I see there are a few of these on the market, ZIPS, SNOW and VINTAGE AIR, any pros, cons, on any of these? Is one better than an other? I plan on running one on my 32 coupe with full hood and sides with a SBC, T-5, Griffen Radiator, Vintage Air and Heat and a GM 1 wire Alt. I wanna make sure that I am not ******* into the wind by buying one that wont work or keep the engine cool in summer traffic. So any tips or tricks to make this work would be a great help.. Thanks In advance, Ryan
I sent you the information on the Zips, Snow White are know for making risers for Ford engines although they do make them for Chevys, the alternator & air compressors mounts are not built in like the zips, I am unaware of a riser made by vintage air. I first learned of the Zips riser from the late Randy Nash (Deuce Roadster) and have used 3 of them in the past, it centers the fan in the middle of the radiator and you can use a large fan and keep the car cool with out the use of a additional electric fan. The zips has provisions for the alternator & air . conditioner compressor, I have a zips on my old beater. HRP
I have used Zips riser on 2- 32's and a 34 truck that I have built and never had a problem with any of them. It will not cure a problem of using a too small a radiator. USE a Walker and a ZIP (no cooling problem or electric fans. Too small a radiator and the faster you go the hotter it runs.
Club brother has a Snow White in his A delivery. I think it uses a Vega pump. He's had it there since the 90s. Sent from my LGLS992 using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
For me it is about finding parts when you break down. And maybe for the current choices this is a moot point. Maybe you give some thought as what you will do for replacement pump if needed on the road? I haven't really seen/heard any screaming performance issues with either.
Thanks for that, I talked to only one person about the Vintage air and he said he really like it over Zips but couldnt really tell me why..
I'm a firm believer in the Walker copper/br*** radiators, I have them in both our cars, the one in the old beater is over 30 years old and I have never had a problem. HRP
If I were going to use a riser and not make my own (its not rocket science) I would go with a Zips. They have been around for a while and I have never heard anything bad about them.
If the water pump on a zips riser failed in Sugar ***, South Carolina you can easily find a GM 6 cylinder water pump as close as the local parts house, with the Snow White it might be a good idea to keep a spare Opal water pump in the car. HRP
Read Randy info on the Zips pump. Some of the six cyl. pumps have a plate on the back covering the impeller. Works like a water wheel. Randy shows how to do one yourself.
I've have run the Snow White pump riser on my roadster since '06. The Opal pump has a large diameter shaft and heavy duty bearings. But I agree that having a backup pump is a great idea. Also all my '32s have Walker radiators and the one in my coupe has been in it since I built the car in 1982. Never a problem.
Years ago I attended an electronics cl*** in Biloxi , MS a couple of guys were from Possome trot and slippery rock.
I only needed one inch so I had to make my own. Beware, there are different length shafts and housing shapes on Chevy 6 cyl. water pumps. Used an old one I was given to build the riser. Put the new one on and the pulley hit the pump housing. Parts man took my old one and looked up the casting numbers. 79 PU, not p***enger car.
I know zip I've been to his shop the guy is a walking legend ,fyi he also makes the vintage air risers both work very well I installed them on willys wagons and no problems. Sent from my SM-G892A using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
Two votes here for the Snow White units which I have used on two cars. I prefer the appearance of the small Opel pump to the larger Chevy 6 pump and it's aluminum to save a little weight up front. Overall a neater unit IMHO, but the Zips unit might be better if you are going to hang a bunch of extra stuff on the front of the motor. One specific you must pay attention to if you use a Snow White riser you must also use a Dayco "Top Cog" fan belt which is narrower and fits the supplied pulley much better than other wider brands. Other brand belts don't fit the groove well and require excessive tightness to prevent slippage. The Dayco Top Cog belts fit the grooves perfectly and can be run without excessive tightening which is hard on water pump and alternator bearings.
On my '31"A" Hiboy I run the Zip's along with a Walker radiator and as recommended by the above mentioned Randy Nash, the aluminum bodied heavy duty option water pump from Auto Zone that comes with the plate already attached to the vanes, and is also ball polished for a nice appearance.
If I was building my own I would use an SBC short pump. I know that it sounds weird but it would be my pump of choice. yes way too many choices in 6 cylinder pumps. And it gets worse in most parts houses they want year and make of car and when you tell them well lets see, '29 Ford but I need this pump they loose their mind.
I considered it. Was already running a short pump. No room to move it forward to accommodate the thickness of a one inch riser without putting the fan into the radiator. As is I had to cut out a portion of the 3/16" thick body of the riser and replace it with a piece of 16 gauge to clear the top of the timing cover and put a 1/8" spacer behind the crank pulley to get the pulleys to line up.
This is the one I’m using https://www.flowkoolerwaterpumps.co...974-inline-6-cyl-cw-rotation-riser-water-pump
No sir, Lizard lick is in North Carolina, Sugar *** a community in Spartanburg, South Carolina and they are known for some pretty darn good moonshine. With a half gallon of this stuff you wouldn't car if your car was running hot or not! HRP
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