Vintage shots from days gone by!

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Thanks for the background on this sad picture. War can seem distant, even abstract when we only see the numbers. Thanks to Dog's thread, we've seen many of the faces, read the names and stories of many, many who were touched by various wars. Thanks again, guys.

 

THANKS, Sylvian, for setting me straight. I thought it was from the later '50s. Still one beautiful car though. I really wish Packard had been able to follow through with their version of the Facel (instead of the ill-fated "PackaBakers!). I'll find the Facel/Packard concept and post it.

 

Yup, I was off FIVE years on Debbie's Facel! Absence of fins should have tipped me. Yike. Anyway, here's the marriage of Packard and Vega, as envisioned at Studebaker-Packard, thanks to car guy Alden Jewell of the FlickR community (his notes below).



Proposed 1957 Packard, based on the Facel Vega Excellence. This was actually being considered by Studebaker-Packard, which ended up going a cheaper route by adapting the Studebaker bodies for the '57 and '58 Packards.

 

I bet hes packin

 

Old iron in and around Jerome, Az.

 

No Car Seat no seat belts no Air Bags what where they thinking

 

Just a guess, I'd say Mad Magazine.

 

great shots, thks darth!

 

More Arizona history, the old remains of Beeline Dragway.

 

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Here's the actual Facel Vega (or close, year-wise) proposed for the Franco-American wedding. Alden[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]commented that, despite its high prices, the Facels often suffered quality issues, which probably would[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]have hampered the hybrid Packard, as well, unless they were assembled in the U.S.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]HawkGT64, another FlickR member, commented: "This would have been a great idea, and so timely. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]On the heals of the awful Packardbakers, this could have brought Packard roaring back in a Rolls Royce [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]kind of way. Studebaker-Packard would have the successful Lark, and the Patrician. They would have [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]had their own new Packard V8's, so any issues would have been fit and finish, maybe electrical. But [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]with just a little luck, it could have worked. Of course SPC had no luck going for them at the time, until [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]the Lark. I believe this proposal was a tad later than this tag line, like 1959. SPC was involved with [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Mercedes-Benz who objected saying this car would be unfair competition on the showroom floor and to [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]save the subsiderary SPC caved. They should have told M-B whose company was on the ropes. I guess [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]they thought they had time on their side, but really no luck or time left for SPC."[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][Jimi: Thinking of the torquey Packard V-8 in there got me thinking trans. I know the earlier Facels had [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]used the time-proven Pont-a-Mousson (sp?) tranny. If they could stand up to truck service and, then, U.S. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hemis (earlier years), one would think they'd handle Packard power. What do the Stude-Packard HAMBers [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]think?] [/FONT]

 

Speaking of marriages, we all know that the union of Nash and Kelvinator
in the late '30s made Nash the leader in auto air conditioning. Others tried
various systems, but in the end most, if not all, makers adopted the general
Nash totally under-hood system. It would seem that early, practical AC, plus,
small economical models helped keep Nash afloat as other independents
folded in the '50s. COOL color ad, thanks to Alden Jewell of FlickR!

 

For the Diamond T fans! Hard to top these. Both of these grilles are MEEEEAAAN!



1947 Diamond T tanker, thanks to Alden Jewell, also responsible for the '62 4300 below.


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Before he hit hard times in the hills of Beverly.

 

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Poor Hudson. After the ill-fated Jet squandered the company treasury that could have
gone toward a new platform and a V-8, they wound up in their last years as gussied up
Nashes. Nice try, but the car-buying public didn't go for it. After '57, even the proud
Hudson name -- around since 1909 -- passed into history. Above, the '56 Hudson Hornet
Super sedan (still with the famous Hudson 308 L-head), below, the '57 Hornet Custom
hardtop (with AMC's own new 327 V-8), both thanks to Alden Jewell. Nice reliable cars?
Sure. Hudsons? Well, er, uh ...

 

Hence the uneasy wave goodbye... And the term get in, sit down, hang on and shut up comes to mind.

 

Here's a feast for the eyes of NovaDude OR any Willys nut!


1941 Willys Americar station wagon



1941 Willys half-ton pick-up



1941 Willys Americar coupe

 

Originally Posted by raceron1120
About 1963, unknown location

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This is actually still in the same place. The Sarasota Classic Car Museum at 5500 N. Tamiani Trail in Sarasota was started in 1953 as Horn's Cars of Yesterday Museum. In 1967 Walter Bellm bought it and it became Bellm's Cars & Music of Yesterday until he sold it in 1997.

For many years Bellm owned Tucker #1045 which was displayed there.

 

I'm wondering if that's the great cinematographer James Wong Howe on the left. He started his career as a camera assistant for Cecil B. DeMille.

 

A few years before she was the voice of that famous(?) 1928 Porter, aka "My Mother, the Car".

 

While filming Little Women, Elizabeth Taylor learns to drive the car she won on her sixteenth birthday

 

Paulette Goddard and racing champion Ralph DePalma in their respective cars

 

James Dean

 

George Hamilton´s Rolls Royce

 

Rita Hayworth

 

Jacques Sernas during the filming of Helen of Troy

 

I've seen that pic before...

What is he driving?

 

Madge Evans

 

"Originally owned by Phil Berg, a Hollywood agent and neighbor to E.L. Cord, the 1931 Duesenberg Model J, best known by its engine number, J299, features a LeBaron “barrelside” phaeton body, the only single-cowl version of the barrelside the LeBaron built. Berg bought it from a stock of Duesenbergs that Cord needed to liquidate in those Depression years and hadn’t owned it very long when Zeppo and Chico Marx spotted it parked on the street outside Al Jolson’s house on Sunset Boulevard, where Berg and his wife were playing bridge. The two Marx brothers jointly owned a Murphy-bodied 1928 Merdeces-Benz S boattail speedster and challenged Berg to a race, with a wager of $10,000. Within a short time, the wager increased to $25,000, about as much money then as what somebody with a $2.5 million salary today makes.
As recounted by automotive historian Griffith Borgeson in Automobile Quarterly volume 18, number 3, Berg and the Marxes settled on a 15-mile circular course at Muroc Dry Lake and an early October date. Through Cord, Berg secured the services of Eddie Miller, who headed Auburn-Cord-Duesenberg’s racing department, to prepare the Duesenberg while the Marxes hired Joe Reindl, the Los Angeles area’s premier Mercedes-Benz specialist, to tune the Mercedes.”Berg found himself enjoying what amounted to factory support while his adversaries, with Stuttgart more than 6,000 miles away, were on their own,” Borgeson wrote. “But this did not bother them in the least. Everyone, and (the Marxes) above all, was convinced that the lower, lighter, smaller, supercharged Mercedes would run away from the hulking Duesenberg.”

Stripped of fenders, bumpers, running boards, tops, and windshields, the two cars lined up on the appointed day under the gazes of Jolson, Clark Gable, Gary Cooper, Carole Lombard, Mae West, and perhaps a couple thousand others. Flagged off by Harry Miller, the Mercedes – with Zeppo Marx at the wheel – took an early lead, but after the first five-mile lap, the Duesenberg – with Eddie Miller at the wheel – trotted out in front and left the Mercedes far behind. “I looked back, but could see no sign of my competition, swallowed up somewhere in my dust cloud,” Eddie Miller later told Borgeson."

There was another race involving both of the cars above yet I don't recall the details.

Dale
Cleveland OH

 

Natalie Wood. December, 1961