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Technical What are the differences between 3w and a 5w 1932 coupe?

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by KEEPITMOSTLYSTOCK, Oct 5, 2018.

  1. 62rebel
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    And that is what I call getting edyoocated quickly!
     
  2. 5window
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    Although everyone has a personal preference, I prefer the look of the 5 window. However, I think the reason for the three window's popularity is that the bigger doors allow today's hotrodder to fit inside better. Look at folks in the 1930's. They were shorter, and way thinner than we are today.
     
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  3. Or more. HRP
     
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  4. Nope, a entirely different fender. HRP
     
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  5. Wheeliedave
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    Ok, oops!


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    I see you still have a little bit more to learn..........:)



    So what are you looking at, a 3 window or the more desirable 5 window ?



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  8. Andy
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    Back in the day, 5W's were uses as doners for roadsters. Roadsters were channelled and 5W pans were used to fix them.
     
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    Regarding the coupe and roadster fenders being the same as well as the sedan, phaeton thanks for the info. Just as I thought but I checked anyway as you never know about all the differences on these cars. I have a few front fenders that are repairable but my 5W rear fenders will be a challenge. I do have some sedan rears that I thought I might splice onto the coupes fenders but now having second thoughts as the sedan fenders are difficult to find so I might feel bad about using them as patch panels.
     
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    More room....
     
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  11. KEEPITMOSTLYSTOCK
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    Very similar program to Model A except for pick ups I guess


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  12. rustythumb
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    i've read that pointy door handles were found to catch on drivers sleeves when turning wheel [on all models except 3-windows] so "pointies were used up on 3-windows 'till supply was gone]
     
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    All 14 body styles in 32 used the same frame including the pickup. Rear fenders varied between models. V8s didn't come out till March 1932. Pickups were never offered with a V8. 3 window, only one with chrome windshield. Also the longest body, that is why notch by fuel filler. 3 window was deluxe model, came with all windows safety glass. Cigar lighter, ash tray in glove box, better interior. Was called Deluxe coupe by Ford, not 3 window.
     
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  14. I believe all 32's came with black frame, fenders, firewall and gas tank.

    Mick
     
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  15. According to the Early Ford V8 Club of America, windshield frames on deluxe phaetons, deluxe roadsters, cabriolets, convertible sedans and deluxe coupes were chrome plated.
     
  16. alchemy
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    Yes. Black dipped parts, not sprayed. Even the fenders. Amazing, huh? I had a very early take off 33 fender once and you could still see the drips on the underside.
     
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  17. Fortunateson
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    Same frames but different. Early, late, and really late!
     
  18. sloppy jalopies
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    alchemy is right...
    the pick up rear fenders are about 1/2" wider than coupe/roadster...
    old geezer told me that... I had to check it out... he's right !
    …. oops... I meant model As... sorry
     
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    up to '33 had black fenders... '34's were body color.
     
  20. I'm fairly certain that the pickup fenders are narrower than the coupe/roadster. By how much, I don't know as I've never bothered to measure.

    The coupe/roadster fenders can be turned into sedan fenders fairly easily. However, to turn a coupe fender into a pickup fender would be much more work as the shape (curvature) from interior to exterior edges is different. The pickup fenders also have an add-on "flange" at the leading edge to tuck under the bed and meet the frame.
     
  21. deathrowdave
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    Not wanting to make waves , but I’m sure they are same Pick Up , Coupe , Roadster . For all you people that bought pickup fenders and them weren’t correct , I’ll take the junk
     
  22. sloppy jalopies
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    d dave,
    i'll post pix of one sitting atop the other tuesday... they are not the same, even though I have been told different for 35 years...
    …. sorry that is for A rear fenders...
     
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  23. deathrowdave
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    I have only seen them sold as same , but I’ll take a couple of the ones people bought incorrectly ! Not a pro at this , just listen to what people say . 1/2 in wider truck fender may help many out . I have 255 70 15 tire tucked under my fenders I know not early , just sayin . My next wheel change is for 16s and steelies , just lookin for a couple wide hoops to build a set of rears out of . This forum is a vast info space for help , so great to know there are that many great people willing to discuss and share info on our hobby . I was just telling a buddy at a show over the weekend , “ look around everyone here has gray hair and a smile on his face , I never ran into a sour puss car guy . Everyone tries to help and share info and a laugh or two .”
     
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    Wavey Dave ? Call me anything but a Squid ! I ain’t queer and I don’t wear white ! LOL
     
  25. alchemy
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    Sorry Wavey, I had spent too much time typing. You do now realize the coupe/roadster is different than pickup.
     
  26. deathrowdave
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    Yes , It has been explained , by knowing people . I just said I had always been told and seen them sold as same , I guess by unknowing people same as me thinking they were the same . Ok will a truck fender bolt to coupe and roadster body same as correct fender does ? This would be great info . I’m sorry if I offended anyone , I’m not 100 % perfect or I wouldn’t be playin with toys at near 60 . I’m just trying to learn and pass on and have a bit of fun doing it . Maybe a chuckle or two , in today’s world isn’t so bad .
     
  27. alchemy
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    They look very similar but won't interchange. Other than the general arch being slightly wrong, a pickup has a spacer on the lower front inside to take up the space next to the frame.
     
  28. deathrowdave
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    I know locally to me a 80 year old man has a 32 Truck starched in the basement , beat up almost beyond repair . It was used for a truck in the rust belt we survive in . He is wantin to find better sheet metal for it . I told him coupe , roadster , truck the same . I feel bad for passin on bad info , I will stop and tell him differently now that I know . I’m almost sure his frame has no reveal in the side also . Is this possible? Or why the spacer is needed or maybe he has an incorrect frame ?
     
  29. Andy
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    The added part to the front of the fender is needed because the bed is wider than the car bodies. It takes up the gap. The p u fenders are different where they fit to the bed. They are flatter and have a sharp bend to fit to the flat sides of the bed.
    FYI, 32 pick up fenders are not the same as 33-34 p u fenders. The frames are different so the fenders are different.
    A frame with flat sides indicates a 33-34 frame.
     
  30. KEEPITMOSTLYSTOCK
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    Been looking at complete cars that are 5 windows but neither one are drawing me in
    I may have to complete one myself
    Found 2 projects a 3W kind of complete
    And a 5 window basket case of 2 cars, like to find something closer to completed
    I definitely know what I want. Just got to stir one up.
    5 or 3 will be good


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