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Well......the bastard(s) nearly got in!!

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  1. BillBallingerSr
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    I have sensors on both the overhead and man door tied to my alarm. It gives you thirty seconds to get to the keypad, which is in the house and it automatically dials the cops who are two blocks away. My patio doors go off immediately if opened and the cops come. A well thought out alarm goes a long way. You can also set a cross beam in your driveway that if broken dials the cops as a soft code to dispatch for a patrol. You enable and disable it with a keyfob, or you can set it from the inside on the keypad.

    Another thing you can do is a sonic alarm. If its set and there is a noise like talking, or a car starting up, it goes off through the rest of the alarm calling the cops along with the normal heartstopping shriek.

    Video cameras work well too, as well as a one way door vestibule that triggers the alarm. If they get in the first door, a steel plate drops like a deadbolt outside and it locks them in and sets the alarm off.
     
  2. f1 fred
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    I love this! a rat trap!
     
  3. hustlinhillbilly
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    Used to manage a hardware store in the Dayton area. There was a rash of pukes ramming the loading door with a stolen car and then emptying the stores into the second vehicle. So we would park our 6 ton forklift about 2 inches from the door everynight. Sure enough, one night they tried our store. I'd have given a weeks pay to see the look on the creeps face when he slammed the rear door and it only went in 2 inches before it abruptly stopped. He hit it hard enough, that when they found the vehicle, it had broken the seat from the mounting rails.

    On the big name company dialer alarm systems........... they're only as good as the people monitoring them. It ain't like they show on T.V. When I was still a Cop, we would get the calls from the alarm companies anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes after they got the alarm drop. The monitoring station was in Maryland, and the business was in Ohio. The pukes would be long gone, before we even got notified. The ones that make a boatload of noise, lots of flashing lights and call the actual owner are the ones that I would recommend. You can call the Cops on your way to the shop. Just make sure that it's loud enough to piss off the neighbors, so they will call also.

    One other thing, every first thaw and first freeze, go around and check the alignment of the sensor magnets. Things shift and you get lots of false alarms.
     
  4. 61bone
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    Ya can't keep them out if they really want in. My 130 db alarm will keep them in though. 5 seconds of it will put you on your knees and bleeding from the ears follows close behind along with being incapacitated. 140 db can be fatal after a short term exposure.A couple tests had the neighbors from a block away calling in minutes. Dog didn't come home for two days. Ear plugs don't help, know from experience. You can kill the power to the whole place and it won't shut off. Hidden switch is the only way and it takes me about 5 minutes to get to it. Shame the goobers have to suffer that long. Only one of the ten sensors works. You figure out which one it is. Bet ya can't do it before you fall down. All doors and windows have a large sign that says High intensity alarm will cause hearing loss and physical injury.
     
  5. SlamCouver
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    "Just make sure if ya shootem, killem!
    You don't want him contradicting yer story!:cool:"

    Also don't point a weapon at somebody unless you intend to kill them. its a last resort.

     
  6. lostn51
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    Well I have been lucky about not being broken into, but my next door neighbor wasnt as lucky.

    It happened at 8am, with everyone at work and school in broad daylight. My wife and I are retired so we are always here, but one morning my dogs were going nuts and I heard a big bang like someone shutting a car door real hard. I looked out my window at my drive and no one was there so I just wrote it off, as the house across from me had a contractor installing floors. 30 minutes later I go out to my shop and there is a swarm of cop cars, and one of them was coming up my driveway. He asked the usuall questions, but informed me there was a ring of thefts going from neighborhood to neighborhood all in the light of day and it didnt matter if you had an alarm or not.

    About a week later I was raking leaves and a guy in an SUV pulls up asking me if I saw anyone running down the street. Come to find out it was an undercover officer that has been working my neigborhood keeping an eye out for these ****heads and caught them in the process of pilfering in someones home, but one of them got away.
     
  7. BillBallingerSr
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    Thats a good point. Fortunately mine is all local and is monitored from an office 24/7 in central dispatch like all of the businesses are (like the banks even). Because of my health, I have one channel set specifically for medical or panic on a fob I keep with me all the time. I can't see very well, and I have siezures so they get on over here. Its a small town, pretty good setup really. My alarm guy is really good about checking the sensors. Mine is really loud too, and the outside door lights will strobe.
     
  8. stude_trucks
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    I suggest a real alarm service. Cops will respond to them but won't a personal alarm that calls yourself. I tired the personal alarm and it was lame and the cops were pissed at the 2 false alarms and they told me to get a real system or they won't be coming back anymore. Best to let the real alarm catch them and then the cops get there asap and deal with them instead of you getting shot or knifed.
     
  9. phukinartie
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    mini remote bombs
     
  10. dirty old man
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    My shop is about 1.25 miles from my home and "inna hood". I've owned the bldg since '86 and had 3 burglaries and a couple unsuccessful attempts before installing the security system 7-8 years ago, none since. It's a monitored system with trip switches on walk in and roll up doors and the hatch on the exhaust fan, and a motion detector so sensitive it has been triggered by mice when I had a problem that I solved with poison bait. Also has a heat detector fire alarm. Can't use a noise trigger as the sidewalk is only 20 ft from the bldg front.
    When I put the system in I had an almost 7 day a week side business there and used the business phone line to connect with the monitoring service. Once I sold the inventory and eguipment used in the side business, the business line @ $70 per month plus the monitoing svc. @$19 got to be a burden.
    Then I found out about the cell phone system from another Co. They used all my sensors, added the fire alarm, and installed a cell phone dedicated to calling the monitoring svc. The change over cost me about $1000, but my total cost per month for monitoring and the cell phone is down to under $20 per month! So do the math and you find the system paying for itself in 14 months and then a cost reduction of about $70 per month. Plus you don't have to worry about a burglar cutting the phone line and coming in with the alarm only being audible w/o monitor svc notification. So far so good, and I think it was a good move.
    Dave
     
  11. repoguy
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    Best security system money can buy right here.

    ..hell, they're giving 'em away for nearly free at the pound.


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    A shotgun, or any gun for that matter, ain't gonna do you much good if you don't sleep at the shop. In fact, it'll be the first thing they steal!

    A good dog is the way to go....and you even get a good friend that you can depend on out of the deal.
     
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  12. if you want to do what dirty abouve mentions you can save money on the hardware part by doing it yourself. Most larger areas have a decent electronics supply houses that sell all the alarm bits such as sensors and such. I see guys from several alarm companies at ours whenever I go there. Get it all wired in and then go shopping around for a service to hook up to!
     
  13. custom50
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    Not all but a lot of the break-ins are from people livening in the area.

    This has worked for me so far. We live in the country the house cannot be seen from the road. We had trouble in the beginning with hunters coming on the property. One day I approached one of the hunters who lived near us. He had that ****y at***ude held his shotgun by the barrel, the **** end on the ground while leaning against one of my trees. I told him he was on private property, he said his was on the property line, I said no he wasn’t. He still had the ****y at***ude, so I pulled my 9 mill from my back pocket and said I do a lot of target shooting and I never know what I may shoot at and started firing, His at***ude changed. I asked if anyone was with him he said yes. I started shooting again, and said you better get him. He took off pretty quick. The killer was my wife heard the shots, and was concerned for me; she drove a little Cavalier into the woods doing a number on the oil pan. She saw the hunter, and asked if he had seen me? He said yes. The neighbors think I’m crazy, and that’s the way I like it. You can’t do that in the city but you can make the neighbors think your nuts. No one wants to mess with a nut. We have a Cat name Rambo, and just for the hell of it I will walk through the property calling for RAMBO.

    I don’t want to have to shoot anyone but if they come through the door with me inside, one of us will be in trouble.
     
  14. charkol
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    a back up generator for all your bells and whistles just incase they are smart enought to cut any power most alarm systems can run off a trickle charge from your phone line just a thought
     
  15. Alfster
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    I read somewhere one time (I think on here) about a guy that had six locks on his garage door. He always left one of them unlocked then if someone was picking the locks as they went through them they were always locking one of them.
     
  16. repoguy
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    The phone line is usually one of the first things they cut, that way the security system can't call the cops.
     
  17. patrick66
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    Dogs, guns, lights, noise, cell phone, and making **** hard for the bad guy. If you have those elements integrated into your security system, you are ready for just about everything.:eek:
     
  18. dirty old man
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    My system has a battery backup that will handle things for about 8 hrs.
    Dave
     
  19. 49ratfink
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    a shop around the corner was broken into and they stole some new generators they had recently purchased. they byp***ed the door locks by unscrewing the metal panels that make up the walls of the building and removing them.

    not too many inside thefts areound here, but they come and steal anything outside that is not bolted down. stole my OT car once, and burgled my motorhome on a sunday afternoon.
     
  20. My garage is very close to my house..................I have a motion light inside the shop with a 150W bulb on one side and my stereo system attached to the other, very bright and very loud with any movement. Also have a baby monitor in the shop so if I'm sleeping I can hear the stereo.......the monitor works so well I can hear people talking on the street 100 feet away!
     
  21. sharkfin
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    Hi RepoGuy - Is that an American Bulldog? I've got a 4 year old male that is weighing in at about 90 pounds. Best dog ever. They are extremely protective. We also have a little dog. A 70 pound Pitbull mix. Between the dogs and the Harleys at the house, no one messes with my stuff!
     
  22. Thumper
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    12 Gauge slugs and Claymores......**** 'em !
     
  23. Dr.Kerry
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    2X8 with a hinge at the base of the door, spring under the other end, with two spikes at eye level, Opens door, spring extends, 2X8 swings upward and GOTCHA right in the dome!!!!

    Thieves ****, they wouldn't want to come to my house, I'd beat them within' an inch of their dirt *** lives!!!!!
     
  24. Squablow
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    My dad is a contractor, a house he was building got broken into recently. Someone beat the hell out of the outside doorknob, they must have had a big hammer or something, but couldn't break it, so they broke out a garage window and crawled in. The gl*** cut the guy to ribbons, blood everywhere. There was a new TV in a box that was visible through a window, they figure the guy was trying to steal it, but he didn't take anything, must have been bleeding really bad and bailed.

    Not really related but might make you feel better.
     
  25. 73RR
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    Sorry, but I might just have a combat relapse, ya know from all of the excitement and such, and just kill them...Officer, I swear, he said he was going to kill me...dead men simply do not talk.

    .
     
  26. junkmonger
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    How about moving to a decent neighborhood? I can leave my garage door wide open and nobody messes with my stuff because I have good neighbors that look out for me and I look out for them. Works better than all the alarms and dogs and guns in the world (but they have those too).
     
  27. TagMan
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    Can't wait to read your thread, AFTER you get ripped off!! :D
     
  28. CoolHand
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    Actually, the one I have would.

    The company polls the phone line every several mins and will start the alert protocols if they cannot contact the unit.

    They called me once when we were working on the phone system (the first in a long line of calls that get made when the alarm goes off) to ask if everything was Ok, and if they should proceed with calling the cops, 'cause the unit could not be reached.

    I've got it set up so that they call me within 30 secs of an activation, and then the police if I'm not the cause of the alarm (or if they can't reach me).

    That keeps the fuzz from making false runs, but still makes sure they get there if they need to be.

    I don't have a lot of faith that they'll show up in time to stop anything though, so I have two 150 dB alarm sirens. One pointed right at the door, and one inside the office. Both will make you **** yourself in short order, and do anything at all to get away from the noise. It is so loud it hurts.
     
  29. stude_trucks
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    ^^^yeah, that is how a real monitored alarm works and same if the power is lost and even if I try to change the battery in one of the wireless sensors. They will call and if you don't answer and/or give them the proper info., they call the cops. And here at least, they show up pretty quickly as long as you don't have a bad history of false alarms. Big plus on the loud outside horns or bells and lights.

    Also, like most new buildings, the power and phone lines come in under ground in pipes. So, unless they want to start excavating, they aren't cutting those.

    Dogs are ok, but if you think having a dog is cheaper or easier than getting a monitored alarm service, you should do the math. Dogs don't come cheap and hard to leave them for extended times without somebody taking care of them. Dogs don't do well against guns. Alarms fare a little better.

    Also, good to have actual theft insurance as well so you can relax and not get yourself in a situation that finds you in jail after you give these *** hats what they really deserve.
     
  30. carlos
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    Lowes sells a motion detector that will beep 3 times in your house and turn your bedroom light on and it is wireless and cheap,that and a good dog outside and a lap dog in the house when the little one in the house hears the one outside rasing hell he starts barking in the house,then you get up grab your 22 loaded with bird shot shoot there *** off.
     
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