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What have i got? T pickup bed or AA??

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by lowsquire, Jan 19, 2004.

  1. lowsquire
    Joined: Feb 21, 2002
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    from Austin, TX

    Hmm just saw a pic of kustombuilders T bed and noticed the beads in the side are damn close to this bed ive put a deposit on..was sold to me as an AA bed,hence no curved bead for fender to match up to...
    was he full of ****?
     

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  2. Not a 26/27 at least. The bottom rail or sub-rail on a T overlaps the bottom of the rear stake pocket and ****s against the front stake pocket/tailgate saddle. I'd say that is a larger box, but I'd think it could be used for whatever you want.

    Charlie
     
  3. lowsquire
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    Yeh I'm using it for sure, just might be an argument to bring the price down! paid a lot for it,kinda embar***ed to say how much..
    Its straight and complete(the end and tailgate are with it..and good too.) but you guys in the u.s. would buy a whole body for $600 [​IMG]
     
  4. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
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    Its Model A for sure, but AA didnt use short metal pickup beds. Next time Rocky posts a pic of the truck he sold to Tman, you can see that Rockys bed is a Model T bed. The front stake pockets are about 7 inches back from the cab. A pockets are near the ends of the bed.
     
  5. it's a model A bed
     
  6. lowsquire
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    thanks guys. much appreciated. [​IMG]
     
  7. kustombuilder
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    i was told mine was an "A" bed when i bought it but a friend who is quite knowledgable said it was "T". i have noticed many differences as i looked for a bed to butcher. i figured it might not be an "A" bed when i bought it but it really did'nt matter since i'm building completely new sides for mine. all i needed was the tailgate and surrounding piece which looks the same on all "A" and "T" beds that i've seen.
    yers looks supper nice. alot better than mine. i have to rebuild the center part of the surround on mine cause of rust. i think i paid $130 on Ebay. if you price out the individual pieces (all of which are repopped) it could get REAL expensize to piece a new bed together. none of the parts are cheap and it'd be cheaper to buy an entire repop bed than to replace half of the pieces in an old one.
    anyway, yours is definately the same as whatever mine is. i was callin mine an "A" till yesterday but it's all the same for what i'm doin with it.
     
  8. Rocky
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    This is a 26 T box....
     

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  9. Rocky
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    Here's a little lighter photo of it.
     

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  10. lowsquire
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    well the plot thickens..
    the tailgate has "ford" in script on it..noticed that rockys doesnt.
    heres the other shot i have.
    its never been drilled for the little trim strip that follows the fender,all the original photo's of A pickups ive seen had fenders.
     

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  11. kustombuilder
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    mine also has the "FORD" script. i know aftermarket you can get em either way.

    and the debate rages on [​IMG].......
     
  12. Smokin Joe
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    Looks like a 1925 T bed. All the later ones had a reveal for the fender. From 26 on, the fenders attached to the bed. The 2 rectangle reveals on the side also make it look like a T bed. They made 2 different beds in 25. But then, you could order a truck ch***is and cowl from Ford and put whatever you wanted on it for a customized truck, so who really knows. It could have come off an AA ch***is with an earlier bed. The bed is definatly 1925 or earlier tho. Notice Rocky's 26 bed is the same except it has the fender reveal.
     
  13. Two-Gun Bob
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    I also think that it looks like a 1925 T bed. That was the first year of factory-supplied pickup beds and the fenders mounted on a short post that held them away from the sides of the bed. If you look in the picture carefully, you can see the t****zoid-shaped reinforcement plate on the inside of the bed where that post was. In 1926 and later the fenders mounted to the sides of the bed and the beads in the side of the bed follow the fender curve. There were two styles of 1926-27 beds; early ones with the front stake pocket at the leading edge of the bed and later ones with the stake pocket moved back a ways, this change was made after it was realized that sideboards wouldn't fit in the stake pocket because of the curve of the roadster body! The very early 1925 pickup beds did not have the Ford script on the tailgate; this was added at some point mid-way through the year.
     
  14. Rocky
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    Mine has the ford script on the tailgate....stock T.
    But my sub-rails were more like I-beam or Heavy C-channel that the A-bone box in the photo. And I believe it got wider in the middle of the box [front to rear] and skinnier at the ends if I remember right......check it out...
     

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  15. Two-Gun Bob
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    Rocky, the 1925 Model T had a wooden subframe that the bed attached to; the wood was covered by those plates under the pickup bed. On the roadster they were covered by steel channel-shaped pieces. For 1926-27 the Model T had a steel subframe (except for the Fordor sedan) and the pickup bed bolted directly to that. On your bed, the bottom rail flares out in the middle because that follows the line of the steel subframe. Look in the wheelwell area of a steel '26-27 roadster (on the turtledeck) and you will see that it bulges out in the middle; that is where it follows the subframe. Your pickup bed is one of the earlier '26 models.
     
  16. Ben: just curious, but did you buy that from an "old tin" place in Vic?

    Trying to work out if I want a T pikup or roadster rear to go with my 27 cowl and bits.
     
  17. lowsquire
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    fascinating stuff..if its 1925 its in amazing condition for an eighty year old piece! dont feel so bad about the bucks now [​IMG]

    peddro, not from old tin,another A hoarder in melbourne.he's got a 'square' A roadster pick up rear section (orig) you might be able to talk him out of...probably best if i ask, he qoutes stupid prices,but if you turn up with a six pack and an hour to ******** it gets more reasonable.
    his name is Jonesy..ring a bell?
     
  18. <font color="red">Ok now let me tell ya what I found out..........I have seen 2 different beds on T's one with fender flares and one without........every A I have seen have them....just my 2 cents

    R E D M E A T </font>
     
  19. lowsquire
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    so the consensus seems to be late 1925 T bed.Kool! I think thatll be the oldest part on my truck.

    the other kool thing is I dont have to worry about the arch in the reveal line matching the rear wheel position.will probably shorten it a foot or so.
     
  20. hey ben,

    could just make it a Modified and not run that bed at all heheheh [​IMG]

    hope last sat gave taste that will spur you on to much rod building.

    danny
     

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