Prairie and at Rockford. It is great to know the international brotherhood of midget racing has a South American branch.

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EXCELLENT!!!! I knew nothing about Argentinian / South American midget racing before this and would even like and enjoy knowing even more.

PLEASE post as much as you can about these folks .. their cars .. more about the history of midget racing there .. hopefully pictures too.

Also please introduce them to this thread .. maybe when the get back home .. somebody there will be able to post here in English.

Let us know about how they enjoy competing in your "sportsman" midget too. (I'm not sure what a "sportsman" midget is?)

Try .. if you can .. to have them see a full (not sportsman) midget race or two while they are here too.

THANKS for posting about the Argentinian / South American midget racing. I for one, would enjoy knowing more.

 

Our "sportsman" club is set to begin its 19th season of racing on May 16th at Sun Prairie. We have the schedule & rules on our website www.iiliniracingseries.com. The "driver" tab has photos of some of our cars & Leo's Argentinian machine.

We race older midgets on DoT legal tires. Same tires on pavement & dirt. We have some Mickey Thompson I Block sportsman tires in our inventory that a 7 sears old. We average around $300 a year per car on tires for 10/14 races. American Racer even REDUCED the price of our tires by 14% this year.

I'll try to get Leo to provide a link to their web site. Their cars are built of junkyard parts with fiberglass bodies. Carlos is a maker of cars & bodies. Very stock motors are used. Overhead cam motors are 1600cc max with factory intakes. Pushrod motors are 1750cc max with unlimited carburation.

Chuck Schultz
Winfield, Illinois

 

Hey Chuck ..

THANKS !!!

I slight typo in the URL of your sportsman club .. the correction is
http://www.illiniracingseries.com/

BTW -- I LIKE the "sportsman" idea and the obvious cost savings / cost controls !!!!

In Argentina .. Do you know if their midget chassis & rears ends built from junk yard parts too?

I clipped the picture of the Argentinian cars from your clubs Web Site to post here. I hope you don't mind.

I'd love to browse their Web Site too.

I look forward to more.

THANKS AGAIN!!!

 

Ken, some more info and pics of Argentina midgets can be found here:
http://www.midgetmadness.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17359&hl=argentina

 

Leo has been corresponding with us for a little over a year. From what he says there was some dispute between the promoter & the Americans in 1955 and some of the American race cars didn't get clearance to leave the country when the season was over. Many years later the locals found the cars and started parting them out & copying various parts. Between that & what Jack Fox wrote in Mighty Midgets it sounds like a B movie script from the 1950s.
We'll get more info & post it here. Social gatherings will be held during their visit so HAMBers in Chicago, Rockford, & Sun Prairie can meet them. If time permits I'll try to get them down to Indy to see the museum. Carlos is restoring a Fronty Ford conversion for a customer & would like to see an American version.

 

Would anyone mind if RABs32 (who has been posting some GRRREAT pictures on both the sprint car & modified stock car threads) posted some of his / his fathers & his Uncles older winged midget pictures, plus T/Qs from Atlantic City (NJ) .. caged and uncaged and also Flemington (NJ) with the wings on here?

THANKS.

 

The driver of the car shown flipping in one of the clips posted photos of the car being dis-assembled on his Face Book page.

Frame is a big tube Kurtis style. They have a full clutch & transmission with an enclosed driveline to a Model A style rear axle & open axle tube.

That thing took a terrible ride but the cage worked and being true racers they are repairing it for another weekend of racing.

 

Could this be the car that Leo Bargieri, the midget driver from Argentina, will strap into when he & his father Carlos visit with you?

No matter what car he drives when here, PLEASE let us know his feelings, reactions, etc..

 

Chuck ..

Would it be possible to give us a link to that Facebook page &/or any information how to become friends with them on Facebook?

THANKS AGAIN

 

THANKS Rootie .. Good stuff !!!

 

Try this for the Face Book photos:
http://www.facebook.com/find-friends/#!/profile.php?id=1540252982&ref=nf

The #11 Mongrel-VW has been a very bad dog the last two years so we will probably have Leo drive our Buzzard-Focus [was car #82 in the gallery on the website]. It is currently being freshened after 3 hard years of racing. It has a clutch & a starter which would be one less adjustment for our guest.

That VW has suffered 5 engine failures in two years [two different professionally built motors], which I'm told isn't unusual. We've blow holes in 2 different cylinder heads, broke a camshaft, spun a magneto drive, and ate a fuel pump. Not to mention the oil leaks. I love the look of the thing & hope we finally have it debugged.

 

THANKS for the Facebook link Chuck .. I'll check it out later.

Here's the ride that Chuck will probably have his guest strap into.

Chuck has become an INTERNATIONAL Midget Racing Ambassador, which I think is NEAT!!!!

 

Taken from the modified (stock car) thread. Stock car ace - Steady Edddie Flemke

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Ed Flemke in one of the Rollie Linblad built "Badger" midgets .. probably at one of the NEMA (North East Midget Association) shows.
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