History We ALL Love a DARE! PIX of TRULY Extinct Makes?

Thanks for the info on the Atmos!
I kept thinking Futura, and did note the era correct Ford Emblem, but had no name to go by. I'm assuming these pics were taken at a Buffalo area car show, but don't know for sure. So many slides to go through from so long ago.

 

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 750px; align: center"><TBODY><TR><TD class=title>1921 Murray-Mac 70 T Series</TD></TR><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; FONT-SIZE: 1.2em; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Roadster</TD></TR><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; COLOR: #800000; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Standard Specifications </TD></TR><TR><TD> Show Summary </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><FORM id=specsform method=post name=specsform action=specs.php><!-- show the car photo if we have one -->
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=label>Original Base Price</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Produced</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Body</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Body Maker</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Doors</TD><TD class=data>2</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Passengers</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Model Number</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Weight</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Dimension</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheelbase</TD><TD class=data>131 inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Length</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Width</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Height</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Tread</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Tread</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- show all the engine information --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Engine</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data>Beaver Valve-in-head</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Displacement</TD><TD class=data>303.1 cu. in.</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cylinders</TD><TD class=data>6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Bore & Stroke</TD><TD class=data>3 1/2 & 5 1/4 inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Compression Ratio-Std</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Compression Ratio-Opt</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Brake Horsepower</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rated Horsepower</TD><TD class=data>29.4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Torque</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Main Bearings</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Valve Lifters</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Block Material</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Engine Numbers</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Engine No. Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Lubrication</TD><TD class=data>Pressure to all bearings excluding wrist pin</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Carburetor</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Make</TD><TD class=data>Stromberg</TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- show all transmission information --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Transmission</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data>Unknown at time of publication</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Drive</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Of Gears</TD><TD class=data>4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Gear Ratios</TD><TD class=data></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>1st</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>2nd</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>3rd</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>4th</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>5th</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Reverse</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Clutch Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Clutch Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Axle Type</TD><TD class=data>Full floating</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Differential</TD><TD class=data>Spiral bevel</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Differential Ratio</TD><TD class=data>4.8</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Suspension</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear</TD><TD class=data>Three quarters elliptic</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Steering Gear</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Brakes</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Service</TD><TD class=data>External contracting on rear wheels</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Size</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Emergency</TD><TD class=data>External contracting</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Display the Other Systems Specifications. --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Other Systems Specifications </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Exhaust System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Ignition System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Battery</TD><TD class=data>6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cooling System</TD><TD class=data>Water pump</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Radiator</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Fuel Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Mileage</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Show information on Wheels, Rims & Tires --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Wheels, Rims & Tires</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Mfr</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Tire Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Tire Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Spare Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Show information on Capacities --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Capacities</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Fuel</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Oil</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Transmission</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cooling System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Differential</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Differential</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Transfer Case</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Classic Rating</TD><TD class=data><!-- get Classic Rating from the ClsRtg table reference by Model table -->Not Rated</TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- get VIN Description from the VINDesc table --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>VIN/ID</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN/Serial no.</TD><TD class=data>1050 to 1250</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN Description</TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=xsectionlabel colSpan=2>Additional Information</TD><TD class=data><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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<TABLE style="WIDTH: 750px; align: center"><TBODY><TR><TD class=title>1921 Murray-Mac 70 T Series</TD></TR><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; FONT-SIZE: 1.2em; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Touring</TD></TR><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; COLOR: #800000; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Standard Specifications </TD></TR><TR><TD> Show Summary </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><FORM id=specsform method=post name=specsform action=specs.php><!-- show the car photo if we have one -->
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=label>Original Base Price</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Produced</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Body</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Body Maker</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Doors</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Passengers</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Model Number</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Weight</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Dimension</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheelbase</TD><TD class=data>131 inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Length</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Width</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Height</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Tread</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Tread</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- show all the engine information --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Engine</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data>Beaver Valve-in-head</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Displacement</TD><TD class=data>303.1 cu. in.</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cylinders</TD><TD class=data>6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Bore & Stroke</TD><TD class=data>3 1/2 & 5 1/4 inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Compression Ratio-Std</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Compression Ratio-Opt</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Brake Horsepower</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rated Horsepower</TD><TD class=data>29.4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Torque</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Main Bearings</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Valve Lifters</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Block Material</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Engine Numbers</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Engine No. Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Lubrication</TD><TD class=data>Pressure to all bearings excluding wrist pin</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Carburetor</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Make</TD><TD class=data>Stromberg</TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- show all transmission information --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Transmission</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data>Unknown at time of publication</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Drive</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Of Gears</TD><TD class=data>4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Gear Ratios</TD><TD class=data></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>1st</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>2nd</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>3rd</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>4th</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>5th</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Reverse</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Clutch Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Clutch Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Axle Type</TD><TD class=data>Full floating</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Differential</TD><TD class=data>Spiral bevel</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Differential Ratio</TD><TD class=data>4.8</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Suspension</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear</TD><TD class=data>Three quarters elliptic</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Steering Gear</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Brakes</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Service</TD><TD class=data>External contracting on rear wheels</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Size</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Emergency</TD><TD class=data>External contracting</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Display the Other Systems Specifications. --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Other Systems Specifications </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Exhaust System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Ignition System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Battery</TD><TD class=data>6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cooling System</TD><TD class=data>Water pump</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Radiator</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Fuel Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Mileage</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Show information on Wheels, Rims & Tires --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Wheels, Rims & Tires</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Mfr</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Tire Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Tire Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Spare Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Show information on Capacities --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Capacities</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Fuel</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Oil</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Transmission</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cooling System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Differential</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Differential</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Transfer Case</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Classic Rating</TD><TD class=data><!-- get Classic Rating from the ClsRtg table reference by Model table -->Not Rated</TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- get VIN Description from the VINDesc table --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>VIN/ID</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN/Serial no.</TD><TD class=data>1050 to 1250</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN Description</TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=xsectionlabel colSpan=2>Additional Information</TD><TD class=data><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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<TABLE style="WIDTH: 750px; align: center"><TBODY><TR><TD class=title>1922 Murray-Mac 70 T Series</TD></TR><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; FONT-SIZE: 1.2em; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Roadster</TD></TR><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; COLOR: #800000; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Standard Specifications </TD></TR><TR><TD> Show Summary </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FORM><FORM id=specsform method=post name=specsform action=specs.php><!-- show the car photo if we have one -->
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=label>Original Base Price</TD><TD class=data>$4250.00</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Produced</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Body</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Body Maker</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Doors</TD><TD class=data>2</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Passengers</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Model Number</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Weight</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Dimension</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheelbase</TD><TD class=data>131 inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Length</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Width</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Height</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Tread</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Tread</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- show all the engine information --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Engine</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data>Beaver Valve-in-head</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Displacement</TD><TD class=data>303.1 cu. in.</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cylinders</TD><TD class=data>6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Bore & Stroke</TD><TD class=data>3 1/2 & 5 1/4 inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Compression Ratio-Std</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Compression Ratio-Opt</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Brake Horsepower</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rated Horsepower</TD><TD class=data>29.4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Torque</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Main Bearings</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Valve Lifters</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Block Material</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Engine Numbers</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Engine No. Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Lubrication</TD><TD class=data>Pressure to all bearings excluding wrist pin</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Carburetor</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Make</TD><TD class=data>Stromberg</TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- show all transmission information --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Transmission</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data>Unknown at time of publication</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Drive</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Of Gears</TD><TD class=data>4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Gear Ratios</TD><TD class=data></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>1st</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>2nd</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>3rd</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>4th</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>5th</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Reverse</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Clutch Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Clutch Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Axle Type</TD><TD class=data>Full floating</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Differential</TD><TD class=data>Spiral bevel</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Differential Ratio</TD><TD class=data>4.8</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Suspension</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear</TD><TD class=data>Three quarters elliptic</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Steering Gear</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Brakes</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Service</TD><TD class=data>External contracting on rear wheels</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Size</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Emergency</TD><TD class=data>External contracting</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Display the Other Systems Specifications. --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Other Systems Specifications </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Exhaust System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Ignition System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Battery</TD><TD class=data>6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cooling System</TD><TD class=data>Water pump</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Radiator</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Fuel Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Mileage</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Show information on Wheels, Rims & Tires --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Wheels, Rims & Tires</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Type</TD><TD class=data>Artillery</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Mfr</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Tire Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Tire Size</TD><TD class=data>33 x 5</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Spare Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Show information on Capacities --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Capacities</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Fuel</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Oil</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Transmission</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cooling System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Differential</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Differential</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Transfer Case</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Classic Rating</TD><TD class=data><!-- get Classic Rating from the ClsRtg table reference by Model table -->Not Rated</TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- get VIN Description from the VINDesc table --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>VIN/ID</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN/Serial no.</TD><TD class=data>1050 to 1250</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN Description</TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=xsectionlabel colSpan=2>Additional Information</TD><TD class=data><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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<TABLE><!-- Display the sources --><TBODY><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>References</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=largedata>Motor Age February 2 1922</TD><TD class=largedata>Los Angeles Public Library
630 West Fifth Street
Los Angeles CA 90071
(213) 228-7000
www.lapl.org</TD></TR></TD><TR><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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<TABLE style="WIDTH: 750px; align: center"><TBODY><TR><TD class=title>1922 Murray-Mac 70 T Series</TD></TR><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; FONT-SIZE: 1.2em; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Touring</TD></TR><TR><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; COLOR: #800000; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Standard Specifications </TD></TR><TR><TD> Show Summary </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FORM><FORM id=specsform method=post name=specsform action=specs.php><!-- show the car photo if we have one -->
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=label>Original Base Price</TD><TD class=data>$4250.00</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Produced</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Body</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Body Maker</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Doors</TD><TD class=data>4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Passengers</TD><TD class=data>7</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Model Number</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Weight</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Dimension</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheelbase</TD><TD class=data>131 inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Length</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Width</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Height</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Tread</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Tread</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- show all the engine information --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Engine</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data>Beaver Valve-in-head</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Displacement</TD><TD class=data>303.1 cu. in.</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cylinders</TD><TD class=data>6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Bore & Stroke</TD><TD class=data>3 1/2 & 5 1/4 inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Compression Ratio-Std</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Compression Ratio-Opt</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Brake Horsepower</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rated Horsepower</TD><TD class=data>29.4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Torque</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Main Bearings</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Valve Lifters</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Block Material</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Engine Numbers</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Engine No. Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Lubrication</TD><TD class=data>Pressure to all bearings excluding wrist pin</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Carburetor</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Make</TD><TD class=data>Stromberg</TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- show all transmission information --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Transmission</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Type</TD><TD class=data>Unknown at time of publication</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Drive</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>No. Of Gears</TD><TD class=data>4</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Gear Ratios</TD><TD class=data></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>1st</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>2nd</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>3rd</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>4th</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>5th</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Reverse</TD><TD class=data>Unknown</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Clutch Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Clutch Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Axle Type</TD><TD class=data>Full floating</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Differential</TD><TD class=data>Spiral bevel</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Differential Ratio</TD><TD class=data>4.8</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Suspension</TD><TD class=subtitle></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear</TD><TD class=data>Three quarters elliptic</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Steering Gear</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Brakes</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Service</TD><TD class=data>External contracting on rear wheels</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Size</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable inches</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Emergency</TD><TD class=data>External contracting</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Display the Other Systems Specifications. --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Other Systems Specifications </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Exhaust System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Ignition System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Battery</TD><TD class=data>6</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cooling System</TD><TD class=data>Water pump</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Radiator</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Fuel Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Mileage</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Show information on Wheels, Rims & Tires --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Wheels, Rims & Tires</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Type</TD><TD class=data>Artillery</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Mfr</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Wheel Size</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Tire Type</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Tire Size</TD><TD class=data>35 x 5</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Spare Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- Show information on Capacities --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Capacities</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Fuel</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Oil</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Transmission</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Cooling System</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Rear Differential</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Front Differential</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>Transfer Case</TD><TD class=data>Not applicable </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>Classic Rating</TD><TD class=data><!-- get Classic Rating from the ClsRtg table reference by Model table -->Not Rated</TD><TD></TD></TR><!-- get VIN Description from the VINDesc table --><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>VIN/ID</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN/Serial no.</TD><TD class=data>1050 to 1250</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN Description</TD></TR><TR><TD class=label>VIN Location</TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=xsectionlabel colSpan=2>Additional Information</TD><TD class=data><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD class=data></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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<TABLE><!-- Display the sources --><TBODY><TR><TD class=sectionlabel>References</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD class=largedata>Motor Age February 2 1922</TD><TD class=largedata>Los Angeles Public Library
630 West Fifth Street
Los Angeles CA 90071
(213) 228-7000
www.lapl.org</TD></TR></TD><TR><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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Hey there, HJ! Once again, you root out the research paydirt. The Murray-Mac WAS for real. What do you think at this point???? Sounds to me like an assembled car, BUT one that was pretty up-to-date technologically-speaking (OHV and pressure-lube, for example, rather than splash-lube).

 

In 1962, the Budd Company pitched their XR-400 to AMC to be
based on a shortened Ambassador chassis and, thus, using the
AMC 327-V-8-CID mill. Budd projected that the car could roll off
lines by October '63 -- which would have beat the Ford Mustang
to market by six months. Though tooling costs totaled little more
than $4 million, AMC was already cash-strapped for an all-new line
of models. So AMC passed on the offer, and the Mustang grabbed
a huge chunk of a virtually unplumbed market segment -- the "pony
car."



Sincere thanks is expressed to Publications International, Ltd.
and HowStuffWorks for these concepts of the Budd XR-400.


HowStuffWorks, Publications International, Ltd.

 

Jimi- Notice it was only two years 1921 and 1922 not 1921 - 1929 and pretty pricey too at $4250 in 1922. Probably why it only lasted two years and if i interperate the VIN numbers correctly only 200 of them built.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSvxLXL7bpE

Derek Moore, The Henry Ford's conservation specialist for transportation collections, and George Gunlock, volunteer special projects coordinator, are preparing the 1962 Budd XR-400 for Motor Muster.

Derek discusses preparation of the XR-400 and demonstrates some detail cleaning on the interior gauges.

George discusses and installs the louvered cover for the battery.

The XR-400 will make its first appearance in Motor Muster. It is one of three cars in The Henry Ford's vehicle collection that will be in the event.

 

HJ, RE the Murray-Mac: Thanks for nailing down years of production. Sources can osmetimes be in error, which seems to have been the case in one of those I saw. I really can't imagine a $4,000+ car staying in production during the intense competition of the 1920s !!!

It must be that the ORIGINAL Murray and derivative Murray-Mac were low-volume luxury cars and, therefore excruciatingly scarce today. We know the cars were made, but we don't know who made them, or where.

Once again, I come back to what a shame it is that the nation's auto museums don't have a very basic sharded data base, basically just a joint LIST of what cars are still in existence and where they are. It is always keen to see a photo of something that's rare or extinct, but it makes it hard to find one when no info is shared, apparently.

 

HJ, I haven't opened the YouTube piece yet, but I imagine they talk about the XT-Bird prototype that PRECEEDED the AMC version. I saw pix of that years ago, and I thought it awfully coincidental that Ford turned down the two-seater sportscar concept (basically, to back the small T-Bird), then, magically, the Mustang falls out of the sky.

 

Nope it is the Budd XR 400.

 

Here's a wild one that was posted on another thread, supposedly
called the Phantom Corsair. Anybody know any background?
Frankly, it look like something headed to Bonneville !!!

 

RM to sell 185 of O'Quinn's cars

John O'Quinn's tenure at the top of the car collecting world was brief but brilliant. Until his death last year in the crash of his SUV (check here), the hotshot Texas attorney had amassed 1,000 landmark cars, and the question is what happens to them all now?

RM auctions is bringing 55 O'Quinn cars to Amelia Island for the March 13 auction at the Ritz-Carlton (check out the list here), and an additional 130 will be sold at RM's Fort Lauderdale sale, March 26-28.

From a pair of GT500 convertibles to an elegant 1930 Duesenberg Model J Sport Berline by Murphy, John O'Quinn's collection contained high-end examples to suit a variety of tastes. Here's a sneak peek at the cars.

 

The Phantom Corsair is an automobile prototype from 1938. It is a six-passenger coupe that was designed by Rust Heinz, a member of the H. J. Heinz family, and Maurice Schwartz of the Pasadena, California based Bohman & Schwartz coachbuilding company. The design was a departure from contemporary car design and it did away with many features, common at the time, that were eventually abandoned by mainstream designers.

Heinz planned to put the Phantom Corsair, which cost approximately $24,000 to produce in 1938 (approximately $300,000 in 2005 dollars) into limited production at an estimated selling price of $12,500. However, Heinz's death, shortly after the car was completed, ended those plans.
The 1938 Phantom Corsair now resides in the National Automobile Museum (The Harrah Collection) in Reno, Nevada.

With a height of only 147 cm (58 in.), the steel and aluminum body had no running boards, fenders or door handles. Instead, the doors could be opened using buttons located on the outside and on the instrument panel. To match the advanced design, Heinz chose the most advanced chassis available in the United States at that time, the Cord 810. The V8 engine-equipped Cord also featured front wheel drive and an electrically operated four-speed gearbox, as well as a fully independent suspension and adjustable shock absorbers. To accommodate the large body, various changes were carried through on the chassis. The car's lower frame was made of chromoly steel and the upper frame was constructed of electrically welded aviation steel tubing. Power for the 2-ton / 4500 lb. (2000 kg) Phantom Corsair came from a modified Cord 810 Lycoming 8-cylinder unit, supercharged to produce about 190 hp. The aerodynamic body enabled the car to reach speeds of up to 115 miles per hour (185 km/h).

The automobile was featured as the "Flying Wombat" in the David O. Selznick film The Young in Heart (1938), starring Douglas Fairbanks, Jr., Paulette Goddard, Janet Gaynor, and Billie Burke. Heinz and his car were featured in a segment of the Popular Science film series in 1938.

The Phantom Corsair can be seen and driven in the computer game Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven, in which it is referred to as the Manta Prototype.

 

O/T but historical nonetheless. When I first saw this I thought it was a customized Kaiser. I was wrong.

<CENTER>The Raven

1959 NHRA National Champion Custom

2009 Detroit Autorama 1st Place, Radical Custom Convertible


</CENTER>The Raven is a custom car designed and hand built from scratch in the 1950&#8217;s by Arthur Bentas. Arthur grew up in Chelmsford, MA on the family&#8217;s chicken farm. It was here, in an old chicken coup, that he toiled for 9 years perfecting the Raven. Arthur only built one car in his lifetime, but what he built was considered one of the finest custom automobiles of its day. In 1959 Arthur completed the car and won the 1959 NHRA National Champion Custom Car Show in Detroit, Michigan. During that year and the following, he won over 25 awards with the Raven. Then, suddenly in 1961, he put the car on blocks and covered it in the back of his shop where is sat for 46 years.

Custom Features of the Raven​

• • Built on a 1939 Dodge chassis with 6-cyl L-head engine
  • Through the bumper dual exhaust
  • Hand made cowl section, floors, wheel wells, and inner panels
  • Side body panels are highly modifed Kaiser
  • Headlights suspended in custom made housing
  • Body sectioned over the frame 2-1/2 inches
  • Doors mounted to swing up to avoid curbs
  • Dash, roof, window garnish moldings, and hinge covers made of fiberglass
  • Trunk made from modified Chevy hood, Lasalle tire cover, and hand rolled steel
  • Chrome rocker panels and window frames made by hand
  • Stainless steel door thresholds and interior trim
  • Finished in Ditzler DDL-9200 Double Deep Black Lacquer
  • Full leather interior
  • Studebaker dash gauges wrapped in custom made bezels
  • Custom fabricated floating headlights
  • Tailights are Dodge trim and Desoto lenses
  • Hydraulic clutch with custom single gate column shift
  • Collapsable steering column
  • Emergency flashers

​

 

The 1938 Phantom Corsair, which was admired as a styling milestone like the 1936-1937 Cord 810/812 designed by the late Gordon M. Buehrig, was also a design tour-de-force. And it shared a kinship with the Cord, for under its radical bodywork was a chassis and drivetrain derived from the Indiana-built Classic.

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The 1938 Phantom Corsair was designed by auto enthusiast Rust Heinz.

</center></td></tr></tbody></table>The 1938 Phantom Corsair came out of the fertile mind of young Rust Heinz, car nut and the son of HJ. Heinz of "57 Varieties" fame. Leaving his naval architecture studies at Yale for Pasadena, California, he set up an industrial design studio. His dream was to build his own car, but his family wouldn't provide financing -- so his aunt in Pasadena did.

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The 1938 Phantom Corsair had a sleek, smooth design that caught everyone's attention.

</center></td></tr></tbody></table>*In 1936, Heinz arranged to have coachbuilders Bohman & Schwartz tackle the project. They started with the Cord 810, removing the front-wheel-drive subframe and Lycoming V-8 drivetrain and mating it to an X-braced chassis produced by the AJ. Bayer Company. Kicked-up rear frame rails accommodated the Cord suspension and rear axle.

The sleek envelope design of the 1938 Phantom Corsair was Heinz's, developed with clay models. B&S provided much of the finer detail, such as the delicate center peak running the length of the car and the subtle rounding of the rear section. Body panels were made of hand-beaten aluminum and fitted over a tubular frame. Features embraced a louvered nose, fully skirted wheels, totally flush fenders, lack of running boards, extremely small windows (even for its time), telescoping bumper supports, and unique headlights.

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The 1938 Phantom Corsair shared a chassis and drivetrain with the Cord 810/812.</center></td></tr></tbody></table>Entry was via electric pushbuttons, and small panels above the side windows popped up to make it easier. Inside, occupants found an unusual 4+2 seating arrangement. Because of the front seat's five-foot-plus width, it held four people, one seated to the driver's left. The back seat was extremely cramped, due in part to space-robbing beverage cabinets.

Instrumentation came from the Cord, supplemented by a bevy of gauges including a compass and altimeter. And -- lo and behold -- a console above the narrow three-layer safety-glass windshield told the driver when a door was ajar or the radio or lights were on.

Though the Phantom rode the Cord's 125-inch wheelbase, it was bigger: 76.5 inches wide, 237 inches long (eight inches longer than the 1958 Lincoln!), and only 57 inches high. And at nearly 4,600 pounds, it was so heavy that the Cord V-8 was reportedly tweaked from 125 to 190 bhp.

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The 1938 Phantom Corsair's elegant styling stunned observers.
</center></td></tr></tbody></table>But when all is said and done, it was the 1938 Phantom Corsair's streamlined styling that stunned all who saw it. And many did, for it appeared on the March 1938 cover of Motor Age and in the movie The Young in Heart. Heinz also made arrangements to display the car at the 1939 New York World's Fair. Alas, he died following a car crash in July 1939; he was only 25 years old. Thus ended his dream to place the Phantom Corsair into small-scale production. A brochure had been prepared and the price set at $14,700, but at nearly triple the price of a Cadillac V-16 sedan, no orders materialized.

*Over the years, the 1938 Phantom Corsair saw many owners, among them TV star Herb Shriner, who owned it from 1951-1970 and had it customized. Now restored to its original form, its home is the William F. Harrah Foundation, National Automobile Museum in Reno, Nevada. Its place in history is assured -- it was arguably the most futuristic car built in the Thirties.


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SunRoofJim & HJ, you guys have amazed me, yet again. Jim,
the Heinz car here is QUITE impressive -- especially from the
standpoint that the aerodynamic lines seem quite purposeful and
practical. In that regard, Heinz's car beats out Fuller's Dymaxion
(eye-catching but ultimately poor-handling) and even the erstwhile
Paul Lewis' Airomobile (functional but a tad ill-timed).

 

HJ, THIS car is positively impressive! No wonder it won so many awards -- clean lines from ANY angle you look at it (and THAT is how I judge auto styling). I feel this is a car that should have been BUILT -- albeit in 1953! Kaiser already had some good-looking cars. But I can just IMAGINE if, say, Packard had been bold enough to introduce a down-size hellcat of a performance car JUST like this! (Of course, they'd have had to start V-8 development earlier!)

 

1955 Flajole Forerunner

Chassis no. S673772
Engine no. W7884-8S

Bill Flajole was an independent designer who began his career right out of high school at Chrysler in 1933, later moved to General Motors, Murray Corporation and Ford where he worked with Bob Gregorie on the design of Edsel Ford’s original Continental.

Flajole (a French name which he pronounced “Flay-joel”) established his own design-build shop in 1939 with John Kehrig, a skilled fabricator who had worked with Frank Spring at Hudson. The Flajole-Kehrig Company undertook subcontract design-build projects for Chrysler, Ford, GM, Nash and Murray. The Nash NXI prototype, a two-seat sportster based on a Fiat 500 Topolino, was built there. The NXI concept eventually led to the Nash Metropolitan, a Flajole design which shared several design cues with the Forerunner.

After World War II Bill Flajole established an independent design consultancy. It was the era of great industrial design from Raymond Loewy, Albert Kahn, Walter Dorwin Teague and Norman Belle Geddes. Like them, Bill Flajole was a generalist designing all sorts of functional objects in streamlined forms now described as “machine design” including toys, packaging, boats, appliances and even homes. At the same time he and Kehrig kept their hand in with automobiles.

Their automobile design culminated in the tiny but important Nash Metropolitan. Its concept and positioning derived from the prewar NXI but, influenced by the desire of Charles Nash and George Mason to create a small, personal car, took a new direction.

Before creating the Metropolitan design Flajole created a special re-designed Nash-Healey for a Johnson’s Wax promotion in 1951. It was given to Boston Red Sox slugger Ted Williams with the winner of the naming contest getting an expense-paid trip to the World Series for six.

Like many designers of the late Forties Bill Flajole was captivated by the Jaguar XK 120 and its combination of aggressive stance, advanced dual overhead camshaft six-cylinder engine and competent suspension. He bought one in 1951 and began to experiment with new designs on the Jag’s 102 inch wheelbase chassis.

In 1953 he bought his second XK 120, an M with performance cams and dual exhausts. He tested its 180hp 3.4 liter engine in the hands of Duncan McRay at the SAC road races at Chanute AFB in Urbana, Illinois and was satisfied with its performance when McRay brought it home first in class. It was Bill Flajole’s XK 120M’s first and last race. He’d decided to use it as the basis for his own futuristic two-seat sports car.

Bill Flajole wasn’t the only American designer who recognized the XK 120’s appeal. Over at Chevrolet Harley Earl and Bill Mitchell also were applying XK 120 principles to their own nascent sports car. It debuted at the 1953 GM Motorama with the name Corvette.

Flajole and Kehrig plunged down the same road as GM, experimenting with the new, adaptable material Fiberglas. Flajole’s staff in their spare time created a full size clay embodying his concepts, the tall fenders, dropped hood, wide grille integrated with bumpers and an innovative retractable roof that slid down to hide under a dramatically sloping fastback rear deck. Working progressively while still learning to deal with the new composite body material Flajole and Kehrig slowly worked their way through the problems.

The Flajole Forerunner debuted in 1955. In addition to the dramatic dropped hood profile it had a sharp translucent Plexiglas roof panel and dramatic recessed cove panels behind the wheels. Painted light beige to contrast with the Forerunner’s original dark green paint (probably Spruce Green, which Bill Flajole later identified as his favorite color), the Forerunner marked the first appearance of coves, before Chevrolet applied them to 1956 and subsequent Corvettes.

It received widespread publicity in publications of the day including Motor Trend, Road & Track and Sports Cars Illustrated. In addition to the innovative coves and retracting roof panel Flajole installed supportive aircraft-type seats with head restraints years before other designers appreciated the value of supportive seats in minimizing accident injuries.

Bill Flajole used it for personal transportation until the early 70s, attracting constant attention on his weekend drives in the car. The current show quality restoration in its dramatic metallic purple with white coves. matching white/purple leather upholstery and chrome wire wheels was probably done by Jeff Tamayo before he and his wife Sara donated it to the Blackhawk Automotive Museum. It was acquired from Blackhawk by Sidney Craig in 1998.

A significant example of American design and creativity in the early Fifties, among the many celebrity cars in Sid Craig’s collection the celebrity attached to Bill Flajole’s Forerunner is that of an innovative, imaginative American designer. Its early experimentation with new materials like fiberglass and Plexiglas and safety concepts like aircraft-style seating that would take decades to make an impression upon the automobile industry identify the Flajole Forerunner as a milestone in design and concept.

It was an era when individual concepts could find expression, admiration and success through persistence, experimentation and openness to new concepts and materials. It enjoys a deserved place of honor among Sid Craig’s collection in the select company of the Ghia 6.4L, Cadillac Eldorado Brougham and Duesenberg J Rollston Convertible Victoria.

The basic research recounted in this description was done in 1998 by Dave Selway, a docent at Blackhawk, including several interviews with Bill Flajole’s children Diana and William.

Now For Sale on Hyman Ltds. Website

http://www.hymanltd.com/search/Details.asp?stockno=4012&recordCount=16

 

<table class="details fullwidth"><tbody><tr><td><table><tbody><tr><td class="title sIFR-replaced" width="80%"><object data="/Flash/sf_FuturaSTD-Light.swf" name="sIFR_replacement_12" id="sIFR_replacement_12" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" class="sIFR-flash" width="492" height="62">From the O'Quinn collection

</object>1939 Graham Model 97 Supercharged Convertible Coupe </td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bold nopad">Chassis No.</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="nopad">505389</td> </tr> <tr><td>
</td></tr> <tr><td class="bold nopad">Estimate:</td></tr><tr><td class="nopad">$75,000-$100,000 US</td></tr> <tr> <td class="bold">AUCTION DATE:</td> </tr> <tr> <td>To be auctioned on
Saturday, March 13, 2010

</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bold">OFFERED WITHOUT RESERVE

</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="extrapad">216 cu. in. supercharged inline six-cylinder L-head engine, three-speed manual transmission, coil springs with semi-elliptic leaf springs and four-wheel hydraulic drum brakes. Wheelbase: 120"

The Graham brothers, Joseph, Robert and Ray, introduced their first automobile after taking control of the Paige-Detroit Company in 1927. In 1938, Graham introduced their most striking design, the “Spirit of Motion,” better known today as the “Shark-Nose Graham.” The supercharged convertible coupes of 1939 were design studies for a convertible model that would hopefully carry the company into the 1940s, however, their development was cut short by Graham’s deal with Hupmobile to use the Cord 810/812 body dies for the 1940 Graham Hollywood models.

Although the earliest history of this Graham Supercharged Convertible is not known, it was first spotted in the Tucson, Arizona area in the fifties. The workmanship is of the highest quality throughout the car, and numerous details such as the elaborate system for regulating the rear quarter windows illustrate that it was created and crafted with consummate skill and resources. As far as can be determined, all the major components in the car are standard Graham parts. Even items such as the top bows were Graham-produced.

Upon its acquisition by the O’Quinn Collection in 2006, the car had been fully restored and is beautifully presented in dark green with a matching leather interior. After its purchase, the carburetor was rebuilt, spark plugs were replaced, and the fuel lines were cleaned. Records in the car’s file indicate that the tan top was replaced in 2001, while new upholstery and carpets were fitted, and seat belts were installed as well.

In its present state, the car shows signs of use but is nevertheless very presentable. The engine compartment, like the undercarriage, is not detailed but contains all the proper wiring, hoses and clamps. Pitting is visible in some pieces of chrome, but the brightwork is otherwise quite good, as is the paint. Due to the more recent work conducted on the interior, the upholstery and carpeting are both excellent. The top is clean, unsoiled and devoid of rips or tears.

The Graham Supercharged Convertible is a unique and extremely well built example of a model that might have resuscitated the Graham Company if given more attention and promotion. This car, from the esteemed O’Quinn Collection, is a nicely presented and rare example.</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2">
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1926 pic of a 1924 model. Bet ya can't tell what make! Awesomely
DIFFERENT coachwork! Hint: First name, Harry. First man EVER to
score a touchdown in a Notre Dame football uniform!




Paige was a successful early 20th-Century auto make, but the aging namesake brought Harry Jewett onboard as company president in the early '20s. Jewett had excellent business and engineering knowledge. A little-known fact is that the athletic Harry was the first man to score a touchdown in a Notre Dame University uniform. At any rate, Paige introduced a companion Jewett make for 1922 (which would be phased out only when the Graham brothers absorbed Paige-Jewett in 1927).

Above is a very INTERESTING Jewett photo I ran across -- interesting because of the unusual roof line, please note. Not all Jewetts were frumpy sedans, as you can imagine, so IF anyone can find a pic of a couple of snappier models, I'd surely appreciate it!

 

Here's a 1922 Jewett Touring and an ad for a 1925 Touring as well as a restored 1925 Sedan

 

SunRoof, myself, I LIKE this era of Grahams. BUT, I feel designers overworked the headlamps -- rather severely. Only a problem (to MY eye) because it just diverts attention from the grille, which should be the central focus, the first thing to catch the observer's eye.



I'd sincerely like to take this image to James D on the Mother-of-All-Photo-Shop-Threads and ask him to SEE what it would look like with, oh, Zephyr headlight bezels? What-cha think?

 

I happen to like the headlights. Not too sure about the Zephyr headlights.
Would be interesting. This car is very questionable as I'm not sure that Graham actually built this car.

 

There was a lengthy write up about it in the club newsletter one of the last times it was offered at auction. As I recall one of the club guys saw it when it was being restored and the sentiment was very strong that this was not a factory car.

 

Thanks, SunRoof, for finding a NICE Jewett. Though they never broke the top ten, they were known as reliable cars and in step with '20s styling (can't say MORE for EITHER Paige or Jewett, though!!!). In the END, Harry Jewett KNEW when it was time to let the Graham brothers take the reins and make a whole new company -- Graham. BTW, Harry Jewett died at 62 in 1933.)

 

As long as were on the subject of Notre Dame, there was another big sports name from there involved with automobile history that had a car named for him. The following was written by Dr. Bernie Kish, former Executive Director of the College Football Hall of Fame.

In May of 1928, Knute K. Rockne, the head football coach of the University of Notre Dame, became an employee of South Bend's famed Studebaker Corporation. This is the story of a giant of a man and his relationship with a legendary American corporation.

In early 1928, South Bend was viewed as one of the most remarkable success stories in America. With a population of 126,000 people, South Bend was in many ways a miniature version of the nation's larger melting pots, including Pittsburgh, Detroit and Cleveland.

The City by the Bend of the St. Joseph River was home to over 450 industrial establishments manufacturing over 600 kinds of products. Companies like Oliver Plow Works, Bendix Brake, Singer Sewing Machine, Dodge Manufacturing and South Bend Tool and Dye called South Bend home. However, the crown jewel of the bustling, diverse and dynamic industrial community was clearly the Studebaker Corporation.

Studebaker - Circa 1928

Studebaker's roots in South Bend went all the way back to 1852 when Henry and Clem Studebaker opened a small blacksmith shop on Washington Street. Before long, the Studebaker's were manufacturing more carriages and wagons than anyone in America. In 1904, the company began producing automobiles. When Rockne joined the Studebaker Team, the company was the tenth largest manufacturer of automobiles in the world with 30 branches; 4,000 service stations and over 5,000 dealers not only in the United States but also around the world.

Rockne - The Coach and the Entrepreneur

And who was this man Rockne, who was now in 1928 a Studebaker Man? Born in Voss, Norway in 1888, he arrived at the University of Notre Dame in 1910 as a 22-year old freshman from Chicago's Scandinavian North Side. At Notre Dame, he excelled in sports as a middle distance runner and pole vaulter on the track team and captained the football team his senior year, helping lead the Irish to a 35-13 victory over Army at West Point and putting the small Catholic school on the college gridiron map. Rock, as his friends called him, also earned pin money as an amateur boxer in South Bend.

Rockne and Albert Erskine

The story of Knute Rockne and Studebaker has at its roots Rockne's relationship with Albert Erskine, the president of the Studebaker Corporation. Erskine, a Southerner by birth, came to South Bend in 1911 as treasurer for Studebaker, two years later was named vice president and ascended to the presidency in 1915. A big, hulking and gregarious man, if he and Rockne were not soul mates, they at the least genuinely liked and respected each other.

When Rock took over as head football coach at Notre Dame in 1918, one of his goals was to increase the seating capacity of Cartier Field, which accommodated less than 5,000 spectators. Notre Dame was playing some of the best teams in the country - such as Nebraska, Penn State, Rice and Texas - all away from South Bend.

He sent a letter to prominent businessmen in South Bend, indicating that the Notre Dame football team was a great advertisement for the City and appealed to them to purchase season tickets thus increasing attendance and gate receipts. The Studebaker Corporation purchased 20 season tickets for the 1919 season at $5 each. Erskine's note to Rockne with the payment stated that "We at Studebaker will support every movement for the welfare and advancement of the University and in its various activities."

Rockne Joins the Studebaker Team

In January of 1928, Paul Castner, an All-American fullback on Rockne's 1922 team, was the sales manager for the commercial division at Studebaker. He lobbied Studebaker vice president, Paul Hoffman, to sign Rockne as a motivational speaker at Studebaker's automobile conventions and dealer banquets. Rockne accepted an offer of $5,000 a year from Hoffman to be the special representative for Studebaker beginning in the winter of 1929.

The timing was ideal both for Studebaker and Rockne. For Studebaker, it fit perfectly in their annual national sales campaign. For Rockne, it was the time between the end of the football season and the beginning of spring practice. Notre Dame president Father Charles O'Donnell certainly had no objection to Rockne accepting the Studebaker offer.

In the late 1920s, Albert Erskine was the Chairman of the University of Notre Dame's Lay Board of Trustees. His generosity toward Notre Dame was remarkable. In 1927, Notre Dame officials announced that the University was in need of a $10 million Endowment Fund. Mr. Erskine gave $50,000 personally, the Studebaker Corporation contributed another $100,000, and largely through Erskine's efforts, $350,000 was raised in and around South Bend.

Rockne's first talk came in January of 1929 at the National Automobile Chamber of Commerce at the Commodore Hotel in New York City. In the audience was literally a Who's Who of the automobile industry including Henry Ford, Sr. and Alfred Sloane, Jr. of General Motors. According to Paul Castner, "When Rock signed off with his traditional `Go, Go, Go' he had the entire audience, including Ford and Sloane, on their feet cheering like a bunch of college sophomores at a Yale-Harvard game."

Rockne - Manager for Sales Promotions

On March 19 of 1931, following his second straight national championship Rockne signed a new contract with Studebaker for $10,000 a year to become their manager for sales promotions.

Rock attacked his new job with his customary vigor and enthusiasm. On March 24th, he addressed his first letter to the company's dealers and salesmen entitled "Carrying the Fight to the Enemy." In it, he compared aggressiveness on the football field with his desire to develop offensive-minded dealers and sales managers who would play the game in enemy territory. Six days later on the afternoon of March 30, while in Chicago to celebrate his mother's birthday, he made a recording entitled "Studebaker Champions" with the theme of turning suspects (potential car buyers) into prospects (actual car buyers). It was his last recording. The next day, Tuesday, March 31, Rockne lost his life in a tragic airplane crash in a cattle pasture near Bazaar, Kan.

Rockne - The Car

What about the Rockne Automobile, the six-cylinder vehicle named after him? There are several myths surrounding this car. The most prevalent and erroneous one is that Studebaker produced the car while Rockne was still coaching. The first Rockne actually went into production in December of 1931, nine months after his death.

Beginning as early as 1928, Albert Erskine felt that Studebaker needed to reenter the low-priced car market. The Stock Market Crash of 1929 did little to dampen his enthusiasm for expansion. Following declining sales and profits in 1930, he was presented with an opportunity to do so. Willys-Overland had hired two Detroit engineers, Ralph Vail and Roy Cole, to design a low-priced, six-cylinder car to replace its aging Whippet. Willys liked the Vail-Cole car but lacked the capital to put it into production. The two engineers were paid for their work and were allowed to keep the two prototypes and the rights to the engineering of the car.

In the summer of 1930, Vail showed his prototype to Erskine at the Studebaker headquarters. Erskine took it for a spin, and before the sun had set, Studebaker owned the rights to the car and hired Cole and Vail. Erskine made a full commitment to the car. He established a separate division of Studebaker complete with its own dealer organization, engineering and production facilities in Detroit.

Following Rockne's death and with the permission of Bonnie Rockne, Erskine named the car after his beloved friend. He promised to pay Bonnie and her family 25 cents for every Rockne sold. He was confident that the magic of the Rockne name, combined with a fine economical vehicle, would result in a best seller.

Two models, both with four body styles, went on the market in Feb., of 1932. The Model 65 sold for $585 for a Regular Coupe to $740 for a Deluxe Convertible. The prices for the Model 75, ranged from $685 for a coupe to $780 for a Deluxe Sedan.

According to author Thomas Bonsell, the Rockne did far better than its brief life span and reputation would suggest. In 1932, Studebaker built about 45,000 cars and over 23,000 were Rockne's. With the Rockne leading the way, Studebaker maintained 92 percent of its 1931 sales volume. This was at the height of The Depression, when the entire automobile industry was down by 43 percent compared to its 1931 production. And the company moved up to fifth place in the automobile sales standings for 1932.
Another 15,000 were produced in 1933, bringing the total Rockne's built to just over 38,000. But that year turned out to be the darkest in Studebaker history. With its capital depleted, heavily in debt with serious cash flow problems and unable to meet payments on its bank loans, the Company was forced into receivership in March. Three months later on July 1st, burdened with these problems, forced out as president of Studebaker, suffering from both a heart condition and diabetes and in deep depression, Erskine took his own life. The Studebaker Corporation then made the decision to cease production of the Rockne automobile.

Conclusion

Despite the tragic deaths of Rockne and Erskine and those dark days for Studebaker in 1933, this story does have a happy ending. Under the leadership of Paul Hoffman, Studebaker rallied in the 1930s and by the outbreak of World War II reemerged as one of the top auto makers in America. In a ten-page article in October of 1946, Life Magazine called Studebaker "the epitome of U.S. Industrial Accomplishment."

If Rock were with us today, he would be most proud the triumvirate of South Bend, Notre Dame and the Studebaker Corporation is still flourishing. In March of 2005, a beautiful sculpture created by the world-renowned sculptor and Notre Dame graduate, Jerry McKenna, was dedicated at the College Football Hall of Fame in downtown South Bend. On the final weekend of October 2005, the sparkling new Studebaker National Museum, located just a few blocks from the College Football Hall of Fame, had its grand opening featuring Rockne memorabilia. Knute Kenneth Rockne's legacy is now preserved forever in the heart of his hometown - South Bend Indiana.

First two pictures are of a 1932 Rockne Model 75 Coupe.

 

So, is this one of the ones done over in France where they were MORE than receptive to the new Graham style? Take a guess, as I know you two don't want to be quoted. Just asking ofr a "WAG."

 

Gosh, well stated and illuminating:

In early 1928, South Bend was viewed as one of the most remarkable success stories in America. With a population of 126,000 people, South Bend was in many ways a miniature version of the nation's larger melting pots, including Pittsburgh, Detroit and Cleveland.

 

If you want the full story on the Arthur Bentas-built Raven, check out the May 2009 issue of Hemmings Motor News:

http://www.hemmings.com/hmn/stories/2009/05/01/hmn_feature16.html

dan

 

Hi, Dan, and THANKS for the pointer!

I see you are from Bennington. Have you seen the example of Carl Martin's WASP there in the museum? And if so, since you are local, is there any background info on the car not generally known to the public at large? You know, inside stories, details about the driveline, what the fins on the hood were for, if it's true that osme WASPs had a little propeller on the radiator cap, etc. I've seen pix of the other WASP down in Tupelo. Has a third one turned up anyplace?

 

I couldn't resist posting this pic, for two reasons. One, looks like TWO
icons in one photo! And two, the year at least makes the wheels HAMB-
friendly, but what's the model? Who can NOT like a V-12??? Oh, and
while we are at it, was this one of Steve's personal cars OR for a movie?