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When is fake ok ????

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Slag Kustom, Jan 25, 2006.

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  1. Slag Kustom
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    all of this bashing on fake things got me thinking about all the other fake things that are ok


    not ok fake things:

    olds valve covers on sbc
    fake hemi's
    fake hilborn
    fake quick change

    ok fake things

    fake buick brakes
    multi carbs with them blocked off under the carb
    blowers with no guts
    cheater slicks
    vintage gauges that are not hooked up
    g***er 4dr cars


    the list of ok fake things is much longer then the problem fake things. It has become sad that the fakes have been acepted by such m***es that they are ok.

    just had to vent on this

    what are your thoughts on it ?????????
     
  2. stickylifter
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    Blowers with no guts should be relegated to the list on top. And add lakes and bellflower pipes to the bottom and dummy spots to the top. You're not fooling anyone with a spotlight that pops out of the middle of a fender like some sort of chrome mushroom.
     
  3. 40StudeDude
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    WHY are four door g***ers OK?

    R-
     
  4. chromedRAT
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    fake buick brakes are only acceptible because they can now include disk brakes, which is a FUNCTIONAL upgrade. i can tolerate he hidden injection systems in hilborn guise because i guess it is still somewhat functional and looks alot better than a modern FI unit.

    cheater slicks aren't fake. full slicks are illegal on the road. cheater slicks are a way to cheat the laws and still run slicks on the street.

    there were some real 4 door g***ers back in the old days. not many at all, but i've read about them.

    dummy carbs and blowers still ****. if you don't want three carbs, get a 4 bbl.
     
  5. CadillacKid
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    Fake ****s are okay :D :D

    Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

    You know what? I think all of the stuff on the bottom list belongs on the top....I roll with the understanding that if something's on there, it better work, and it better be the real thing. This all the rewards without any of the work **** has to stop. My $.02.
     
  6. Paul
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    I don't dig fake generally
    but those Ford battery cases hiding Optima batteries are looking good
     
  7. RenoRat
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    heres a cool 4 door g***er!!!

    [​IMG]
     
  8. buschandbusch
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    4 door g***ers are OK by me, but add fenderless g***ers to the list of not OK
    Fake breasts are good too :D

    I make no bones about hiding any modern equipment on my cars- I'd never throw anything on there to make it 'Look' like something unless it really was. That's poser. If you ain't got real drums or tri carbs or a blower, then you don't got it, period.
     
  9. HEATHEN
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    When is fake ok? When she doesn't want to hurt your feelings!

    HAW HAW HAW!

    Sorry, I can't abide by fake tripowers. I've run enough real multicarb setups that bogus ones are the automotive version of stuffing a sock down the front of your pants. On the other hand, I've got no problem with someone making a Hilborn injection setup practical for street use with modern EFI parts.
     
  10. luckydevil
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    What about real Corvette valve covers on a non Corvette motor? Is this fake? or Repro Corvette valve covers on an original Corvette motor? You can take this fake thing to the extreme. Who are these fake police and what gives them the authority to decide what is "cool"?
     
  11. sojerscraper
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    i agree with CadillacKid, if its there, it should be doing something. id rather fake it in the other direction. if i could keep my 383 totally stock looking and have it put out 500hp i would. i dig the 'sleeper' approach. fake performance stuff is no better than the ricers who throw stickers on thier rides of names of all hot suspension/ignition/exhaust parts even though the only thing they have going on is a ****box with some cut coils. let me know when they start selling a kit that makes a 383 look like a ratty old slant 6.
     
  12. CadillacKid
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    I've been thinking pretty hard about this lately...I just got a hilborn for a early ohv cadillac, and I've been trying to decide if it's acceptable to me to convert to EFI...
    I know that anyone is free to do with their car whatever the hell they feel like, but it's my car, so at least I have to be good with it....been trying to decide if i think the EFI hilborn is too poser-ish or not....
     
  13. CadillacKid
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    I'm not telling you what IS cool. I'm telling you what I feel is cool in my own mind. This will differ from person to person. All this means is that if I see enough stuff on a car that I don't like, I just keep walking, simple as that. Don't let others decide for you. Make up your own mind.
     
  14. luckydevil
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    That's the point I was trying to make. Unfortunatly I think a lot of people build there cars according to what they think other people will like instead of what they like. I say build it like YOU like it, fake or not, and who cares what anyone else thinks. Although I do agree with you fake ****s are cool!
     
  15. JamesG
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    When is fake ok?



    Who cares? It's you car. Do what you want with it.



    Thats ok.
     
  16. Fake is in the eye of the beholder.....:D
    What is a nice Model A coupe with a Deuce shell or 32 Frame?????
    In a lot of **** bigot ***hole's eyes- it is a fake '32....In some others opinion, it's a nice A coupe hot rod.

    I personally don't subscribe to the theory that any part of MY car, is any one else's bussiness.......AT ALL!

    I'm currently building a "FAKE 59 CORVETTE"...[IMPROVED OVER A REAL 59 BUT still A RACE BODY].
    I ALSO HAVE BUILT SEVERAL "FAKE WOODIES".....some of which were better looking than wooden woodies and were featured in major mags and won major awards -cause no one knew it was steel.
    One even sold at auction for $96,000 dollars.
    SO If you don't like my fakes -you can kiss my ***......:)
     
  17. Bruce Lancaster
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    Stuff needs to at least be in the right zip code to count as non-fake.

    Fenderless g***ers?? Ain't no such thing. Check NHRA rulebook. That's just an inadequate attempt at an altered...
    Cheater slicks were an end run around drag rules, not road rules...NHRA required tires with tread and defined tread as at least two grooves--plus the rubber had to go on stock width rims. So--narrow slicks with tiny little grooves instantly appeared. No one normal ran them on the street, except perhaps briefly for a couple late night runs on Saturday. No one cared that they might be dangerous or illegal--they weren't run on the street because of extremely short lifespan and long cost. If a streetable car had cheaters, they lived in the trunk except when actually racing...
    If you want to live in 1959, do a bit of research--Old School Rodz doesn't count!
     
  18. HEATHEN
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    To me, what you're considering with your Hilborn is just the 2006 version of retrofitting '59 Buick drums to your '40 Ford brakes; it's making a good thing better, and there's nothing "fake" about that.
     
  19. CadillacKid
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    I agree.
     
  20. ROADRAT EDDIE
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    Fake steel braided hoses make me want to gouge my eyes out with a pencil
     
  21. CadillacKid
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    That's cool...now I just have to convince myself of this...
     
  22. InjectorTim
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    My rule is that if I can't find an example of something being done in the old days I won't do it. This rule isn't foolproof though, there was just as much ****py stuff going on back then, mostly because of J.C. Whitney.:p
     
  23. Squablow
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    If I can touch them, they're real. Fake ****s are made of Kleenex.

    I'm not much for the Fauxtina, or Fauxtinkeling, as it's been called. I dig old crusty paint jobs that are actually old crusty paint jobs. But taking fibergl*** cars and putting imitation rust on them is really going too far. Especially since there are lots of old crusty cars out there to start with.

    And, I'd like to put some real bullet holes in the people who have those fake bullet hole stickers all over their cars. That was funny for about two minutes, now it's frickin' retarded.
     
  24. Thirdyfivepickup
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    A wise man once said....

    "sure a gl*** eye is nice... but you can't see out of it..."
     
  25. Detonator
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    Hilborn updated to EFI = great.
    Fake clutch pedals = ridiculous.
     
  26. I know that there were a few 2-bbls. hidden inside gutted blower cases in the old days.
     
  27. caffeine
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    when fake doesnt help function. thats just..............excuse my choice of words "Retarded"

    i.e. fake kick start on a motorcycle.
     
  28. HEATHEN
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    I'm in agreement on the bullet hole decals--they look like something I would have thought was reall cool on my bike when I was 8.
     
  29. lucky_1974
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    Bruce always makes good sense in his posts. To me a hot rod should have function...fake stuff has no function, it is an attempt to add to the form and flow of the design... thats customs stuff not hotrod stuff...thats my thoughts.
     
  30. hotrodladycrusr
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    :D :D :D
     
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