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what possible flathead could this be?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by snortonnorton, Jun 17, 2006.

  1. snortonnorton
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    I'm checking this out next week but have not seen it in person.

    the guy says Heads have 59AB on them. Block has D-106 and a 59 on the bellhousing section.

    what possibilities are there with it in terms of what goodies it might have?
     

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  2. Looks like the average old flathead. No 4" crank in there.
    If it turns over it's still a goodie.
     
  3. snortonnorton
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    yeah, that's the one thing i do know, is that it won't have the mercury crank... do they really cost 200 to 500 just for an old mercury crank if i want one? why doesn't someone just machine new ones and sell them cheaper.

    i was just wondering how many cubic inches displacement would this be if it was made in 1945 if it's correct model number?
     
  4. dave s
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    235 maybe??
     
  5. 51 MERC-CT
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    Looks like a 59ab with an 8ba intake.:) :D
     
  6. Flat Ernie
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    They do make new cranks...they aren't cheaper though...check SCAT
     
  7. 200 to 500 is a good price flathead jack wants 800 to 1000 for his new ones last time I looked .You want to play you have to pay
     
  8. slickmick
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    There was a major flatty engine rebuilder in the mid-west that put the stroker cranks in his Ford rebuilds..................so you never know until you pull a head and check out the stroke. My buddy in Minnesota has been extremely lucky and picked up 3 this way. I'm talking in the $50-100 range for complete motors.
     
  9. 31ACoupe
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    That fan looks pretty weird, like a propeller. You need to pull the intake, might have adjustable lifters which are good. How do you know that it isn't a 4" crank? If you haven't checked the stroke you can't be sure. The late intake means someone has done some mods to the engine. If the block is good and it runs you have a good motor, the early flatties are popular and considered more "traditional" by some folks. Good luck and let us know what you find out.....31acoupe:cool:
     
  10. snortonnorton
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    what is SCAT?
     
  11. Mad-Lad
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    I have a 4" SCAT crank in my flathead.

    They make cranks, rods, pistons I think also. Bassicly a huge company that alot of machine shops relie on for parts....lol
     
  12. dave s
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    hahaha, thats what i ment
     
  13. The adavantage of a 4" crank is mostly a myth. You may gain 10 HP. Not worth the extra cost.
    I have found 2 of them in Ford truck engines.
     
  14. tommy
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    Exactly. 16 CI ain't worth the extra $$ for a street driver. Now if you can find one for a reasonable price it don't cost any more to use it in a rebuild.

    Just lie about it!:D You won't notice any real difference anyway.
     
  15. 8flat
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    So you should be able to tell if it has a 4" crank by taking the plugs out, poking a stick down one of the plug holes, turn the motor over, and measure how far the piston travels from top to bottom. If it only moves 3.75", you have a stock Ford crank. I haven't tried this, but it should work out, don't you guys think?

    Gary
     
  16. tommy
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    Maybe on a Chevy but not on a flathead Ford.:eek::D
     
  17. Fortyfordguy
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    Our website has most of the details and pics on the flathead engines. This link will point you to the choices for which motor you have. The 59 on the bell housing tells us it's a 46-48 block. Those motors should also have the 59A marking on the heads if they were original. Intakes could have been swapped, but that's no big deal. A rebuilder could have installed a Merc 4" stroke crank and even a set of nice adjustable lifters in there. You can see the adjustables by pulling the intake and looking in the galley. You really need to pull a head to check the stroke. Ford cranks were 3-3/4" and the 1949-53 Merc cranks were 4". For anything else you want to know about Ford flathead V8 motors, use the other link for the homepage:

    http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_specifications.htm

    www.flatheadv8.com
     
  18. Petejoe
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    Cant do this with a Flathead Gary. All you have to look at is the valves when you remove the plugs.
    Dont pay more than 200 for that engine. Unless you have speed equipment attached to them. They could have lots of hidden problems. Like major cracks.:eek:
     
  19. 51 MERC-CT
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