whos the best touble shooter on the hamb ?

Don't make the mistake of not checking things again because it worked before, or is new.
That bites alot of us, even those with years of experience.

 

Jake look into an ignitor kit for your application ,Sounds like you don't have a feeler guage or dwell meter ,You will need these .Points are not what they are cracked up to be , Im not trying to discourage you ,Your choke is it manual .

 

Check for sand between the points if you have no spark!

 

Double check the firing order, pull the #1 spark plug check compression and get the cyl. on the compression stroke at TDC then double check that the distributor rotor is line up with the number one plug wire. The trick i like for getting old motors fired up is to run the gas line off fuel pump into a coffee can so you can see if the pumps working if it doesn't gravity feed the carb with an old lawn mower fuel tank or some thing along those lines.

 

Ihe pump is not ****ing the gas up ... the guy i got it from said it might need one ,, i have a can of gas connected to the fuel pump

 

im gonna check the plugs , .. i did use alot of spray and about a cup of gas! maybe more ...

 

somebody said something about binding ... and i get schooled a little on binding

 

I hope we are not heading for a Darwin Award.

 

ajustable johnson: read and everyone else ............. I have juice going to dissy even when not cranking it ... is that the way its suppose to be or does that tell us something ??

 

johnson ,... i know .. i was tring to see if it was shot ..... or worked .. the guy i got it from was a real character . lived out of a 2 bay !

 

ok so i should check for wet plugs ... check the dizzy ..

 

Binding...what I mean here is resistance to turning over. If you have your wires switched, you're firing order will cause it to try to fire out of sequence. This will typically manifest itself with moments where it hesitates while cranking.

 

thanks flamed ... ya im scare to throw parts at this car ,.and make trouble shooting worse .. what other them switched wires could cause binding .?

 

gas has washed out the rings;put a few squirts of oil into each plug hole.if it started before it should start right up'

 

jam bottle : thanks for the info ... My brain is fried ! I blew the ****** in on rod ,.... and my buddy just crashed into my wifes car ... shes in ny and has no idea of whats been going on at home .!


any info is welcomed ..

 

Jake's....timing could be off - usually from timing chain / gears jumping or from the distributor being advanced or retarded, or being "a tooth" off if it had been removed and reinstalled wrong.

Someone earlier mentioned to ensure you're at Top Dead Center (TDC) on the #1 cylinder. When you are at TDC, the rotor should be pointing at the contactor on the distributor cap for the #1 wire. You need to verify TDC on the COMPRESSION STROKE at the cylinder and the timing mark, not just by the timing mark (using the timing mark could have you on the exhaust stroke). Easiest way to do this...with ignition OFF...pull a plug, place a piece of fuel line in the hole until it bottoms out. Turn the engine over at the crank while watching the fuel line push out of the cylinder. When it no longer pushes, see if you are on or near your timing mark. If not, you need to repeat. (Another method is by placing your thumb over the spark plug hole - you'll feel the compression build, indicating you are nearing TDC on the compression stroke). Once this is complete, if your rotor does not point towards the contactor on the cap, you'll need to loosen and rotate your distributor to reposition.

 

If the fuel pump is working make sure that you have the correct side going to the carb or you'll just pump all the fuel out of the carb, took me two days to figure that one out after buying a new pump

 

thanks flamed ........ ill try that too... but it fire up and ran smooth the first time it started ... i just don t want to make more of a mess ........

ok one question that someone pmed me about ... I have a wire coming from the ign switch on dash to coil ... that is suppose to go to the pos side of the coil right ?? and the neg goes to the to the dissy ! right or wrong ?

 

its got to be something dumb i did ... i just need to check eveything .............. but someone tell me about the pos and neg of the coil ....... i have neg going to the dis and the ign going in to the pos .

 

You know, I just realized how hard it is to explain to someone something that is "ingrained" in me. I start explaining something...only to realize I'm making ***umptions...and then have to add more to explain that ***umption!

mGoing back to the original post now: If nothing else works, maybe go backwards...put the original coil on, see if there's an improvement. I have bought bad coils before.

 

can coils somtimes work ? cuz im getting spark at the plug when i tested it with a plug ? or if a coils is bad its dead and does nothing at all? Thanks for every one for helping out !

 

I love this site

 

If I did this right, this should link to a simple diagram. What you stated should be right.

 

I agree...I love this site too...great to be able to help when needed, and get help when needed!

Yes...a coil can "sometimes" work...usually when they get hot, but they can just be bad or weak. You didn't mention...what color is the spark? It should be blue or white...if it's yellow, it indicates weak spark. The condenser can also be bad or weak. A condenser, if not familiar, builds up the electrical charge (condenses), and then discharges it via the points.

 

ok at least i got that right ! haha thanks flamed ...

 

I like the fake fire in the diagram. LOL.

 

the spake when i grounded a new plug . was blue / white ..

 

Im gonna try the old coil too!

 

lol spark

 

spark doesn't necessarily mean good spark.

Not enough dwell will still get you some spark.

Set the points at .019/19thousandths with the dizzy cam lobe at it's peak opening the points. This is a good place to start. A piece of paper is only .003/3 thousandths and the most. The old trick used to be a folded over matchbook cover, that was close.

Do that first, make sure you have a good spark. It should be bright and snappy. Next fuel, ***uming you have enough compression to make it work. 100 psi is minimum.

As was suggested earlier, put a few squirts of oil in the cylinders, this will help with the compression if you flooded it and washed the cylinders down with gas.

Good luck.