Register now to get rid of these ads!

Technical What the hell

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ron Brown, Jan 14, 2022.

  1. Ron Brown
    Joined: Jul 6, 2015
    Posts: 1,766

    Ron Brown
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Can anyone explain this distributor cap...I would really like to see the rotor? 5A21F477-4065-4A5F-8054-ABB562365CDF.jpeg
     
  2. Rickybop
    Joined: May 23, 2008
    Posts: 10,744

    Rickybop
    Member

    Looks to me like a hot Wayne 6 cylinder with dual spark plugs, 12 lugs on the cap, and a few spark plug wires not installed.
     
  3. Rickybop
    Joined: May 23, 2008
    Posts: 10,744

    Rickybop
    Member

    And dual coils.
     
    stillrunners, loudbang, Stogy and 2 others like this.
  4. SS327
    Joined: Sep 11, 2017
    Posts: 3,929

    SS327

    For dual plug 6 cyl head?
     
    loudbang, Stogy and Deuces like this.
  5. Rickybop
    Joined: May 23, 2008
    Posts: 10,744

    Rickybop
    Member

    I don't know, never saw one with dual plugs. But are there not 6 pairs of lugs on the distributor cap? 12 total?
     
    loudbang, Stogy and Deuces like this.
  6. Rehpotsirhcj
    Joined: May 7, 2006
    Posts: 1,541

    Rehpotsirhcj
    Member

    I want to see the other side of that head
     
    loudbang, SS327, Stogy and 1 other person like this.
  7. Moriarity
    Joined: Apr 11, 2001
    Posts: 37,659

    Moriarity
    SUPER MODERATOR
    Staff Member

    that is a piece arrow distributor. It was a common hot rod practice to put those on engines with 2 plugs per cylinder. It is similar to the aftermarket W&H dual coil distributors that were made in the fifties and sixties. there is a spring loaded brush on the rotor that picks up the second coil from the ring inside, see the pic dualcoil.jpg
     
  8. Moriarity
    Joined: Apr 11, 2001
    Posts: 37,659

    Moriarity
    SUPER MODERATOR
    Staff Member

    they are probably running one plug per cylinder but using the dist as a dual coil unit. It gives more coil saturation time and thus hotter spark
     
  9. Rickybop
    Joined: May 23, 2008
    Posts: 10,744

    Rickybop
    Member

    Could it be that there are 6 spark plugs, and each pair of spark plug wires fires each spark plug twice? Actually, maybe an extended single spark.
     
    loudbang and Stogy like this.
  10. hrm2k
    Joined: Oct 2, 2007
    Posts: 5,481

    hrm2k
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    That car belongs to HAMBer Cody Walls in Dewlaware,
     
    jim snow, clem, VANDENPLAS and 7 others like this.
  11. Rickybop
    Joined: May 23, 2008
    Posts: 10,744

    Rickybop
    Member

    Yeah, what Mark said.
     
    loudbang, Stogy and Moriarity like this.
  12. lurker mick
    Joined: Jun 1, 2001
    Posts: 2,978

    lurker mick
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Cody has a build thread here.

    Mick
     
    Stogy and wandi harry like this.
  13. Nash distributor??
     
  14. Rehpotsirhcj
    Joined: May 7, 2006
    Posts: 1,541

    Rehpotsirhcj
    Member

    1) beautiful
    2) Cody knows his ****
    3) I’m still confused as hell.
    D50CF0D8-FAEA-4A03-9D42-F2E0BC8042EA.jpeg

    0598791F-17D3-41B5-B67B-38C677EC6460.jpeg
     
  15. Ron Brown
    Joined: Jul 6, 2015
    Posts: 1,766

    Ron Brown
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I understand the arrangement of the plug wire spacing on the wires around the perimeter of the cap, so, I am ***uming the 2 "inboard" wires go to coils? Interested to see a view of the internals without the cap...my flathead has a gennie, crab style distributor that has the strangest rotor i've ever seen, but this one has we scratch'n my head.
     
    loudbang, chryslerfan55 and Stogy like this.
  16. blowby
    Joined: Dec 27, 2012
    Posts: 8,664

    blowby
    Member
    from Nicasio Ca

    Must get very hot.
     
    Stogy likes this.
  17. Moriarity
    Joined: Apr 11, 2001
    Posts: 37,659

    Moriarity
    SUPER MODERATOR
    Staff Member

    look at post 7 above, I posted a picture of a rotor and the inside of a cap
     
  18. Rehpotsirhcj
    Joined: May 7, 2006
    Posts: 1,541

    Rehpotsirhcj
    Member

    I missed the part about saturation time with a single plug per cylinder, now I get it.
     
    loudbang, Moriarity and Stogy like this.
  19. Stogy
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
    Posts: 27,207

    Stogy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Last edited: Jan 14, 2022
    hrm2k, Cody Walls, loudbang and 2 others like this.
  20. ClayMart
    Joined: Oct 26, 2007
    Posts: 7,801

    ClayMart
    Member

    loudbang, chryslerfan55 and Stogy like this.
  21. Ron Brown
    Joined: Jul 6, 2015
    Posts: 1,766

    Ron Brown
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Ah.....I see....didnt notice the ring inside the cap.......pretty cool really
     
  22. Cody Walls
    Joined: Nov 14, 2008
    Posts: 1,574

    Cody Walls
    Member

    For those who’s wondering , the distributor is a very early spalding made for the Wayne F Horning company for the Wayne 12 ports back in the early 50s ,
    its a Nash twin-plug distributor cap , with a modified base to fit on a Chevy distributor , every other lobe is grounded off the shaft . it provide 2 distinct 3 cylinder coil circuits . . . doubling dwell time and maximizing coil saturation at high RPM.
    , it’s a very Frankenstein setup but works very well and it was a hotter spark than a mag in the early 50s ,
     
    ClayMart, Stogy, Tman and 14 others like this.
  23. Cody Walls
    Joined: Nov 14, 2008
    Posts: 1,574

    Cody Walls
    Member

  24. Cody Walls
    Joined: Nov 14, 2008
    Posts: 1,574

    Cody Walls
    Member

    5B08103D-C666-4709-AF39-BF435700216C.jpeg
    also the crazy part of this whole setup is if you switch the coil wires around , it puts the motor 180 out .
     
    Stogy, kadillackid, Charlie K and 9 others like this.
  25. At the age of 14 ( 1967 ) in Australia my very first vintage car was a free 6 cylinder 1928 NASH . Real big car and i had no idea what i was doing except dismantling . ( learning curve ) The 12 sparkplugs and that big distributor cap where interesting. I remember lifting the cap and there was a extra new cap stuck under it . The automatic ch***is lubricating system was interesting as well. Sold the whole car in pieces for $ 50. Anyhow when i moved to The Netherlands in 1978 i took the new cap with me. Sold it years later for good money.
     
    Stogy, hrm2k and lothiandon1940 like this.
  26. lothiandon1940
    Joined: May 24, 2007
    Posts: 32,463

    lothiandon1940
    Member

    Thanks Cody, for stepping in and giving us further clarification on a very cool and innovative approach to ignition. Outstanding.
     
    Dino 64, 41 GMC K-18, Stogy and 8 others like this.
  27. jim snow
    Joined: Feb 16, 2007
    Posts: 1,933

    jim snow
    Member

    X2. Snowman ⛄️
     
    Dino 64, Stogy, hrm2k and 2 others like this.
  28. rusty1
    Joined: Nov 25, 2004
    Posts: 13,070

    rusty1
    Member

    now that is a hot rod!
     
    loudbang, Stogy and lothiandon1940 like this.
  29. Ron Brown
    Joined: Jul 6, 2015
    Posts: 1,766

    Ron Brown
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    well...it's cooler n ****...fer sure
     
    lothiandon1940, loudbang and Stogy like this.
  30. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 36,029

    Mr48chev
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Add me to that list of folks who say thanks. That's quite a setup. Not far off some of the dual point V8 distributors with 4 lobes on the distributor cam though.
     
    lothiandon1940, Stogy and loudbang like this.

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.