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Technical Viton or PTFE Valve Stem Seals?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by jaw22w, Jan 27, 2025.

  1. jaw22w
    Joined: Mar 2, 2013
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    jaw22w
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    from Indiana

    I'm ordering valve stem seals for my SBC. I see seals made from Viton and some from PTFE. Is there an application where you would use one but not the other. What is the application for each? I have been using Viton, but I couldn't give you a reason why. Just curious what the difference is!
    I guess I am particularly concerned with the heat of the exhaust valve.
    Any insight?
     
  2. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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    jimmy six
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    I currently use only Viton seal material VTO small OD seal. They are metal to metal at the valve guides. All my guides are cut to .500” to be the same on all engines, stockers or racing. I cut them myself with a Comp Cams tool. I purchase them from Competition Products.
    Years ago I used the Teflon but changed for some un remembered reason. I’m sure they will work just as well. I still have them in my Bonneville travel box.
     
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  3. jaw22w
    Joined: Mar 2, 2013
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    jaw22w
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    from Indiana

    I used those small OD valve seals on my .531" guides. They are a bitch to get off. I had to get destructive to remove them. My dual springs don't require them so I'm going with the larger OD seals with the Viton all the way down this time. They are much easier to remove. Do you have a trick for removing the metal clad seals easily?
     
  4. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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    I wedge them off with a fairly large screw diver. I chuck them anyway. My reason: After 2 races with a new set of Dart Cast Iron heads assembled by a shop with excellent parts I removed the rocker covers and found red plastic appearing pieces. 1/2 of the seals were inside the springs and we removed the pan and found red pieces on the oil pump pick up. Luckily I had the tooling to remove everything on the head still on the engine. It is a single spring head because we run a flat tappet cam by the track rules at #140 psi. I felt the spring movement did damage but the smaller diameter metal to metal was a better choice.
     
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  5. 302GMC
    Joined: Dec 15, 2005
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    302GMC
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    from Idaho

    If you're forced to burn ethanol laced gas, AERA recommends sticking with .002 stem to guide clearance & just o-ring seals if the engine will not be in constant use.
     
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  6. seb fontana
    Joined: Sep 1, 2005
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    seb fontana
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    from ct

    How bout some different seal pics? I'm ready.
     
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  7. 1biggun
    Joined: Nov 13, 2019
    Posts: 686

    1biggun

    If there is room I ran the umbrella seals like a ford uses that does not grip the guide .

    Otherwise I was still running the Teflon seals as I have a bunch form years ago .

    I like a little lube on a stockish street engine so I like the umbrella or just the factory oring in the retainer like chevy did for the last 65 years or so .
     
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  8. Dedsoto
    Joined: Jan 7, 2014
    Posts: 346

    Dedsoto
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    from Australia
    1. Aussie HAMBers

    Viton seals are more forgiving if you're a little heavy handed on installation. Teflon seals work well but can crack or chip easily.
     
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