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  1. swi66
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    Speedy Motor-Cycle Car

    WHETHER it’s a car or a motor cycle would be hard to say, but the inventor of the novel vehicle above declares it has the advantages of both. In motion, it rides upon two wheels, guided by a steering wheel. The driver experiences a pleasant swaying sensation as the machine tips like a plane or motor cycle for the turns. When the driver stops, a pedal lowers a pair of small auxiliary wheels at the sides for support. The photograph shows the odd gas buggy being driven by a mechanic in a tryout run at Miami, Fla. Another model has a seat for a passenger mounted behind that of the driver.
     

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    SWI, I am glad that jumped out at you. It was on my short list, though I didn't know previously that it was a cyclecar(?). Wiki & Clymer, though, did confirm the dates of manuf. (But, LOL, doesn't CENTAUR seem an imposing name for a horseless carriage?)

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    I ran across this one too.
    another Buffalo Built car I don't beleive I had on my list!
    1902 Centaur Runabout
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    SunRoofCord/Jim, I am glad you came to the rescue on Scirpps-Booth. Otherwise, people might actually think that crazy, red motorcycle/car? thing I posted the other day was their only venture into autos. In fact, they were around quite some years and built VARIOUS types of cars, trying to find a market niche.

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    [FONT=ms sans serif, geneva, helvetica, arial][SIZE=-2]1914 Scripps-Booth Cycle Car. Photo: Bill Vance[/SIZE][/FONT]​
     
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    Jim, from the general description, sounds as if the engineering principles were the same, even though separated by many dacades! Wow!

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    I didn't mean to infer it was a cyclecar, not sure if it was or not, but I did run across this in my search for Kearnes.
     
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    SWI, thanks man. It is GOOD to know that such a short-lived car SURVIVES -- AND in great condition!!! These pix clearly show the shaft drive and other advanced features! But, obviously, Kearns knew their own minds and where the money was to be made, so they didn't stay with these for long. Too bad, too, as they seem to be one of the BETTER "cyclecars."

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    Okay, SWI, and thanks. Sorry, I probably jumped to that conclusion. FOLKS! Fellow HAMBers, the Centaur was a conventional "horseless-carriage" type of car, not a cyclecar. Record straight now. Thanks again, SWI, for the quick catch, man.
     
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    DudleyBug was covered a few days ago, but I think I have another angle (of another car, diff. museum) on that "CarNation/Carnation." Lemme go find it.
     
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    MECHANIX ILLUSTRATED PIN-UP CAR

    1913 IMP CYCLECAR

    Owner: R. F. Clouse, Auburn, Ind. Engine: two-cylinder, air-cooled, 12 horsepower. Friction drive, four speeds forward. Sheet metal body over wood frame. Independent wheel suspension, no axles. Wheelbase 100 inches. Weight 600 pounds. Original price $375. Designed by William B. Stout.
     

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    1928 Indian Cyclecar Roadster
     

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    4t64rd HAMBER posted this on another thread some time back, God bless him! Almost extinct: 1913 Car-Nation in a museum in Jacksonville, FL,. There's one in the museum at Stone Mountain, GA, One in Indiana and there's a roadster in NY. It was a cyclecar and only built for 2 years 13-15. The only touring that actually runs (at least at the time it was restored, there were only 6 known to exist), was restored by my late friend Harold Walter, he bought it in boxes and restored it with brochures and photographs. Sold a AACA senior first place '13 T to finance it.

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    I don't know about anybody else, but I could "get into" one of these old-style cyclecars, electrics or steam cars -- and by that I mean strictly for an urban five-mile radius type of application.

    Hell, who knows? I really think these can have modern apps -- just as they did back when they were NEW. What goes around, maybe, could cme around again. However, I don't think people should expect these to run with gasoline-powered cars at 70-75, 'cause I can't picture the acceleration most impatient modern car owners would want.

    BUT, as for getting fro A to B, I think these cars would be hunky-dorry.
     
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    Hunky-Dorry

    a small boat of shallow draft with cross thwarts for seats and rowlocks for oars with which it is propelled

    Synonyms: Hungarian rowboat
     
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    Good time to bring out this nice photo, originally on Post 2553.
    Interesting, the differences between these '28 and '29 bodies!

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    1929 Indian two-seater roadster. Sincere appreciation is expressed
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    Hunky-Dorry
    (Now, ain't that a Lulu???)
    Nyuk, nyuk!
     
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    The Little Tomboy????
     
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    1948 Panhard Dynavia
    On back of photo: Panhard Dynavia Experimental
    Touio Motori photo
    Country FIAT


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    1966 PONTIAC Banshee
     
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    1953 LINCOLN XL-500
     
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    <table class="details fullwidth"><tbody><tr> <td align="right">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td>From the Estate of Mr. John O'Quinn</td> </tr> <tr> <td><table><tbody><tr><td class="title sIFR-replaced" width="80%"><object data="/Flash/sf_FuturaSTD-Light.swf" name="sIFR_replacement_12" id="sIFR_replacement_12" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" class="sIFR-flash" width="492" height="34"></object>1965 Ford Mustang Station Wagon

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    </td></tr> <tr> <td class="bold">AUCTION DATE:</td> </tr> <tr> <td>To be auctioned on
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    </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bold">OFFERED WITHOUT RESERVE</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="extrapad">This custom built Mustang Station Wagon features a modern 5.0L 302 cu. in. V8 with a four-speed transmission, power front disc brakes and steering, an AM radio, a bench seat with armrest, A/C, dual exhaust and a fiberglass hood.</td></tr></tbody></table>
     

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    Waverley Electric Coupe
     

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    Hard to find an actual Atturbury Truck.
    occasionally find an ad.
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    1911 Atterbury

    Pierce Arrow made trucks too!
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    Herre's an Atterbury Dump Truck
    1930
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    I apologize for the grainy newspaper photo, but this is the only phto I have turned up of Fleetwod, PA, craftsman James Hill 's 1868 steam car, making it the oldest U.S. self-propelled auto (as opposed to steam tractors or railroad engines). Supposedly, Hill continually worked on his car long after initial invention and, once, was banned from running it on the town's streets because it scared the horses that shared the thoroughfares. Much later, Hill reportedly converted the car from steam to gasoline-engine power.

    Sources differ on where Hill's car is today. One source states that it is in private hands, somewhere in Pennsylvania's Berks County.. And a Google site (news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1955&dat=19851013&id=qA4iAA) seems to indicate that is was acquired at some point by the historical vehicle museum of Boyertown, PA.

    SO! Anybody in HAMBland have any more info on this "elusive" FIRST U.S. car? OR, a better visual???
     
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    SunRoof, you seem to have hit on a SUPER-rare car in the Waverley Electric (Note: Not same as Pope-Waverley). Wikipedia's big list says they were made in two spates: 1898&#8211;1903 and 1909&#8211;1916. These are apparently QUITE scarce! Ya know there's trouble when old ads is about the best you can do!

    However, the Dougherty Museum in Boulder, CO, has a 1908 "Silent" Waverley -- sorry for the tiny pic. And here's an ad, too, for one of the EARLIER Waverley Electric cars. It is interesting that the 1902 ad notes that the autos were a "department" of the American Bicycle Co. of Indianapolis!

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    1908 "Silent" Waverly, Dougherty
    Museum, Boulder County, CO


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    1902 Waverley Electric Automobile
    Indianapolis, IN, thanks

    to American-Automobiles.com
     

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