What's all this noise I hear? The September banger meet, that's what!

Anybody try a single Demon 98 on a banger yet? I know how it looks, don't need to hear any opinions on that...

Thanks,
Will Kimble

 

Thanks Enbloc,..don't know how I missed that!!?? I knew there was some talk on it, I thought I asked bofore but mised it!

 

Not exactly "banger" related,...but more "Winfield Carb" related.

I have this in an old magazine I bought a while back. I was wondering if anyone had ever seen one of these intakes before or if it was purely a Home-made job?

I'm going to pick up an early 21 stud flatty and reproduce this intake myself.

Thought it might be an interesting post for those running Winfields....
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davies intake, pretty cool...
early ones were seperate and later had an equalizer below the carbs

pretty rare but it looks simple to make from aluminum tubing
zach

 

BINGO! Exactly what I was thinking of,.....I'll be building one next week, maybe this weekend??

Didn't know if I wanted to use aluminum or possibly try stainless???

Have any other info on them by chance?

 

Hope you guys don't mind, but the name of this thread is similair to a sketch idea I started last month. It has to do with bangers It's just the line work. I'm gonna try to finish for the art show tomorrow.

 

Enblock- You wrote-

Running the exhaust through the two intake ports actually works rather well. The two paired cylinders fire 180 degrees apart so never exhaust into the shared port at the same time.

This is true with either of the four cylinder firing orders, BUT my point is that with the stock arrangement (4 exhaust ports) each port gets one cylinders worth of exhaust heat every two engine revolutions. With port reversal, each ex intake, now exhaust gets two cylinders worth of exhaust heat every two engine revolutions, one right after the other. Twice the number of BTU's going through a port that was not designed to handle any internal heat- and probably has less wall thickness and water circulation than the ex exhaust, now intake ports.

And as for the oiling of pre 53 Chevys, back in the 50's I helped a fellow car nut replace a rod or two a couple times- whenever he tried to race a Ford or Olds. We even "targeted" the oil spray pipes per the Chevy shop manual- which might have helped, but was not the solution, It's adequate system for a lawnmower "throw away" engine, or a car driven VERY conservatively, but if it wasn't a problem in 1953, Chevy, being the last manufacture to use it, would never have changed.

Herb Kephart

 

Nope....

It remains that my interest in sprayers are as per the fact that I am building a re-creation of a certain roadster, thus being that the sprayers were used on THAT engine, I was looking to use them again on this engine now.....not looking for a "cheaper miracle cure".
This is why I mentioned in my post above that my friend's roadster ran this back in the 1930s. I'm just researching and digging into some history. I can't see how coupled with the stock dipper system this would not be a good setup,...but I've never had any experience with it of course.

 

Howdy all, I am back from my wirlwind North American tour, more on that later.
Coaltown, this is a carb I got form Hugh C, this is the type I would use if you make that mani. Or the top could have an adapter for a Stromberg base.

I am going to use this one on the pantyripper build

 

VERY COOL! (as I wipe the drool away,...)

I have a similar fuel intake,....the cast brass deal there,...
the only difference is,...mine is for running two carbs, but not siamiesed (spelling??,..) carbs like yours here.

That's a knock out little setup there,....

 

some guy showed me a complete Miller head carb and manifold and whatever else that it has, got any offers out there ??
looks old to me??

 

yes i have the same thing out of a fiat the motor was created for the salt flats but the builder cant remember . this distributor has numbers if anyone is interesred fits model a motor good

 

hey has anyone got any news on how the bangers went at boneville?

 

yes i would like to know also.everyone seems to be interested in the latest trick bit and talking about it.lets see some traditional hot rod innovation in the banger world based on real people who have actually produced something that will help all banger guysbut not with the price tag

 

Some 4 bangers on the salt:

Bobby Green and the Old Crow belly tank:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=289292&highlight=bobby+green

The Bean Bandits:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=291572&highlight=bean+bandits&showall=1

Saw both teams run on the salt this year, awesome to say the least

 

My engine is looking good. Mods this time are limited to the high compression head and that's it. I think I need it like that to restrict the revs otherwise I'll go out and thrash it to death again

Anyway I managed to shear a head stud. The Easy Outs didn't work this time and made a right mess so I drilled it out and helicoiled it. My first time, I'm really pleased with it:

 

The FAST news letter came in the mail yesterday. Here is what they printed for Banger reults.

 

Jonny

You need to sink the coil in atleast one more thread down and set it with Loctite. Otherwise you'll find it coming out on you. Always at the worst time.

 

Arse, I'll look at fishing it back out then. Thanks for the advice.

 

Sorry....... you can nick it with a small chisel and break it below the block level ........ The threads are brittle

If that doesn't work pull it out with a pair of neddle nose plyers and start over

 

Pretty neat to see so many 4 banger powered cars running at Bonneville this year. Sincerely hope the interest in running these engines continues in land speed racing. Keep all that old speed equipment as well as new 'tweaks' in use. The records set are meant to broken but someone running a little better the next time out!

 

If you get it out you should chamfer the hole diameter slightly larger than the thread OD otherwise the top thread ib the block will pull up slightly and cause head gasket problems.
Ask me how I know

 

Bill I guess I'm old and thought everyone KNEW that

 

I just got my computer back and charged right in. I based my comment on the photo of the finished repair in the block..

 

Just got back from a reunion in Ohio and was glad to see this old T speedster
from my youth back on the streets again. Please pardon the "Pinto" carb...

 

excellent job Ramblur just watch the heat from the manifold on that coil though good to see someone else doing a tee tidy job hope it goes well for you

 

My computer took a blue sparking dump on me The week prior to the 66 hillclimb. It is now better than before with a later version of the operating system.
So we went to the hillclimb and Jay and Barbara Steele joined us under our shade, well, actually they helped put it up, and as they had to tech their car they would do ours at the same time. I told Barbara to enter our car in the Historic class as I had been told I could only run there or in the Time Only class. Well they started to hassle her about the size of the gas tank, someone said it was not legal in any class because of only having a 3.8 gallon tank
( The tank is a Deicer tank from a WW2 B24 ) I had always been told it was very period correct. Anyway my car was built as a Lakes Modified not a Speedster and I didn't care. All I wanted to do was see the car go. Anyway another official stepped in and said to run it in the Speedster class but that I would have to have a 8 gallon tank next year.
So Jay started to make a few runs but although his speed was good the E T was also higher or not as quick as last year. I finally realized that his more aggressive starts were causing too much wheel spin. all had a good time except for those who broke something.
An old friend dropped by and we discussed his latest project which is a Donovan block with a Steve Serr Miller bolted on the top. He was getting ready to run it on the test stand
He is running 8.5 compression, dual Strombergs and so on. Jay of Taylor Engines built it.

 

I forgot to mention that Crazydaddyo stopped by at the hillclimb and visited between photo shots and his search for a Rutherford intake.
Have you had any luck on the intake? I will see a guy today that knows someone that has several of the heads and will get a name. The fellow with the heads lives in Glendora or Azusa

 

I wasn't sure what you meant here but now I think about it I can see what you mean quite clearly. Thanks for the advice from you and the pm from Bluto, I know a lot more about this process now!

 

Hey boys, need some advice from those who have the knowledge and experience...

Between a Diamond A block and a good magnafluxed non-cracked/repaired "B" block, and now picking up a nice drilled "C" crank in a few weeks....

Should I turn down the "C" crank and build the Diamond "A" block,...or pick up the "B" block and try my luck with the "B"??

I was told by an old timer today that even if the top deck does crack by the valve seat, it won't affect anything and you'll probably never realize it??

Not sure if I belive this,.....???

Just really leery of the B blocks due to all the horror stories of cracked decks, etc. on them.