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Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by Barbarian, Jun 8, 2023.

  1. Barbarian
    Joined: May 5, 2019
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    Period correct pre-50, what are the must haves on an early custom? In my mind it starts with the following: skirts, rear low but front hanging higher maybe just a bit under stock, unique bumpers like 37 desoto, shaved, decked, Carson top or chopped padded folding top…..what else
     
  2. 62rebel
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    Predominately white upholstery, color accented to the body color, louvers, Appleton spotlights... wide whitewalls... SHINY paint, SHINY chrome.... bumpers tucked close to the body, continental spare in a body color cover, never out in the open.
     
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  4. 2OLD2FAST
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    ?
     
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  5. BamaMav
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    You forgot the fuzzy dice :rolleyes::D
     
  6. guthriesmith
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    My plan isn’t necessarily pre-50 (more like 53 since that is what year the engine is) but lines up with much of what has been mentioned. Tail dragger stance, chopped, shaved, decked, skirts, most likely white interior with accents toward body color, maybe spotlights (still undecided on this one), wide white bias tires, period correct engine (331 Caddy in my case), and a solid color paint that would have been correct for the era.
     
  7. pgj
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    Yea, cause that's the point of a custom, having them all look alike,
     
  8. 62rebel
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    Hey, it's not a recipe for Beef Wellington, you can leave off or add in the stuff that fits your concept. A rear mounted spare helps break up the line on some cars that look too long in the tail. Gotta be snug up to the body, though. Not an air brake for a 747.
     
  9. 210superair
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    While I agree, if he's aiming for a specific era look, I get what he's doing.
     
  10. Must haves pre 50?
    No metallic paint
    Restored stock chassis using old lowering methods. Drum brakes, original suspension with mods like spring spacers, de-arched or reversed eye springs, stretched axle, flattened x member, zd, channeled ……..
    Old engines and trans. Flathead in a ford, straight 6 in a Chevy ……….
    Old style interior materials and old style stitching.
     
  11. ekimneirbo
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    I think the best approach is to figure how to attain an overall "look" and then select whichever components will compliment that look. Not all items are "must haves" for all cars. It varies with the vehicle you want to customize and how you assemble those items to compliment one another. I've seen some mild customs that had very few things done and yet looked great.
     
  12. Barbarian
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    Exactly this. If I wanted to copy another car, I would just do that and not ask this question because then I'd have the recipe already....

    I started this to strike up a conversation on the era correctness of early customs. I think there are areas such as louvers that sometimes point more towards a hot rod than a custom, but that's just my opinion and unsure if that's true to back in the day.
     
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  13. go to https://www.customcarchronicle.com/ and start studying?
    Also pick an era, all eras and regions have different taste/ taste levels. Thus the Continental kit.
    A lot of pics of the early stuff is in B&W so interiors might be lighter colors. No necessarily white, so lie off white, tan, like colors. with contrast.
     
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  14. 62rebel
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    it has to start with a '36 Ford coupe....... THAT'S not negotiable imho
     
  15. texasred
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    "Back in The Day" nothing was period correct, it was more like monkey see monkey do
     
  16. 62rebel
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    ^^^ that might be the bitterest pill we've had to take! It took time and imagination to develop style that stayed.... and some fellas tried everything before it "stuck"....
     
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  17. Yep. Just use old parts and colors.
    Then you have the look
     
  18. Metallic paint was definitely being used before the 1950's. Both the Ayala and Barris and I am sure others were mixing gold powder into their paint which created metallic paints.

    It may not have been available commercially but it was definitely being used.
     
  19. Wide whites and hubcaps. Dual exhaust? No spots for me. Yup white tuck and roll? upholstery. No one mentioned fringe balls. Not sure about scallops or pinstripes- I was born in 1962.
     
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  20. IMG_6151.jpeg

    This , and if I find them Appleton spot lights , better mirrors and a hood full of louvres would get me a bit happier .:D


    I’m on the fence with the bumper over riders and @lothiandon1940 I got one fog light that’s going on the week end :eek:
     
  21. ^ @VANDENPLAS Those wheels covers are obviously too new for a pre 50's custom.;)
     
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  22. @X38 they look better and are more period correct then the stupid wheels they are covering !:D
     
  23. 6sally6
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    Don't forget the decals of half naked dream girls...stuck on the wing windows.... RED painted reversed rims...
    glass packs/steel packs mufflers (or none at all) Wiggly hula girl on the dash....nodding dog in the rear window.
    Lake pipes that almost drag the ground.....curb feelers....?
    6sally6
     
  24. Tow Truck Tom
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    If a soft top, Model A roadster rear window.
    Dual glaspaks,
     
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  25. 2OLD2FAST
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    All it took to " stick" was the right journalist(s) to heap on the praise get the pics in print , so they could tell folks what was kool , that way the folks who had the best chance of profiting would sponsor the mags.
     
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  26. To me the answer is easy. Study Westergard style customs and you can't go wrong.
     
  27. Oh no, post 25 is taking us straight to the JCW catalogue.:eek:
    I thought the subject was pre 1950 customs, not gook wagons.:(
     
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  28. alanp561
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    Just look at that beauty sitting there surrounded by all those OT grocery getters. Shines like a diamond in a goat's ass ;)
     
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