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welding a pitman arm

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by brekteffect, Jul 5, 2009.

  1. That's the problem with this thread, too many wet blankets.


    (wet blanket statement)
     
  2. onlychevrolets
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    and you be careful about critisizing my post, a pitman arm has a bit more load force on it than a zipper...you think? Braze your zippers but not your pitman arms..
     
  3. Stllrng.
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    Oh yes, and in closing, I would like to add that brazing a pitman arm with br*** is wrong, I would never do it, no one should do it, but the one in the picture was on a car for 25 years. They did some things way back that took some balls. They made them run though. Nowadays though, I try and make every part the best and highest quality that I can. And no, I didn't braze the pitman arm in the first place..
     
  4. RichG
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    If I was criticizing your post, it was only to point out that BR*** is stronger than what people think. I don't think that someone should go out of their way to "braze" a pitman arm with it today, but back whenever that one was done it might have been a very viable solution, it doesn't look damaged to me, at least from the pictures...

    You didn't braze the pitman arm...got it:D

    With that said, I'm going to crawl back into my blanket fort and hide from the safety patrols:D
     
  5. HotRodDrummer
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    What did you build the fort out of? Hopefully not milk crates!! Ouch;)
     
  6. RichG
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    Nope! I went down to Schucks, asked for some motor tuning advice, and bottled it. I'm holding my fort up with hot air and nonsense...I could have used my own, but hey, my granddaddy always said "when you're gonna do somethin', use the best!":D
     
  7. milwscruffy
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    dumb is only dumb if you know what smart is.
     
  8. torchmann
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    Please read this technical excerpt and answer all question quickly as possible.
    Austenite
    <hr color="#3366ff"> Named for Sir W.C. Roberts Austen this is a solid solution structure in which gamma iron is the solvent with carbon or iron carbide as the solute.
    Austenite is the state of iron/carbon that most of the structures (martensite, pearlite, bainite etc...) used in bladesmithing are derived from.
    Upon heating to the temperature designated ac<sub>1</sub>alpha iron makes the allotropic shift from Body centered cubic to face centered cubic gamma iron. Gamma iron is capable of holding much more carbon in solution and begins to accept carbon into the iron atomic matrix.

    Holding higher amounts of carbon in solution in the FCC configuration causes austenite to be unstable at temperatures below ar<sub>1</sub>. Upon slow cooling carbon will diffuse to form pearlite from the parent austenite. If rapidly cooled austenite will be unable to diffuse carbon sufficiently enough to form pearlite and the result will be martensite or bainite depending upon the rate of cooling. In many ways austenite is the parent of the other microstructures, not only from the standpoint that the other structures arise from its decomposition but also that it provides the framework for some of their characteristics. Austenite leaves its affects and "finger print" in the form of the austenite grain boundary. Shape and size of the austenite grain will determine the rates of transformation through points of nucleation, or "toe holds" for transformations to begin. And this in turn will affect the formation of new austenite upon reheating to ac<sub>1</sub>. Steel with larger austenite grains tends to harden more deeply due to the reduction of nucleation points for the diffusion of pearlite to begin. The drawback is that larger grains make steel much more weak and brittle. For bladesmithing the greater of these two evils is the brittleness so large grains and grain growth is to be avoided whenever possible. Austenite grain growth occurs when the steel is heated beyond ac<sub>1</sub> and ac<sub>m</sub> (the point at which the extra cemen***e is dissolved), and increases with temperature. The larger austenite grains will grow at the expense of the smaller grains. So time at these elevated temperatures should be carefully watched and kept to a minimum. When heating a steel to ac<sub>1</sub><sub>3</sub> or ac<sub>m</sub> and there is complete austenite.
    the shift to gamma iron will allow any pearlite to be dissolved and form new austenite grains. These new grains will be slightly finer and within the previous boundaries due to increased nucleation. As temperature increases the proeutectoid ferrite (if the steel is hypoeutectoid) or proeutectoid cemen***e (if the steel is hypereutectoid) will be dissolved until ac

    Questions:
    1: What is the accepted color of a hot rod wheel?
    (a)red (b)black (c)clear

    2: How often should you rotate your corn and bean crops?
    (a)next year (b)every 3 years (c) every day

    3: What is the best way to weld?
    (a) weld good (b)weld more (c)weld more gooder

    4: How many beers come in a six-pack?
    (a)Shinerbock (b)Milwaukees Best's (c)Night Train

    5: In what year did we put a man on the moon
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  9. milwscruffy
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    Have read thru this and didn't happen to see any questions. But it is a fine statement and glad i took chemistry in high school.
     
  10. torchmann
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    Fear: The lack of knowledge
    Knowledge: The lack of confusion
    Hubris: The lack of both fear and knowledge
     
  11. milwscruffy
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    Glad i went to school, 1)a 2)b 3)after much debate c 4)wouldn't know never do less than a 12 pack which then the answer would be pabst blue ribbon 5)HOLY **** WE PUT A MAN ON THE MOON? QUICK GO GET HIM !!!
     
  12. plym49
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    Now that's funny.
     
  13. budd
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    this is the dumbest thread i have ever seen on this site..
     
  14. RichG
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    You sir, obviously missed the dryer sheet thread:D
     
  15. budd
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    the dryer sheet thread had some good tips, this thread has nothing.
     
  16. torchmann
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    it had the throw the hot welded part in a bucket of oildry tip, never heard that one before.

    Tip: use a dryer sheet to remove the soil from the part before welding and to tame obnoxious welding fumes. if the weldment fails, dryersheets and spray adhesive may be used to bandage the failed parts until repairs can be made.
     
  17. krooser
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    You can't hang a tree freshener from a mirror 'cuz it's cast and blowing around in the wind will make it crack...
     

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