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Why are 32 ford firewalls so expensive?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by s10ace, Jan 21, 2010.

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  1. Yeh I know these are antique, vintage, old stuff etc. But 299.00 ( for plain custom, no feet) to 799.00 (reproduction sometimes discounted to 599.00) and 400.00 for a used rusty, holy and bent, twisted feet, seems a lot of bucks. What do you think? Anyone out there know where you can get one cheaper that 299.00? or have some decent pics and/or specs that I can reproduce one? Any Ideas?

    s10ace
     
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  2. carcrazyjohn
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    The magic year 32 ........... Thats why . Im sorry but on the other part I cant help you .
     
  3. fuel10922
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    When ever 1932 is in the description. You can count on the price going way up!
     
  4. vendettaautofab
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    Show me the orginals for $400, I would be interested!

    Anything 32 is going to be costly... Budget and 32 dont go together, atleast original 32 stuff. Original prices drive reproduction prices and vice versa.
     
  5. Magic year I believe, but is there anthing magic in the construction?
     
  6. PoPo
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    only made for ONE year, and it happens to be the Year we all STRIVE to want in our garages, so we PAY for it accordingly.

    demand raises the price, just like oil
     
  7. PoPo
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    double post, sorry
     
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  8. jambottle
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    this one on evilbay just sold for $365,had panel delivery cowl and looks like a decent cowl vent.#290391262130
     
  9. metalshapes
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    If you look at it closely, its a pretty complicated part, that is made up of several pieces.

    And a lot of '32s were Hot Rodded, so a lot of firewalls were cut.

    And they were removable, so I bet a lot of them got lost too.
    ( unlike a Model A which were welded in )

    So I'm guessing there are more '32 bodies than original '32 firewalls left over.

    ( maybe thats why garnish modings are high too )



    But maybe the real reason '32 prices are high, is so people can ***** about it....
     
  10. Pat Pryor
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    yea i hate that. i told the brookville guy he was an ***hole idk wich guy it was but i told him! i think it was one of the famly members. but i think im gonna make a 32 next n ill pound out the firewalls for $100 a firewall!
     
  11. 56don
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    If you don't need it to be exactly like an original,make one out of flat stock.I saw a nice one made out of flat stainless sheetmetal.Polished,it looked great.
     
  12. metalshapes
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    Right...

    I bet nobody will ever be able to see the difference. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Rusty
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    Cause i keep cutting them up!!!!!!!!!!! Hot Rods rules!!!!!
     
  14. Pat Pryor
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    lol ya get what ya pay for
     
  15. metalshapes
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    Hahaha...

    Good comeback.:D

    You are right...
     
  16. 50stude p/u
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    The law of Supply & Demand.

    thats why rusty 69 mach 1s that were wrapped around trees are going for $10,000
     

  17. Pat Pryor,
    I want one of those hammers. Good job on your coupe. Did you finish it?


    Does any one out there have any detailed pictures or a 32 Ford firewall? Front, back, sides, top edge, side edge, feet?
     
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  18. cracker head
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    '32 Fords are over rated
     

  19. Does any one have any pics of their own brand of firewall for their 32 Ford or Chev or ? Post them if you have any. Thanks,

    s10ace
     
  20. lockwoodkustoms
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    ****it............ put a Model A firewall in it
     
  21. Pat Pryor
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    which one? and thanks. no just been taking my time. i get lazy sometimes
     
  22. KENDEUCE
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    In all seriousness, the firewall is the main attachnent for the front of the body and it adds a lot of rigidity for the cowl shake problems. Some times you have to bite the bulet and step up.
     
  23. these are the words of someone that doesn't own one.:)
     
  24. banditomerc
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    How much are repops? can't be as much as originals....can they?
     
  25. jerry dixey
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    So you told the guy at Brookville that he was an A-hole? Wow Did you tell him he was an A-hole for putting about one million dollars on the line to take a chance that some folks might want reproduction 32 roadster parts? How about for doing the same thing for coupe bodies? I would guess that lots of folks here have bought some of their Model A pieces too. Thanks for calling him an A-hole. Maybe he will take the hint an stop doing all these stupid things.
     
  26. 49coupe
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    It's not all greed. Think of the tooling it takes to pound out a firewall. You now have to recover that over a limited number of sales. Do the math, they can't be cheap.

    I've had guys ask me why I didn't reproduce my '55-56 Mercury exhaust tips out of stamped steel instead of cast aluminum, just like the originals. Well, if the tooling costs $25,000 since they are side specific (i.e. two moulds) and I intend to produce 80 sets, the mould amortization is $312 a set, plus welding, chrome plating, baffle plate and a modest ROI for interest on the mould and I'd have $700 in a set of exhaust tips before any profit. I doubt I'd sell 80 sets at $900.

    The same logic applies to any repop parts where they had to recreate the tooling.
     

  27. I started the thread because there was a major noticable difference. I would think some one out there would have a cheap solution. The guy with the plywood idea and the guy with the pounding sheetmetal idea would probably get together and pound out a few firewalls for about under 100 dollars for the materials and a few hours of labor. Think about it, frame rails are some heavy steel that are stamped. You can get 2 for around 600.00 Add 125.00 for boxing plates.
    I would think it takes more resources to create a set of frame rails versus a firewall. Retail on some of these repros run 599 - 799.
     
  28. Harrison
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    It is what it is.

    Step up & buy one or make one...

    ...or sit around & ***** about it & get nowhere.

    JH
     
  29. E.C.
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    those are the words of someone that doesn't know ****.:)
     
  30. Larry T
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    Yep, and from what I see they have been for 60 or 70 years.
    Larry T
     
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