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What do you use this tool for...?????

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by flatshoebox, May 3, 2004.

  1. flatshoebox
    Joined: Apr 22, 2004
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    Ok all ya old timers, what the hell is this "shaft turning tool" used for? And what its worth!
    (Click on the link, cause I do not know how to resize pictures!)
    My neighbor gave this to me, cause "I'm a car guy" and he's not, I guess! Said his uncle built early 1900's cars before he passed.
    Thanks for any help!
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  2. Bruce Lancaster
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    I can just barely see any of the pics on my primitive computer (actually a Sears Penske "Unfair Advantage" dwell meter), but I think I have seen one! An old mechanic in Mississippi showed me such a device, and said it was made to turn rod journals on a crank still mounted in the car. His was electrified (23 Skiddoo!), yours is maybe the armstrong model? He said it was used mostly on Babbitt rod Chevy sixes, which lost their unpressurized rod bearings frequently. This allowed a rebuilt rod to be installed without major dismantling to fix the journal.
     
  3. What I can remember of the 'Grinding a journal in the car" tools is they had a grinding wheel and required electricity.

    I'm inclined to think it's a commutator turning tool.
    Note that it's designed for use in a lathe as well as by hand.
     
  4. flatshoebox
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    Thanks, but I'm not sure how you would hook up the electic, though.
    Anybody know where I could sell it? Or which section on ebay to sell it under?. I don't want to but, I need money right now. Thanks again.
     
  5. Smokin Joe
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    Hey, my buddy gave me this neat old stuff because the stupid sucker thought I might be interested. How much profit can I make off of what that dumb bastard gave me for free!

    I hope whatever you get, you split it with your neighbor.
     
  6. flatshoebox
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    no that fuck owed me money for workin on his old ladys car.. so I hope its worth a lot cause the guys a cheep bum.
     
  7. Smokin Joe
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    Well, that's different, Nevermind... [​IMG]
     
  8. flatshoebox
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    yeah, the whole story helps, hun...I'm not a dick who wants to profit off of someones stupidity, but it happens sometimes!
     
  9. Smokin Joe
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    I've been on the other side of this kinda thing. I had a kid here who pestered me for damned near a year because he wanted me to sell him an A cab I wasn't going to get around to for a while for his "Project". I finally sold it to him for a hundred bucks because I figured he'd use it. Next friggin day some other guy I've never met comes to pick up the cab he bought off the kid for $700.
     
  10. flatshoebox
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    That really suck.. Try to help a kid out and he F's ya sorry to hear it..
     
  11. noboD
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    I think the first guess from Bruce was right. The early, Model T, cranks were soft enough you could turn them with such a tool. They also poured babbit bearings in the car. I think I remember reading they smoked the crank with acetalene so the babbit wouldn't stick to the crank. I've seen tools like this at Hershey AACA show. Try putting it on their site. Looks like a wallhanger to me.
     
  12. Looks like the tool they used back in 30/40/50s grind rod journals w/the eng still in the car. The ones I seen as a kid did'nt have elec to the grinding stone, it was mounted in a fixture that was slowly adjusted by turning a screw type assy that slowly put pressure on the stone to accomplish the desired diameter on the shaft. On 216 chev 6s, they lower the piston enough to change the rod out to one that was the correct size. I dont remember if they could change Ford babbit rods or not with out taking the head off. All the engs w/insert bearings were just replaced w/a new correct size bearing. To get get the crank to turn so it could be ground evenly, they had a device that was used on the rear wheel to turn it w,the car in gear to rotate the eng w/the plugs out. Those that I seen as a kid in the country garage some how locked the left wheel, (adjusted brake shoe tight as I recall) to get the axle to rotate thru the spider gears. I remember the cars were always up on the old 2 post hoists or over the pit so they did'nt have to adjust brake. Havent seen one of those tools since about 52-53. Kinda neat to see one again, do'nt have any idea what its value is. Try Antiques Road Shoo!! [​IMG] [​IMG] Good Luck, (would make a nice conversation piece for your Hot Rod garage.) Dave [​IMG]<font color="red"> </font>
     
  13. flatshoebox
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    Thanks I'll check into it..
    Yeah I once told a guy at an engine shop that I was gonna make it into a lamp, and the guy got so pissed off he was screamin at me.. Took him 20 minutes to realize I was jokin!
     
  14. flatshoebox
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    [ QUOTE ]
    I think the first guess from Bruce was right. The early, Model T, cranks were soft enough you could turn them with such a tool. They also poured babbit bearings in the car. I think I remember reading they smoked the crank with acetalene so the babbit wouldn't stick to the crank. I've seen tools like this at Hershey AACA show. Try putting it on their site. Looks like a wallhanger to me.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I posted on it on the AACA fourm... I think i heard crickets in the background..pretty slow there. thanks anyway
     
  15. noboD
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    Saw your post on AACA. If you do an intro I'd leave out the part about hotrods. no sence of humor over there.
     
  16. flatshoebox
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Saw your post on AACA. If you do an intro I'd leave out the part about hotrods.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    No need i wont be there long!! [​IMG]
     

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