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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by turbo84gn, Sep 17, 2024.

  1. Cool.
    Have fun
     
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  2. 49ratfink
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    I find it kind of sad that so many suggest bondo or fiberglass.

    as stated remove the panel then while you have it out you can get the rust off the insides and backsides.
     
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  3. Guy asks how to fix it

    Try to weld it in the cab
    Remove and repair
    Fab a new panel
    Fill it with something

    all depends on goals and skills.


    for me, I’d cruise it as is
    for a customer, I’d remove and repair.

    But I’m not losing any sleep if he kitty hairs it
     
  4. ALLDONE
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    yes and 45 years latter I still have the same shop in the same location.... taking the advise here I would have been out of business and in court with the first customer...
     
  5. wheeldog57
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    Let's try to remember the original question from the OP, what caused these holes? I picture an angry woman with a blunt crowbar
     
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  6. Budget36
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    I think you nailed it with “goals -operative word coming- skills”

    It’s not an easy task to jump in on, just because you have a welder.
     
  7. 49ratfink
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    here you go. no charge.

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  8. Budget36
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    Pretty sure he asked how to fix them as well:)
     
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  9. ALLDONE
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    so might as well do the whole car then.... there's holes in the door panels and everywhere else
     
  10. ALLDONE
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    you do nice work, can you also fix the big hole some one cut to mount and screw on the 50 yr old speaker in the right hand corner...
     
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  11. 49ratfink
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    all I need is a photo like the other one. post a photo of the whole thing and I'll see if I can chop it
     
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  12. I own a '46 K1 (same cab) and it would be very hard to remove that panel, it goes from one door to the other, from floor up to where you see. I guess the rust at the top of the rear window is from mouse piss and I would think the bottom of this panel at the floor is the same.
    I think the best way suggested so far is to get the large headed nails, if you can find some that fit, and weld them in. then bondo.
     
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  13. Toms Dogs
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  14. ALLDONE
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    just my opinion... but if some one can't weld those little hole with a mig.... they are not a welder, but a welder owner... kinda like anyone that has enough money can buy an air plane.... but you have to be a pilot to fly it..
     
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  15. ALLDONE
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    so here's a 2 part question..
    #1.....if you took this to a shop, what would you be willing to pay to have the panel removed, metal finished and replaced in primer...????

    # 2 if you own a shop... what would you charge to do it???
     
  16. ALLDONE
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    if I bid this job.... i'm estimating 4hrs to remove the panel.... that just a phone quote, and could go up or down depending on looking at it... and at least another 4 hrs to weld metal finish. get to primer ready for the painter.and replace. so labor at $1200 plus materials... shop supplies , paint/ primer and such another $300 , so minimum $1500. plus tax on materials....

    I know I bid this way to cheep and it should be time and materials... it's gonna take a shit load of hours to replace after drilling all the spot welds and put it back to look like it was never took apart...
     
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  17. ALLDONE
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    next, if I told you that I would repair it to where you will never have a problem with it for $200... what would you do???
     
  18. ALLDONE
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    next, the window rust,.. what I would do is remove the window if the rubber is available.. I'd use a liquid rust remover and probe around the area with a pick to see how far back I have to go to get to thick enough metal to weld to, I'd get some hanger wire,... the kind used to suspend hat rack ceilings for drywall... if the gap is too big I'd use flat stock , weld it shut and metal finish back to stock looking....

    another big ticket shop done repair...
     
  19. Fat47
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    And another thread that becomes a pissing match.
     
  20. twenty8
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    Aww man, you've spoiled his run. He could have got six posts in a row. I think he was going for the record.....:rolleyes:
     
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  21. 34Phil
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    project expansion. Do too well here and you start to look hard at the rest of the sheetmetal. Next thing you know the body is hanging from the rafters while you detail the frame. Bondo and move on.
     
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  22. I’m too busy listening to turbos spool up to care
     
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  23. TwistedMetal
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    cutoff wheel and cut the panel out of there, you'll be lighter and go faster. boom done.
     
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  24. MCjim
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    If you look at them long enough, they appear to be raised...
    crater illusion.
     
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  25. 49ratfink
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    ... as for welding nails in the hole :confused: Ron Covell used to sell a small box of sheet metal circles in different sizes for filling holes. you drill the hole to fit whatever circle that works best. not sure if anyone is doing that now. also there used to be a fab shop near me that kept a metal dumpster outside, there was always a bunch of metal circles that were punched out of whatever it was they made there, so i grabbed a bunch of them. thirdly you can make your own with a Roper Whitney hole puncher if the holes are smaller than the biggest die on your punch
     
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  26. What caused these holes?

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  28. ALLDONE
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    the holes are small enough to just weld shut... just use an air gun to cool as you go
     
  29. Baumi
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    How bored must you be... can´t you just get drunk or high? Oh wait, maybe you already did...
     
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