Whos running 4 carbs on a Flatty?

I just got this intake in for my Flathead project and was wondering how many of you guys run 4 2's? Lets see some pictures too...

 

that's about 2 too many.

 

Interesting manifold, but in reality I'm thinking it would be a****** on a street engine. Would require at least a 400jr cam. One of the most common problems with flatties is to over-carburett (?) them. It looks pretty cool though.

 

The carbs will be jetted down to be suitable for street use. Stromberg 97 here on the HAMB will be doing those. He already did a fantastic job on the custom linkage!

 

jet down? with no plenum or balance tube of some sort, idling will be your worst problem I would think.

 

that's a really unusual 4 carb setup - waay better than an open plenum 4 carb setup. you can get a large multicarb setup to work if the velocity across the venturi is sufficient to generate an adequate vacuum signal - the best way is to dedicate a single venturi throat to each cylinder.

where the hell didja get something like that? I'd LOVE to fart with it just to see how it worked!

 

I just peeped it off the Hamb; supposedly it's one of 8 made B4 the guy packed up the pattern and went away. If the pic is current - the shiny-ness of the machined areas along with the zinc plating sez it's a newer piece.

 

B4 Stu started making fuelie setups, he experimented with a multicarb setup like this; supposedly he had to run a different carb on the 1-2 ports to offset the reversion of the funky flattie firing order.

That's about all I know...

 

It's new as in within the last 20-30 years. This one has never heen used. I think it was either Jim or Bill Lattin. The story goes to say that he made 8 of these, kept 2 for himself and sold the rest for reimbursement for the casting cost. 2 were supposedly destroyed that were sold to the public since then.

The mainfold caught my eye a few years ago when I say one either on ebay or the HAMB. So when this one came up for sale, I jumped at the opportunity. It's more for shock value/the sake of having it. I will run it on the flatty, if it isn't what I want performance wise, I'll try another.

 

THey are bing re-popped. I saw them for sale recently before finding a very very sweet Harrell three pot.

I'll try and dig up the website that was doing them.

Danny

 

Thanks, It would be very interesting to check that out.


Nobody running 4 carbs? I can't be the only one crazy enough to try it...?

 

I know Tony Baron is repopping the Tatterfield-Baron 4 carb intake but they are different than these.

 

Jim still has the pattern and makes em periodically. I have no idea how they'd run on the street, supposedly they were for full on deal.
The one that Stu Hilborn ran was not designed by him, but by Eddie Miller. That is precisely why it has the Miller decal on it in most pics of it.
Eddie's son Jim duplicated this very set up for the restoration/duplication/recreation of Bill Warths/Stu Hillborns original.

 

I hope to ... someday... weiand intake w/ big logo 81s

 

Sooo...

Not to take over this thread, but whats the skinny runny 3x94's on a flathead? Can it be done reliably?

Danny

 

Didnt read through every post, but found this website last nite matter of fact

http://www.lakeheaders.com/Flathead_ford_intake.html

Hope it helps

 

Jager,

Thats the website I saw.

Danny

 

I dont have a flatty, just thought that manifold was kinda different.

 

Hello..The copy of Lattin is new..It says Gear Drive on it..The one that Scott has is original..
Yes, Scott, 4, 97s will work, remember, what goes in must get out, headers.......
Enjoy...

 

Well, 4x2 will work on a street flathead if you have a killer engine. The real problem with this intake will be no plenum chamber with this style carburetion. To run an unbalanced intake set-up, you need to be able to tune each indivudual intake runner. You'd need something along the lines of Weber carbs that were designed to run like that.

I'm not saying you can't get this to work, it will. As a matter of fact, for full out throttle it will work just fine, but expect to have a battle on your hands to get this to run nice for you at idle or anything up to more than 40% throttle. It's just the nature of this style intake.

Matt

 

No bidders yet, starts at $750


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I have run 4 carbs in the past.I am running 4carb(injection) now over a blower right now.PM me if you want to talk.

 

If this wont work on the street for ya,The Ram Rods would like to try it on there flatty powered Hamb Dragster,We have lot's of cam.

 

No problem. You just have to shave a little off the front of two carbs, as its a little tight for space.

 

I think that 81's will actually be a better setup than 97's for most any street engine. It will be lots of fun trying to get them in sync - and keeping them in sync. I don't know the runner layout of the Weiand or the Edelbrock, but I wonder if a pregressive linkage is possible.

I've picked up enough 81 cores for a special 6-carb blower setup that I'm putting together this winter for my 4-71 blown flathead. I'm going to run the center two off-idle, then bring in the outer four in a progressive manner. Of course I have no clue how it will run until I get the motor put together a run it a bit.

 

Running 4 carbs without any mixing plenum can be done - but you'll have lots of fun getting 4 carbs to run exactly the same. I bet on most street engines, that 4 stromberg 81's would be better . . . but we all know how much they cost (even as rough cores).

I think the most important thing will be trying to "match" 4 carbs. If you have lots of $$$ - then the new strombergs would be the best place to start. Otherwise, I'd try to replace/buy matched sets of emulsion tubes, jets, oversize throttle shaft, new throttle plates, floats, etc.. If you guy everything the same - will probably have the best chance to get it running right. Also - you might try to work on two carbs at a time - by using a regular plenum 2 deuce manifold -- to get two carbs in sync and running as close as possible.

If you're running it on the street, then getting it to idle and run smoothly (and keeping it that way) will be the biggest challange.

Keep us posted, would love to hear how it turns out.

 

Damn, thanks for the link Jager. That's a real piece of work.