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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Aussie Chev, Jun 18, 2016.

  1. Randy Radford
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    Art's muffler on Northgate mile? I've heard a similar story from the last owner of Art's , Hap Mapes.

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  2. 117harv
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    Question asked and answered in the first few posts, and as what seems to be a regular progression, we turned off at Thread-Direction.jpg exit 17...
     
  3. "Thoughts Pertaining to Youth, Hot Rodders and Chevrolet.”

    “The association of Chevrolet with hot rods, speeds and such is probably inadmissible, but possibly the existence of the Corvette provides the loop hole. If the special parts are carried as RPO [regular production option] items for the Corvette, they undoubtedly will be recognized by the hot rodders as the very parts they were looking for to hop up the Chevy.”

     

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  4. This is great !!! I think I'm going to give up jerry springer for this post . I too am under the impression that I hotrod is a 20's-30's car or truck but don't really give a shit what anyone else calls anything. I also don't mind hearing from the older group what there view is since they were around when this culture started. If we want to start a bigger shit fest let's try to find out who built the first r#t rod .oh, happy Father's Day to all that apply.
     
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  5. olskool34
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    I know that there was a 53 Chevy running around Milford, MI with a 265 under the hood. Many people have told me about it. The GM proving grounds is in Milford and apparently somebody that worked there did it. I think it was in late 53 or early 54. I always wondered what happened to that car.
     
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  6. henryj1951
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    and i serviced a 1954 that was given to a retiree (from chevy)
    that HAD every GM option across the board windows seats
    EVERY THING ... IT had a 265 in it (yes a 1954 moredoors no less)
    location ----> socal


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  7. Kinda what I was going to say. About ten days after the first one was sold!

    Ben
     
  8. Squablow
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    Interesting topic but very little in the way of photographic evidence. Would like to see the earliest known picture of one in a 34-older car.
     
  9. Ed Cole's son Dave recounts how his dad had one of the earliest prototypes stuffed into a black 53 Chevy and them driving to Baldwin MI, reaching 100 MPH. Cole kept the car at his home, sometimes going out late at night to work through engineering problems.
     
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  10. DDDenny
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    Interesting letter from GM.

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  11. Aussie Chev
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    Thanks to the guys with informative replies

    Although in the spirit of rodding the dream truck I would have classed as a custom even back then.

    So who ? What ? When ?
     
  12. Gary Addcox
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    In total agreement with you, 30tudor. An '80s hotrod ? Holy fuck ! ! !
     
  13. flynstone
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  14. bangngears
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    I do not see a ram horn in the photo, its a header. Hot rods have 3 pedals, no fenders and scares old people, dogs and children . Oh yeau, one more. Customs get girls, hot rods get rid of them.
     
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  15. arkiehotrods
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    John Force calls his funny car his "hot rod." Someone needs to call him and tell him he can't do that any more.
     
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  16. I always win, of course I am a legend in my own mind. :D

    So here's the deal, "Who's car is the coolest?" Well that is probably open to discussion isn't it. "Oh yea, well I get more chicks than you do and the chicks I get tell the story." Well chicks is probably open to discussion too, isn't it. o_O:)

    I look at it this way, I am shoving a small blockin my sedan. well aft of where it should be. So I drive the 3 hours to the local track and along comes Jim ( @squirrel ) in his Nova. We hook up and he spanks me like a naughty child. "Oh yea? Well but mines a hotrod and yours isn't.":rolleyes:
     
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  17. young'n'poor
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    squirrel's car is too cool! I watched the live drag week feed and loved seeing that thing come up to the line...
     
  18. DDDenny
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    I spose now yer gonna tell me my Nova ain't a hot rod.
     
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  19. Baumi
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    To me, a Hot Rod is a modified ( as in chopped / channeled/ z´ed/ sectioned/ dropped, maybe all of them,maybe none, depends on the era) early American car up to about 1936 or so, mostly fenderless or stripped down,which is built for going faster than stock. At least that is what comes to my mind when I hear the term "Hot Rod".Everything else is just a hopped up or souped up street car. My 56 Chevy is all but underpowered, but I would never call it a Hot Rod , maybe its just a quick, a hot rodded 56 Chevy.

    I won´t argue with anyone , but to me a 61 409 bubbletop will never be a Hot Rod even when it does wheelies and runs 8s in the 1/4. Maybe "gasser" or just a "drag car".

    I know you could care less what some guy from Bavaria calls a hot rod or not, but I felt like I would share this... now it´s time for a beer.
     
  20. Well yours isn't just because its yours. If I owned it then it would be a hot rod and the coolest besides. Cause I get more chicks then you do.:D
     
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  21. porkchop4464
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    Oh man! Really! Tri-Five not Hot Rod? Well, I guess Hot Rod Mag got it wrong, and so did "American Graffiti," "Hollywood Nights," and "Two Lane Blacktop." Sorry, can't bite on this one. Think of every Fifties diner and poster.
    http://www.hotrod.com/features/history/photos/hrdp-1004-1955-chevy-hot-rod/
     
  22. Really you're going to post about movies? Give me a break.

    and this? A modern tri five is your example on a traditional hotrod site? I think that maybe Freiburger may have missed it a couple of decades on this one. Maybe this is where it all began for him.

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    Come on you can do better than that, you're not dumb. I know you're not I have read your posts before.
     
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  23. porkchop4464
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    Oh, Come on, PB;

    Even you can't find some nonsense to support this claim. A 55 is a hot rod. There is no question. They can go stock but they also can be hot-rodded. Give me a break! It just get's so out of whack with the classifications.
    So I guess in "Graffiti," it was a hot rod racing a street machine?
     
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  24. American Graffiti wasn't even a car flick it was a coming of age flick.

    My point is that if you are going to quote an example at least try to post something that the hot rod snobs would consider a viable example. You get a pre '48 guy even one that is just your basic street rodder on a traditional site, and he is going to take one look at the car the cars featured and say. "Well that proves I'm right look at those billeted muthas."

    Stand on your own virtue man, you have gained enough respect around here to not need any more then that. ;)
     
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  25. porkchop4464
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    Yeah, I hear you, but some times these posts are just too easy to jump on and stir. I think some of us would fight about the color of underwear if we got the chance.

    Pork
    Keep the Hammer Down P and B!
     
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  26. porkchop4464
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    Just for the hell of it:

    Oxford English Dictionary
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    1. a motor vehicle that has been specially modified to give it extra power and speed.
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    1. drive a hot rod.
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  27. young'n'poor
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    I agree the classifications get so out of whack, but I think some people are real hung up on the term hot rod. Your car not being stock doesn't make it a hot rod automatically. It doesn't mean a '55 isn't cool, or couldn't be built in a pre-64 style.

    Plus in the context of American graffiti, yea it was a street machine against a hot rod. Not sure if you've seen it but that was the premise of the entire Milner/Falfa thing. Milner went out of his way to build up his old coupe and he is worried and frustrated that a later model car with a built engine and not much else put the screws to everybody in town. It wasn't just Milner feeling old, he was feeling old because his years of work and dedication to that old ass coupe couldn't stand up to the newer generation of stock bodied nearly stock cars.

    Let's not even get into two lane blacktop because as iconic and rad as that movie is, it's about two dudes with a heavily modified race car ripping around on the street. That movie isn't trying to pass anything off as a traditional hot rod, and the only coupe in the movie gets portrayed as a relic driven by a country bumpkin who gets waxed by the hero car....

    '55 chebbies are cool. Nobody is arguing they aren't. They can be cool and also not be a traditional hot rod. Did people modify tri fives at the end of the traditional hot rod period we discuss here? Absolutely they did. By the end of the same time period guys were also modifying British cars too, and we don't consider 50's Alfas and jags traditional hot rods here, even with v8's.

    You build whatever you want and call it whatever name you like, but in the context of a site about traditional customs and traditional hot rods, a later fifties car with a built motor isn't the same thing as a deuce or A-V8.
     
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  28. seb fontana
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  29. AHotRod
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    Dear Lord, ..... you guys need to get a real job !
     
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  30. If they didn't write a song about it, it's not real.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Rod_Lincoln

    "Hot Rod Lincoln" is a song by American singer-songwriter Charlie Ryan, first released in 1955. It was written as an answer song toArkie Shibley's 1951 hit "Hot Rod Race" which describes a race in San Pedro, Los Angeles between two hot rod cars, a Ford and aMercury, which stay neck-and-neck until both are overtaken by "a kid in a hopped-up Model A". "Hot Rod Lincoln" is sung from the perspective of this third driver, whose own hot rod is a Ford Model A body with a Lincoln-Zephyr V12 engine, overdrive, a four-barrel carburetor, 4:11 gear ratio, and safety tubes."

    Next up, two back to back hits: My 409 and Deadman's Curve.
     
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