What can you tell me about the Ford 460?

460 Ford big blocks? any inherent problems? do they make decent power?

 

i have a 460 too. i haven't started to build it yet. i'm still in the planning stage. check out this link. i go there to see what there talking about sometimes.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=53

 

You can make decent power with one for reasonable cost, but making over 500 hp will probably take some $$$$.

They're kind of big and bulky, and they don't look as nice as some of the other engines, but if you have a car that it'll fit in and you have a line on a motor, then it may be the way to go. Beware the front oil pump location.

 

My stock 73 engine (low compression) pushes my 49 Merc thru the lites at 90 plus MPH under 15 seconds, in drive. Not bad for a big boat......OLDBEET

 

I have heard the major downfall for FE engines is their heads are really restrictive and don't let the motor breath too well when trying to make more power.


Geno

 

460s ain't F E engines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...............OLDBEET

 

got a possible line on a complete one that is supposed to have run when pulled form the car. thinking about sticking it in a 63 rambler g***er project!

 

As Beet says, they're not FE's BUT Geno is correct that many of these engines ARE restrictive because most were produced in the early 'smog years' when companies were trying to get 5,000 pound behemoths down the road with some performance while attempting some of the seminal 'emission controls'.

Any 460 that runs make decent power because of its size. They can be made more efficient (therefore faster) with good machine work and a few bolt ons. But like has been said before, if you want to make the same power as a BB Chrysler or some such, it's gonna cost you a bit more.

Hope this helps.

 

when ya change the timing chain, (you WERE going to change it weren't you )install one from a 70 429. The 460 from 'bout 73 up were retarded by about 6 degrees from the factory....cheap trick that will wake one up

 

That could be fun. if you put an axle under the front you won't have to worry about clearance. Should make a neat car!

 

Mikey Boy is correct!

Once you have made that change in it's self, these old dinasaurs really come to life. You'll be happy with the results...just keep it on the mild side, and you'll have all kinds of torque to play with....besides, your not trying to go out and qualify for Pro-Stock at the Nationals!

 

Those engines are about as reliable as....
and can be built to....

 

Make power maybe you better start out with a 300 6 cly and work your way up son.I dont want you to get scared.What you gonna put a 460 in?Put and offset ground crank and a good set of piston in it it will run. You want to find a 70 or down DOVE block from a 429 if your gonna build real power if not you will be okay with the regular 460 block. Go thru and open up all the oil p***ages and do some other tricks here and there and she'll live. Not bad for a Mopar guy huh Heath. When you get ready to build this I got the right guy for you he runs a dragster with a big inch ford motor.I can probably even fix you up with some go fast goodies.

Later Shoe

 

Heath, I can tell you that you are a ***.

 

That's DOVE heads.

 

thanks for the info fellas. it's kinda between this and a 360 AMC. i KNOW the 360 runs. not sure about the 460 ford.

 

takes one to know one there ***plowboy. hahaha!!!!

 

That must be why he wants to always go to the bar across the street from the lockerbie pub instead in Indy. Thanks Plowboy I never made the connection.LOL
Later Shoe

 

Yes that would also be the heads from 1970 429 too.The dove block is also the casting number you are looking for in a 429 as the webbing is thicker and it has more nickel content.The best block is probl th c9 which stands for 1969 but they are alot harder to come by.If your really going to build some power the boss 429 block would be the best but those are for the rich guys.Once agian Heath my friend has raced fords forever and I can probl help you alot He is part of the famous Ulrey bros who were sponsered by ford thru the 60's and 70's.See the history of super stock racing book it has some pics of their lightwieght cars in it.So if you want to make that nash run with ford power we got you covered.

 

The best place for info on the 460 is www.network54.com/Forum/85220 Look up the 385 engine series forum. 385 is the engine family for the 370, 429, and 460 Fords.

 

From what i've heard they were a little weak and their weight kind of cancelled out the benefits of their size. I have no personal experience with em though so thats just what Ive heard from others.

 

Those that say they are weak, too heavy etc, just don't know!!! Here is mine, 78 460 block and crank, C8VE heads with a 1970 Hollman Moody 2x4 set up, full roller timing ***embly etc, Dynoed at 725 horse 5400rpm, 660 ft lbs torque @ 4800 rpm, yes that is pushing a big block LIMA ford, and I will never use the full potential in my 56 panel truck, but it is there if I ever want it!!! I also have less than $4000, less intake carbs and cleaners, in it. Not bad considering building costs of other engines!!

 

Now thats what I'm talkin about I am a mopar guy but that motor dont know what name is on the outside if you chose a direction stick to it match parts and realize the limtations of your combination you can make anything preform well.How many small block chevys make that kinda power for much less money if any.Good Job Trailer Ed for bein different.
Later Shoe

 

well, i've done it now. i've purchased a running 460 and ****** for 100 bucks. it's from a '77 lincoln. should be a C-6 right? now then am i correct in thinking that the 429/460 is the same block and heads? say if i found an intake i wanted and it said 429 ford on the tag, it would fit on a 460?

 

Yes and yes. The 429 and 460 share the same block and heads. The difference is in the stroke and wrist pin location. The intake manifolds all interchange as well as all the other parts. May I ask what you intend to run this engine in, I may be able to help you with some of the details. BTW this engine is probably one of the cheapest and easiest routes to 500+ hp you'll ever find. Good luck!

 

congrats!

the 429 and 460 are the same design. Just make sure it's not a Boss 429 intake, that probably won't work on your 460!

The 77 ****** should be a C6.

 

P.S. I have a 460 I plucked from a `70 Lincoln recently. I've got two Flatty's I'm in the process of building for friends, then I'm gonna fix up the 460 for myself.

 

Thanks Squirrel I did'nt think of the Boss 429 hemi when I wrote my reply.

 

it's going in a '63 Rambler 2 door sedan. my g***er project. i already have the front axle and some other stuff. i'm going to need header flange kits or a source for some fender well headers. it should make the rambler scoot right along! still need a good beefy rearend that will hold up to the 460 also.

 

You will need ****** #11666 welded stub flange. It will set you back about $150 from Jeg's.

Stan at Ford Powertain makes very nice shorties. He might have something that will work for you.

http://www.fordpowertrain.com/Headers.htm