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    All the $$$ it probably took to build that beautiful custom, you would think they could have sprung some $$ for some custom stands intead of those Harbor Freight cheapos. IMHO
     
  2. SUNROOFCORD
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    1934 Packard V-12 1106 LeBaron Sport Coupe

    See any similarities????
     

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    The show just started today. I would guess that this car is a contender for the prestigious Ridler award and I'd be awful surprised if it doesn't win. The mill may be a Packard V-12 with modifications of course.
     
  4. It sure looks like Packard emblems on the hubcaps.

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  5. jimi'shemi291
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    I think you definitely nailed the Packard model, guys.

    There's a LOT I would like to say about well-done dcustoms -- and this one in particular -- but, I'll just say that the owner finished it off right with well-chosen paint hues! That burnt orange really compliments the brown well.

    BTW, I AGREE about the cheap jack stands! To me, anything meant to hoist or hold up a car is a SAFETY issue, and SAFETY IS ONE AREA WHERE ECONOMY SHOULD TAKE A BACK SEAT! Hard to enjoy the car hobbies when your're dead.
     
  6. Francis Roxas from Hinsdale, IL brought out his 1934 Package with a modified 500-inch and injected Packard motor. The all-steel body was built by Scott and Dave Knight of Industry, CA
    It made it to one of the Great 8 of the Detroit Autorama. We will have to wait until Friday to see if it wins the Ridler Award.


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    Okay- It is back down on its wheels.
     
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    I said I'd shut up, but I am Irish & just CAN"T. As sleek as this custom is, I am REALLY glad they kept the running boards!!!
     
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    Fran Roxas is a well known car restorer who has made copies of a bunch of the famous coachbuilt cars of the 1930s.
     
  9. Seeing are talking about Packard:

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  10. A decade later she is still using her selling talents.

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  11. I sure would like to find one of these hidden somewhere!!

    I have never seen one.

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  12. jimi'shemi291
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    Finally! A photo of a real Murray car! And a rather unusual one at that! Louisiana native Tony Murray, great-grandson of the company founder, says he has been scouring library archives for a long time and came up with this. Thanks, Tony!

    Given the pronounced body angles and the date of 1918, it would appear that the Murray model name "Cubist" was ANYTHING BUT coincidental to the modernist Cubism movement in art and architecture of which Picasso is one of the best remembered Cubist practitioners.

    This makes for a pretty, uh, "out of the ordinary" 1918 model, to say the least! This print item confirms this to be a "second-gen" Murray, which would have sported a Herschell-Spillman V-8.

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    <CENTER> </CENTER><CENTER>[​IMG] </CENTER><CENTER>Another angle on the 1906 Finch Limited,</CENTER><CENTER>thanks to the collection of Royal Feltner </CENTER><CENTER>of Amesbury, Massachusetts</CENTER>
     
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    Porthole windows too. Just like the '56 - '57 T'Bird:D

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  15. jimi'shemi291
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    HJ: I'd just noticed the portal windows when you brought it up! LOL. The car was attention-getting enough in other ways, that I'd missed the windows; in fact, I was looking for bud vases (common at the time) and saw the windows in the cloth top.

    Hey, this only leaves us needing a PIC of a Murray-Mac, and the "Murray" TRIO will be complete!
     
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    1921 Signal

    engaged in logging duties in the US. Tough job, tough trucks, tough guys by the looks of things. Note the complete lack of protection (headache rack) for the driver if those logs shift forward.
     
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    Made in Boston, the American Motor Sleigh of 1905 was a one-year wonder, selling VERY few copies. BUT, I believe it has a legit claim to being one of (if not the only) forerunner of every type of snow-going motorized vehicle that followed! These were powered by a one-cyl. 4.5-horse engine, and power to the ground came from a pronged rear "snow paddle" driven by the front engine via chains.

    Well, whether it was earliest or NOT, I can't find the actual photograph I saw months ago, so I'm wondering if one of you guys can. Reason: AmericanAutomobiles.com has put out an appeal for HELP finding such a photograph to enhance what little is known about this short-lived critter. Can we HELP 'em????


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    1905 American Motor Sleigh,
    thanks to AmericanAutomobiles.com
     
  18. I sure could use that this weekend here in the snowbelt of N.E. Ohio. The snow is piled up to my shoulders on either side of my drive after clearing the drive with my new 'Widow Maker" pusher snow shovel :eek:. Three times a day is getting to be a little too much for these 56 year old muscles. :D
     
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    1916 Signal Flatbed Truck

    Owner: Bradley Jackson &#8211; Jaffrey, NHEngine &#8211; Continental
    Differential &#8211; WormDrive
    Transmission &#8211; 3-speed
    Clutch &#8211; Multi-disk
    Capacity &#8211; 1.5 tons

    This Signal Truck was manufactured in Detroit, Michigan, in 1916. Its top speed is 17mph but it has a more comfortable ride at 12mph.
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  20. jimi'shemi291
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    Frank, I know what you're saying. Even here in Columbus, they say we broke the all-time snow record for February with something over 30 inches. I think I only shoveled 30 inches ALL of LAST winter!!! For some reason, Jimmy Buffet tunes keep runnin' through my head as I stare out a snow flakes falling! Nyuk, nyuk!
     
  21. Who's Frank?

    Mike
     
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    Isn't it Francis Michael? Hey, Bill, everybody makes mistakes. -- Signed, Irving :D <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
     
  23. I know I am getting quarter-zihmers. Not full blown ALL-zihmers.
     
  24. Officially 39.7" of snow here for Feb 2010, 50.9" for January 2010, 14.1 for Dec 2009
     
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    You know, Mike, BACK WHEN I was young, I used to wonder why so many old folks relocated to Florida or the Carolinas in retirement. My old, achey bones after all this shoveling have answered the mystery! -- Jimi
     
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    The Corvair was a car of firsts; first American domestic car with all 'round independent suspension, first to use a turbo-charger (along with Oldsmobile in the 1962 model year), first fold-down rear seat, etc., so it's no surprise that the Corvair was selected by GM for its early electric vehicle design exercises. Pictured here is Electrovair II, which was based on a 1966 Monza sport sedan. The first Electrovair was based on an early model, 1964 Monza sedan.
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    According to the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) paper #670175, "Electrovair - A Battery Electric Car," the 1964 Corvair was chosen for the first conversion to an electric drive.
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    Quoting from the SAE paper, "It was the lightest GM production car available, and its rear drive was ideal for a compact and simple motor installation. The problems encountered in Electrovair I suggested many basic improvements in the electric drive system. As a result we started on an improved motor control system. Soon it became apparent that building an entirely new car would be easier than upgrading the first car. Thus, the decision was made to build Electrovair II starting from a 1966 Corvair"
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    Jim Burkhard, well known Corvair owner, CORSA and Virtual Vairs Internet discussion group member, describes the SAE document as a "cool paper with lots of info on the challenges inherent with trying to make a practical electric vehicle; definitely recommended for anyone interested in the history of the vehicle." The paper is available for a small fee by requesting it by number from SAE. Contact information is available on the SAE web site: http://www.sae.org/
    At right, some of the touches that set the Electrovair dash apart from the production car. Large meters for monitoring volts and amps occupy the space normally reserved for the radio. The in-dash "gear" selector differs from the Powerglide selector in that it has no "L" for low. The chrome handle under the dash is for the emergency brake.
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    In this photo we see the electric drive. Electrovair II was powered by silver-zinc batteries in a 532 volt array driving a 115 hp AC-Induction motor. Top speed was 80 mph (129 kph) and range was 40 to 80 miles (64-129 kilometers). The 3400 lb (1542 kg) sedan could accelerate from 0-60 mph (0-96.56 kph) in 16 seconds. It's interesting to note the electric Corvair was almost 1,000 lbs heavier than the stock version. Control was Solid State.
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    Story text and photos (except high windshield SS) by Chris Happé. E-mail: chris.happe@rogers.com
    Thanks to Jim Burkhard for information on Electrovair I, and to Dean Campbell of the North Texas Corvair Association (NTCA) for the photo of the high windshield version of the SS.
    Note: Color photos on previous pages were digitally altered to compensate for fading due to age. Colors are not exact.

    Are you interested in more "inside" photos of Corvair-related design exercises? Click here for an "Extra!" section feature on famous designer Larry Shinoda and the development of the Corvair Astro I. The feature includes an excellent photo of the 176 cu. in. Corvair engine mentioned in the text of the Chris Happé feature.[​IMG]

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    It's sitting in the GM Heritage Museum in Sterling Heights Michigan.
     
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    1961 Chevrolet Corvair Sebring Spyder XP-737 Concept

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    Bill Mitchell driving a 1961 Corvair Sebring Spyder XP-737 Concept

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    The XP-737 Sebring Spyder was built in two basic versions by GM Styling, under Bill Mitchell&#8217;s direction, both based on the same car, and both with a wheelbase shortened 15-inches from the stock 108-inches. The first version was never shown to the public and the second version debuted at the Chicago Auto Show in February 1961.
    Named after Florida&#8217;s famous sport car track, the Sebring Spyder featured cut-down racing windscreens, racing mirrors, mag wheels with real knock-off hubs, stone guards over the headlights and a Paxton supercharger that was later replaced with a conventional exhaust driven turbocharger.
    Air ducts, just behind the doors directed air to the brake drums. A fiberglass tonneau cover, hinged directly behind the seats, covered the entire rear deck. The instrument cluster was the prototype for the production Spyder. The car was painted red with a white stripe.
     
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    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>This one, the Scoot-Mobile, just dropped out of the sky when I was surfing. I never, ever heard of it before, MAYBE because it was such an obscure car?

    Another one-year deal, designed and made in 1946 at the behest of Norman Anderson, Corunna, MI. (NOT to be confused with the AirScoot of '47, which we discussed a while back.) Supposedly, it was made mostly of left-over airplane parts and got up to 75 mpg. The little car had an automatic tranny, brakes on all three wheels and sold for $350, according to American-Automobiles.com -- which itself is looking for more details on this kooky little experimental. IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS CAR, IT WOULD BE KEEN IF WE COULD HELP American-Automobiles.com, which has a pretty darn keen website.
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    <CENTER>[​IMG] </CENTER><CENTER>Sincere thanks for this 1946 Scoot-Mobile photo </CENTER><CENTER>to American-Automobiles.com.</CENTER>
     
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