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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by metalshapes, May 30, 2006.

  1. cool57
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    When it's functional, not billet for the sake of billet. (did I say that right?:confused:)
     
  2. Gemini EFI
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    The flow difference will be nearly imperceptable.
    If you have a wild cam,intake pulses may require balance tubes, to ease tuning.
    Gemini EFI
     
  3. robber grin
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    I dunno... but that is nice work and looks cool as hell mocked up too.
    rg
     
  4. jakespeed63
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    I have to concour with most everything that was said, especially the mixing of european and American componants. Our forfathers did this exact thing when they came back from WWII. Ever hear of a Allard J2 or AC Ace.
    Congrats on the nice workmanship and the engineering concept.:cool:
    ...when was billet cool? when Lil' John Buterra carved out parts for his killer Hot-Rods, starting back in the early 70's.:cool: Still cool if you did it yourself!
    JT
    P.S. Aluminum weighs less, makes your car go faster, carbon fiber weighs even less, makes you win races, like we did at 24hrs of LeMans 3 years ago.
     
  5. metalshapes
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    I've done some more work to it...

    Welded some dividers back in, welded a piece of Aluminum in on one side of the port to tighten the curve of the Port.
    Matched the Ports to a Double Hump Head, cut the ports in one of the Adaptors, and matched it to the Manifold.
    ( needs a little more cleanup, but the basic shape is there.)

    2 down, 6 to go...
     

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  6. Fossil
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    Was all of your milling work done on a manual Bridgeport?

    -Scott
     
  7. MyOldBuick
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    Very cool. I'd love to have the tools/talent to do crazy stuff like that. Form following function without the "mine is bigger than yours" (referring to credit card debit . . . pervs).
     
  8. metalshapes
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    Yeah...:)
     
  9. Nick79
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    Was thinking the same thing. What's the difference between using a chrome pulley and a billet pulley if you didn't make either? You're still buying something that is m*** produced by a 3rd party.

    Billet for the sake of Billet looks tacky in my mind as well. Creativity and ingenuity is usually cool to me....regardless of the material.

    My $0.0000000000001 as a FNG
     
  10. metalshapes
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    Thanks guys.

    I thought I had already posted a pic of how I cut the holes in the Top Flange of the Adaptors, but I didn't.

    So here it is...
     

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  11. Aman
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    It's only cool if you make it with a hammer and chisel Fred Flintstone sytle. CNC machines are for gold chainers!:D
     
  12. Zumo
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    Second that. And when it is used approprietly

     
  13. fab32
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    Just another example of what you can do with a Bridgeport (time and talent also figure in). I wouldn't trade mine for anything. Alex, were your trained or self taught on the maching stuff?
    that is one cool piece of billet and like someone said it harkens back to L'il John and the start of the billet craze. It just got out of hand when it started to be m*** produced. One off parts are where it's at and since it's going on your roadster that will make it even more cool.

    Frank
     
  14. Fossil
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    Billet is just another type of material to work with, like castings, plate, bar stock, etc. It's what you do with it that makes the difference between cool/trick and "billet" as a derogatory term. Looking at the photos here...and knowing a LITTLE about what it takes to turn out something like this from plain stock...I have to say "outstanding work". I got my hands on a clapped out Bridgeport 2 years ago. Thought I'd teach myself how to use it and make some parts for the hot rod. I've been reasonably successful but not to this level. A LOT of thought, planning and math goes into something like this, along with many hours of making chips. Cool!
     
  15. Nekronomicon
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    Its fine if its something you made for sure, Tyson made this handbrake handle for me and I love it-

    [​IMG]
     
  16. metalshapes
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    I'm not a Machinist.

    I was able to buy the Mill some time ago, and I'm figuring it out as I go...

    When I did a modified Intake for my Turbo Experiment on a English Ford Engine ( It uses a Maserati Carb and Pressure Box on a Modified aftermarket intake ), I started to think this might be possible too.
    So I tried it...:)
     

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  17. metalshapes
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    Some more progress...

    All the ports in the Adaptors are cut.
    2 of the Adaptors are rounded off and smoothed out on the outside.

    And I started to build the linkage...
     

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  18. My old lady would love it, too!
     
  19. Blair
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    It's funny to see this because I have an early rochester manifold with some cast adapters to three bolt flange carbs. I'm running it with 4 chrome 97's. It has had all of the numbers ground off because it was chromed. I'll post some pictures if you are interested.
     
  20. metalshapes
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    Yeah, I'd like to see that setup...
     
  21. flt-blk
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    Looks like good progress.
    So are you becoming the European carb conversion to American V8 spe******t
    in Tuscon??
     
  22. metalshapes
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    Nah... I'm just having fun with it...:D

    And putting 4 Webers on a V8 is something I've wanted to do for a long time.
     
  23. Flexicoker
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    that looks wicked ***y after all the smoothing. You have way more patience then most to pull of something like that.
     
  24. propwash
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    I didn't see no BILLET parts...just some real machine work, by a real hotrodder

    dj
     
  25. Flatdog
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    It ain't billit if you make it yourself HOTRODDER.
     
  26. Blair
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    Here are a couple of pics. The adapters are cast aluminum which were then chromed. The carbs aren't ***embled, I need to finish rebuilding them. I have some "horseshoe" linkage which I don't think I am going to use. I really don't know how I am going to do the linkage yet.

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  27. JamesG
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    ......
     

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  28. I just checked and it looks like I was thinking incorrectly, but there's a mob over here that make 4-carb Weber manifolds to suit Holden and Windsor V8s, including linkages to suit or adaptors to allow fitment of the carbs to either of these motors' existing manifolds. I thought they might have done Chev too.
     
  29. metalshapes
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    I've seen Intakes for IDA's and IDF's on SBC's, 289/302 SBF's, IDA's on a 351C, and I believe a IDF ( or maybe it was a IDA )intake for a 351W.
    There is a DCNF ( those are the carbs I'm using ) Intake for the SBC, but the Carbs are all in line, Maserati Style.
    I wanted them sideways to line the bores up nicer with the Intake ports.

    After I started doing this, I got some P/M's warning me about the DCNF's when you run them like that.
    They flood real easy going through corners...
    I opened one up to see what's going on, and I think I've figured out how I need to modify the Carbs so that wont be as much of a problem.
     
  30. metalshapes
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    That looks cool...

    Thanks for posting those pics.
     

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