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  1. jimi'shemi291
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    Mac, yup, seems ONLY in the '30s -- when prospects loomed SO dark -- the spirit of creativity and hope burned brightly, indeed! What a time for DESIGN!!! Yow.

    All thanks to Jim-Bo for turning this up for review. AND when you see what shape it was FOUND in, well, you can't help but shake your head.

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  3. They do have some similarities, don't they. As late as the 1970's, Datsun 1200, the Austin influence was evident in the engine compartment, even some direct parts interchange.
     
  4. jimi'shemi291
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    The short-lived two-passenger Dile roadster of Reading,
    PA, should be remembered today for being a good, well-
    conceived car, and not for the fact that its main reason for
    existence was to run head-on competition against Ford's
    ubiquitous Model T.

    Sources vary a bit on just how long the smart little two-
    seaters were made, with records ranging from as early as
    1913 to as late as 1916, even 1917. Details aside, it does
    appear that the Dile auto had around three solid years in
    production, before assets were sold out to another Penn-
    sylvania company called "Belmount" of Lewistown (NOTE:
    There were four companies named Belmont in this era,
    though they made electrics).

    Some really attractive features made the (quote) "Distinc-
    tively Individual" Dile stand out among the mostly mun-
    dane cars of the day -- not the least being the under-$500
    price. The Dile had stylishly sporty lines, wire wheels and
    weighed under a thousand pounds riding on its pert 96-inch
    wheelbase. The 87-CID four-cylinder was quite ample for
    such a light car. The left drive was progressive for the day,
    and both passengers had plenty of comfortable space.

    There is a very nice Dile in the collection of the Boyertown
    Museum of Historical Vehicles, with color photos by auto
    enthusiast Bruno Costers. The most detailed info on the
    Dile auto seems to be on American-Automobile.com, which
    also has more, and detailed, photos.


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    1915 Dile, thanks to American-Automobiles.com

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  5. tlaferriere
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    I am listed as owning this car, however, I am not the owner and never was. Although it would fit nicely in my collection.
     
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    from USA

  7. jimi'shemi291
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    Hi, Tom! Thanks for the clarification; those things happen in trying
    to credit the proper folks, you know. BUT that Packard surely illus-
    trated the point, didn't it? Except for someone out to bash McCaulay
    styling, I don't think any fair-minded person would question the con-
    cept and the detailing on this keen car. LIKE YOU, I'D LOVE TO
    HAVE IT TO HAVE AND HOLD!!! LOL. Thanks for the post, man!
     
  8. jimi'shemi291
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    Hey there, WoogerOO!!! You are surely correct about the MOON !!! We had some fun looking into this make a few months ago, and there are a BUNCH of cool pix if you do a search of the thread (top of page). For MY money, the St. Louis MOON was every bit as stylish and snappy as the Kissel or the Jordan, in that same general era! WOWEE. (BTW, this Moon wasn't the only one to mimic the R/R radiator shell. The Barbarino did so, too. So far, NO HAMBer has come up with a pic of a Barbarino.)
     
  9. SUNROOFCORD
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    So, nobody wanted to guess what might be wrong with this '39 Chevrolet. Well, the most obvious is that Chevrolet never built a convertible in 1939 much less a club convertible with a back seat as this one is.

    The following paragraph comes from "How Stuff Works"

    Oddly enough, Chevrolet did not offer a cabriolet for 1939. Perhaps this omission should come as no surprise, since only 2,787 of the ragtops had been sold during the 1938 season, but it could hardly have pleased the dealers, who often liked to keep a convertible on the floor as a showroom attraction.

    If Chevrolet had built a convertible in 1939, it would of looked more like this '37 which is a pretty rare car itself.

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    This must be one of Jimis project cars. LOL :D
     

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  11. Hey guys- I've been one sick puppy all week or I would have spent some effort on the answer. I'm on 'roids, inhalers, and antibodics.

    Can't sleep well due to cough.
    Had a nice conversation with my dad a few nights ago. He has been not among the living since 1999. He told me he is not ready for me to come join him.

    Just checking in once in a while.

    Mike
     
  12. jimi'shemi291
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    Mike, sorry to hear you've been under the weather (and nearly "in the bag"!). Glad you can check in once in a while. Myself, I can sympathize, as I seem ALWAYS to catch something in my lungs every winter that stays for weeks, even months. I made it all the way to end-January without this time, and I thought I'd dodged the bullet for the winter. NOT! Got sick beg.-February and have had wracking cough, lethargy, crankiness, etc., ever since. Helps to make you stir-crazy when you feel lousy all the time, eh? What antibiotic has the doc got you on, man?
     
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    Jim-Bo, not saying I would have guessed right, BUT I goofed and missed the rumble seat. Given that Plymouth was the only '39 make with one in regular production, I should have gotten it. I'll just chalk it up to being sick & stir-crazy! LOL My excuse, and I'm sticking to it!!!

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    Hiya, SunRoofCord! Yeah, even in poor shape, that's a pretty scarce 'vert, nowdays. Between the Firedome (2-barrel) and the Fireflite (4-barrel), only between 1,000 and 1,500 were made. Unlike lighter Chevys & Fords, people tended not to save DeSotos, generally speaking. So, a convertible is relatively rare, making even that "parts" car worthy of saving. Gotta be some decent parts on there!

    By way of credit, I am not certain, but I think the above pix came from "HowStuffWorks."

    Oh, and, Jim, any idea WHERE that '55 DeSoto convertible is? Did/does it still have its engine in it?
     
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  16. jimi'shemi291
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    Here's a ONE-OFF concept Chrysler Plainsman wagon, bodied by Ghia in '55 about a year before the Norseman concept car went down off Nantucket with the Andria Doria cruise ship. One can see a number of style cues that speak to models of the mid-'50s -- including cues which showed up on later cars. As I understood the material I read at a couple of sites on the 'net, this unique car has been to Cuba (just pre-revolution), to Australia, and it is currently awaiting restoration in SoCal.

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    Photos taken by Darin Schnabel for RM Auctions and featured by SuperCars.net on the internet. Sincere appreciation is expressed for these rare images.
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    Not sure if this has been covered, but how about a 1911 Mercury truck? (not the FoMoCo Mercury brand)

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  19. Frank
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    Indiana truck:

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    1939 Model 4-door Cabriolet

    This is a 4-door convertible sedan converted probably from a Master 85 Sedan with stick floor-mounted gearshift, no "knee-action" front suspension and leather trim. These were converted by General Motors Continental, Antwerp, for Belgium and The Netherlands. The Plate on the car identifies it as a Model 1267, which is a Fisher Body Number for a Convertible Coupe. However, it should be be a Model 1229, which was a deluxe convertible sedan or Phaeton convertible: F.B. Vrijaldenhoven.

    From: THE INTERNATIONAL GENERAL MOTORS HISTORICAL SITE
     
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    TRAVEL IN VOGUE
    In an age of romantic and elegant travel, a 1936 Cord 810 is parked in the grounds of a luxurious hotel overlooking an exotic bay where the China Clipper has landed. A woman wearing an evening dress in the sleek "Vogue" style of the Thirties watches as the flying boat is serviced by the Pan Am engineers. This painting won the 2004 &#8220;Spirit of the Automobilist&#8221; Award at Meadow Brook Concours d&#8217;Elegance, Detroit.
     
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    The old De Soto gets some wood
     
  23. jimi'shemi291
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    Ahhhh-HEM!!! SEEMS as though Mike is on the road to recovery. He got his appettite back for ... DeSotos! LOL
     
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    Nice. Really captures the rose-colored essence of an era.
    Hope springs eternal, they say, and this is how many Americans
    wanted to see the world, even if it meant ignoring Depression
    realities. The same people who made Amelia Earhardt their
    darling and thrilled to the aerial exploits of Howard Hughes,
    ya know?

    Any idea, Mike, where somebody might obtain a print of this
    nice painting?
     
  25. jimi'shemi291
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    AJ, I have zero knowledge of this '49, but this is my sentimental favorite Packard year (grille, mainly), and THIS custom-bodied version is THE prettiest Packard I have seen!
     
  26. SUNROOFCORD
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    Desoto? What Desoto? I don't see any Desoto in that picture! LOL

    Glad every ones feeling better. Kind of a somber weekend for me when I realized it was a year ago Sunday, my Dad and I were on our last outing together before his sudden and unexpected passing last March 18th.

    Mike; Thanks for the picture of the '39 Chev 4 Door Convertibles. I knew they existed. You beat me to the punch. Thanks for the Cord picture too. I haven't seen that one before.

    Jimi; The restorable '55 Desoto Convertible was being advertised by a guy from Miltona Mn. who I see at all the swap meets throughout the year.

    cheapcars4sale.us/car-detail/<wbr>1955-DeSoto-Conv...

    Here's a picture of another Never Wuz, a 1941 Chevrolet 4 Door Convertible.
     

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  27. jimi'shemi291
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    SunRoof, I surely understand how the "anniversary" made you feel, as I have lost close loved ones. It, quite simply, changes the whole world, and you can't look at even daily things the same.

    I'd asked before ('cause I lost track of it) what POST the TRIBUTE to your dad was on. Can you enlighten me, or just post it again? A hard-bitten car guy (especially a Cord guy!) should be remembered and reminisced over.

    Hang in there, buddy. It's what your dad would want. God bless.
     
  28. jimi'shemi291
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    Since the rare Mercury truck came up, has ANYBODY heard of a 1946 Mercury Special, supposedly made by a fella names Paul Omohundro in Los Angeles? I can't find anything on it.
     
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  30. jimi'shemi291
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    Mike, thanks, man. That's a nice artwork.

    BTW, turns out the '46 "Mercury Special" reference I saw was rather inaccurate; the one-off car is more properly called a Kurtis-Omohundro Comet and rode on a Merc chassis w. Merc fatty V-8. It was built mainly in '46, finished in '47. Omohundro and Kurtis wanted to make molds of the alum.-bodied prototype and do multiple copies in fiberglass. HOWEVER, FoMoCo had its hands full with builidng stuff for themselves in that catch-up time and declined to supply any more rolling chasses for the venture.

    STILL, many inside the "car guy" circle feel this lays legit claim to being THE first post-war true sports car made in the U.S. -- even predating the Crosley Hotshot. Apparently it won a first-in-class in '09 at the Amelia Island concours. I think it's keep, 'cause in the rear it evokes Cords & the Y-Job while, overall, it somewhat resembles the Maverick and the Wildfire of the same era.

    I'll report back with pix after I can sort through all that's available.
     

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