History We ALL Love a DARE! PIX of TRULY Extinct Makes?

I don't believe Mark bought this Peerless as an investment. I believe he honestly plans on restoring the car. He's just finishing up a '32 Stutz DV32 Conv. Coupe. And he's also in search of a 1934 Stutz Club Sedan Body for a 1934 Stutz Chassis he has.

 

Back on page 159, we took a look at the Goggomobil. I recently crossed paths with this one.

 

Maybe some of you super-sleuths can help me out.

in 1978 Dennis Adler wrote an article on the two known Continental Mark II convertibles at that time.

In his article he mentions seeing a picture of a Mark II convertible taken almost a full year before the Derham Mark II convertible was introduced at the Texas State Fair in October of 1956.

The documentation of my car shows that it was cut into a convertible from a new car in September of 1955 and delivered around mid-December '55, purportedly to be used as a dealer-demo in the Chicago area.

I've contacted Dennis and he says that his early library has gone missing and does not recall which car magazine the article was from.

The earliest pictures I have of my car date to 1962, when it had just 18,000 miles on it.

 

Hi Barry;

I recall that the other Mark ll Convertible was from some where in Iowa. It does exist. Have you tried the Lincoln Continentals Owner Club?

Jim

I think I mis read what you were looking for but for those that may not know, the other Mark ll Convertible was built by Hess and Eisenhart,

http://www.hubcapcafe.com/ocs/pages01/linc5602.htm

 

That's the Derham-made convertible. Its history is well documented.

This picture was given to me by Paul Wagner, first public owner of the Derham car.

 

Hi, Jim. No, I wasn't assuming nor pre-judging his intent ar all. What I meant is that this seems to be the less-collected car for that year (and SCARCER, too). So, I honestly think he's fine in the long run, regardles of how he porceeds. Sorry if I gave the wrong intention.

 

RE the Mark II 'verts, I guess I was wrong in thinking they were all done by Hess & Eisenhart. I enjoy this thread, wherein we just kick around details. It is just awesome to get out of bed every day and even be on the periphery of such discussions! Thanks, guys!

 

WAY too sweet, HJManiac! One of my FAVE Studebakers. But to see it in this dress is a treat!

 

Derham made the car that ended up being used by the Ford family, sold to Wagner, sold to family in Iowa, where the sons have inherited it. That car was made in late '56. My car was made in late '55.

It's a picture of one of the Hess & Eisenhardt cars that I'm looking for.

 

1938 Arhens Fox SC.

This is a project that I as a member of the former Wednesday night Crawford Auto-Aviation Museum volunteer group is helping the Parma, Ohio Fire Dept restore. As far as our research shows, there were only 9 of this particular year and model built with only 4 known to survive; 1 is this and 1 is the restored one owned by Southern Campbell Volunteer Fire Department of Alexandria, KY

 

HJ, another admirable project by displaced former volunteers from the Crawford Aero & Auto Museum!

Hey, was the Ahrens-Fox still gasoline powered in 1938? Or were they going over to diesel? What can you tell us about what's under that big hood???

 

Ever been to the Firehouse equipment museum in Ypsilanti, MI? We just had a gathering of Porsche 356 owners there. You'd love this place.

 

I've been to the Ypsilanti firemen's museum myself.

link to my pictures here:
http://rides.webshots.com/album/560081312BFJTHa

 

In the Never-Wuz concept category. At least on the ol'
drawing board, companies could give free rein to ideas
their budgets couldn't support!

 

Unlike the K-F dream car, this Tucker concept
apparently ALMOST-WUZ!!! Not a fanciful piece,
this is the cover of an actual promotional brochure,
seemingly indicating Preston was on the cusp of
approving this as the production version! Lowcat
posted this over on the "Vintage Shots From Days
Gone By" thread -- one cool thread, BTW!

 

Not sure if this one has been mentioned.
Barrie Bell 1916-1921 built in Barrie ontario Canada.

THE BARRIE BELL, 1916-1921
"THE PRIDE OF THE HIGHWAY"
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In 1915 Simon Dyment began negotiations with the Bell Motor Car Company of York, Pennsylvania to assemble the lightweight Bell automobile in Barrie. To finance the venture Dyment is reputed to have borrowed heavily using the family’s holdings as collateral. The loan was reported to be $750,000. Assembly of the car began at Barrie in 1916. Twenty-nine to forty Bell automobiles were assembled in Barrie. By 1918, the company was in deep financial trouble. The Bell automobile venture proved the undoing of the Barrie Carriage Company and the Dyment family fortune, forcing both into bankruptcy.

The Bell automobile is extremely rare. Prior to 1990, it was believed that only one Bell remained in existence. An American-built Bell was restored in York, Pennsylvania and is currently owned by Mr. W.F.O. Rosenmiller II.
In 1990, Mr. Brian Jackson purchased a Barrie Bell body from Mr. G. Smith of Orillia, Ontario. Between 1990 and 1995, Jackson assembled local history surrounding the Barrie Bell and acquired some additional body parts.



Looks like there may be only one Bell automobile and one Barrie Bell automobile left in existance!

 

Oh! No! Please just say this isn't so.

 

The Parma truck has a 383 cu/in Hercules WXC-3 / 6 cylinder engine in it, gasoline. Notice the Pee-Pee carb on it. One of my tasks is to research as much of the info I can on these engines. I am just scraping the surface. Any help would be appreciated.

The man in the second pic is Andy a displaced Crawford volunteer. He is legally blind. He is our BEST brass polisher. He does it mostly by feel. I challenge any sighted person do a better job than Andy. He is surely another lost treasure of the Crawford Auto-Aviation museum.

 

Now THIS is special, and a shot I haven't seen before.
Unless my gray matter blew a fuse again, it's the ORIGINAL
prototype done by Howard Dutch Darrin for Joe W. Frazer.
This looks better IMHO than the production version. Darrin
was incensed by how the in-house design department
homogenized his design (he was a picky guy), and he would
barely talk civilly with them ever after.

BUT, his new '51 design got produced pretty much as he
intended and was praised worldwide. With little change it
was produced for a dozen years (including IKA, Industrial
Kaiser of Argentina). Really, for longevity, it rivaled Loewy's
'53 Stude Champion/President template.

A couple of footnotes, folks: Notice that Darrin's prototype
bears NO badging? And, when Darrin and Frazer hooked up,
Joe was still operating on his 1944 promise to bring out an
all-new Graham-Paige automobile after the war. Had Henry
Kaiser NOT entered the picture, it is fascinating to think how
the scenario might have played out!



Here's the prototype shot I posted last year, and I'd thought
it was the only existing pic of the car Howard Darrin designed.



Sincere thanks to the Frazer Fraternity, which shows this photo
on the internet at their site, public.fotki.com/kfnut/the_frazer_
fraternity/darrinby, site of the official chat room of the Frazer
Fraternity organization. For a great read, first just search Frazer
Convertible on Google.

 

1961 Kaiser Carabela. This car is also owned by Juan
Carlos Tuzzolino from Argentina. Kaiser produced
these cars in Argentina from 1958 to 1962. Industrial
Kaiser Argentina finally quit making them when the
old Manhattan hydraulic dies simply wore out (one
reason Checker also stopped making cars in '82).


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Hemmings Find of the Day – 1925 Gray

Courtesy of Daniels Strohl

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No doubt most folks haven’t heard of the Gray, even those folks who have a passing acquaintance with automotive history. Long story short, in 1920, former Packard, Cadillac and Ford bigwigs got together, bought out the Gray Engine Company in Detroit, and announced that they planned to take on Henry Ford’s Model T with a similarly priced four-cylinder car, but one that offered a conventional three-speed transmission and slightly more upscale styling. The Gray came to market two years later, sold on its fuel economy (30-plus MPG), and sold okay for the next few years, until the company folded in 1926. This 1925 Gray touring for sale on Hemmings.com is one of five known to exist, according to the seller.

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er, hu . . . "mildy customized" '50 Nash Rambler.
Looks a tad like something out of "Mad Max Beyond
Thunderdome," doesn't it? If they'd just painted it Plum
Crazy Purple, they could have called it the People Eater!
Sheb Wooley would have been proud! LOL
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Should have stayed extinct and on the drawing board . . . it must have ESCAPED!!!​

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Burning Man gathering? That IS amusing, in an Octopus' Garden sort of way.

 

Here is a picture I found today. Taken in the parking lot of Billing's Marine in Shrewsbury Mass circa 1966. Stutz DV32 Bearcat. Few made and not many still around.

 

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S.P.A.A.M.F.A.A.

http://www.spaamfaa.org



Postcard from the Pope-Hartford Co. featuring a hose/chemical
built for Brockton, MA, card is postmarked 12/20/09
(see reverse of card below)
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Fend-Fitzer, pre-Messershmidt.
1 cylinder car



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5758SvH7d4

 

AJ, the Bearcats were cool 'til the end, weren't they? Like the Model-T, they have that distinction wherein even most laypeople readily recognize the name and associate it with an era. That's what I call making a mark.



I wish good photo studies of the whole series were more readily available, though.

 

Jim,

I'm sure we covered this somewhere in this thread but my favorites were the very last ones called the "Super Bearcat" because of their ultra small wheelbase. This one is owned by a friend who still owes me a ride.

 

AJ, would this be the '33/'34 Super Bearcat
with Stutz's own double-overhead-cam V-8
with 322-CID, dual downdraft Strombergs,
4.5" stroke and 156 horses? Hydraulic brakes
all 'round, to boot? If so, pretty powerful AND
sophisticated machine in the mid-1930s !!!



BTW, AJ, how about sharing the link to your recent Duesenberg
ride??? I think the group here would enjoy hearning that mill run.