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Technical Where to get individual fill valves for air shocks?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by evintho, Apr 18, 2022.

  1. evintho
    Joined: May 28, 2007
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    Yeah......I know! Funds are tight and I just can't swing new or re-arched leaf springs for my '54 right now. I got a good deal on some Hi-Jackers #49105, but they only come with a 'Tee' fill valve. I need to find individual fill valves for each shock so I can 'balance' the rear ride height. The car leans 3/4" to the left. Anyone have a recommendation or link?
     
  2. I would ***ume you could go to a Napa or truck parts store and use air brake fittings, compression or push lock. What size line is it?
     
  3. Moedog07
    Joined: Apr 11, 2011
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    Google search should show a few online possibilities or you could always check eBay.
     
  4. Jokester
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    AK64 Monroe air shock kit.
     
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  6. Way back in the good ol' bad ol' days, I had air shocks that I would tweak the air pressure for each side in the back for the drag strip.
    I couldn't afford anything fancy. I just had 2 Schrader valves mounted inside the trunk, a tire pump, and a pocket pressure gauge.
    It's been a long time but I don't remember having any problems finding the valves and connecting hardware.
    I did it for traction. I would suggest adjusting the springs/suspension to correct the height issue. 3/4" using air pressure probably won't affect the ride or throw your balance off much..... but it's the wrong way and not the correct fix.
    I usually buy these types of misc, hardware on amazon-bay.
     
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  7. evintho
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    Looks to be 1/8" O.D.

    All I really need are the schrader valves.

    After some searching I found the Gabriel kit 140656
    https://www.amazon.com/Gabriel-1406...t=&hvlocphy=1014257&hvtargid=pla-569462859510

    However, the Monroe kit is half that price and has 1/8" tubing so I'm gonna try that and see if it works.
    https://www.amazon.com/Monroe-AK64-...t=&hvlocphy=1014257&hvtargid=pla-448699622786
     
  8. '51 Norm
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    from colorado

    I bought an air shock line kit last week at the local Orielly's. Less than 20 bucks. It had nice 90 degree fittings for the shocks, lots of tubing but only one valve. Since I already had one valve that came with the air shocks, problem solved.
     
  9. Mr48chev
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  10. The 39 guy
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    A quick search gave me this result. Looks like some good choices.
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  11. 1971BB427
    Joined: Mar 6, 2010
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    Monroe sells a dual fill kit for air shocks for anyone wanting to have a separate line to each shock. About $12 the last time I got one. Most of the chain parts stores have them in stock.
     
  12. Lots of options, Rockauto sells Monroe kit AK-64 for $12, as mentioned above. Ask around the neighborhood, someone may have the pieces in their "save" bin. I know I always scavenge good parts when doing repairs; although I run out of storage space sometimes!
     
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  13. woodiewagon46
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    McMaster Carr has them listed under "Air Fill Valves".
     
  14. A 2 B
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    I have a few here taken off of Harley air adjustable shocks. A lot of those get replaced with better aftermarket shocks. Try a local bike shop. Can't you use a T'd valve as a single? DSC07233.JPG
     
  15. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
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    jnaki

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    Hello,

    When I bought my 65 El Camino new, I was happy that it came with air shocks as standard equipment. The heavy loads we were carrying had lowered the back end of any station wagon, sedan or truck. So, air shocks from the factory was the best thing since Strawberry Jello. The air inlet valve was mounted on the narrow panel behind the top of the seatbacks, on the p***enger side. Not noticeable to anyone walking by the 65 El Camino at first glance. In our opinion, the valve should have been on the driver's side to make the common everyday air usage have easier access.

    But, even with the new air shocks, it was a h***le to constantly go to the gas station to fill up through the valve and get the ride height correct for the heavy load that was coming as soon as we got home. If the load was heavy, the empty bed looked like a stink bug with its tail raised as high as it would go up. It was better to have a little more air in the shocks than not enough. So, for the short two block drive, the tail end being high was accepted.

    When the load was in place, the El Camino was level and rode like it was floating on air… well, at least it was in the back bed. The constant air pressure check at the gas station and using the pocket pencil air valve stick was good, but, it got to be a pain to constantly take the pocket valve guide and check the air pressure.

    So, when I found a complete dial gauge and “T” fitting on it, it was a perfect solution to a constant problem. Now, at least I could see what the pressure was going to be for both rear air shocks. A few emergency times, we loaded the bed first and took it to the gas station for some air. No one had home air compressors of any kind at the time. The El Camino looked as if we lowered the rear end and raised the fronts, like our neighbor’s lowrider cars and their skid plates.
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    Jnaki

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    The one thing I found out is that the threads from the valve tip installed on the little flat panel behind the seats and the threaded lines needed some tape or thread sealer. Hand tightening was also not the best solution and a slight tightening with a crescent wrench made sure there was no leakage through the threads.

    When the work/play day was over and the bed was empty again, the air was let out to allow the bed to go back to level at empty. The handling was much better at that level arrangement. There was enough air left over to give the empty bed some support and the El Camino handled well.

    We drove our 65 El Camino for 125k miles and the air shocks lasted all of the time with good management and sense. The new owner was a kid and did not want the gauge behind the seatbacks. So, I still have the original gauge from 1965 in my garage drawer. It is a relic. There are newer ones on the market…


    I told our neighbor with the 1964 model El Camino about the gauge for his heavy loads. He was old school. He did not mind the nose in the air, lowered back of his 64 El Camino as he drove to the gas station for some much needed air support for his workday load in the back.

    As far as limited budget, get what you can to fit correctly and the cost is worth the effort. But, both air shocks should rise or lower at the same time. They are not for some mechanical problem of leveling or bent frame solutions. That is another fix it arena. They are not a Band Aid for uneven shocks mounts, bent frame or other problems that need fixing first. YRMV
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    12 years and 125k miles of ownership was a fun adventure. Those air shocks got a daily dose of usage from anything put in the back, including several 40-50 pound longboards in the early days of road trips. Or two 250cc desert racing motorcycles and tools/parts, etc. The only time when the air shocks weren’t filled, was when the surfboards got shorter, lighter and cause no extra weight problems for a level bed.

    upload_2022-4-20_4-58-52.png A lightweight 7' 6 " Lighting Bolt surfboard strapped down, in its time period of surf transportation.
     

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