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why do some people part out do-able cars?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by punkabilly1306, Sep 3, 2007.

  1. punkabilly1306
    Joined: Aug 22, 2005
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    just took a look thru the cl***ifieds and saw what looked to be two different cars that were very far from s****per condition being parted out...i just don't understand it, this **** is getting harder and harder to come by (whole cars that is) and some people are parting them out...is it for the money? or just so they don't have to **** with them anymore? or am i just rambling and talking stupid?
     
  2. UnIOnViLLEHauNT
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    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
     
  3. The_Monster
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    sometimes its because they dont have a ***le or its a salvaged ***le and no one will buy it. most likely they had it for sale for some time and now the wife is riding his *** hard to "clean up the driveway!!"
     
  4. Duration
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    the same reason some people **** up good cars. they have to get there hands on them and "make there mark". at least the ones that get parted out might help a good car get back on the road. thats the way i look at it!
     
  5. punkabilly1306
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    i figured the $$$$$$$$$$ money part was a big reason
     
  6. fatty mcguire
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    I figure most of the time they try to sell it whole and no1 wants it so figure part it out and make some money
     
  7. The37Kid
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    Don't know what two cars you're talking about, but sure, parting out a car is based on the fact that parts are worth more than the whole car. If people didn't part out cars were would all the others like it get their missing parts? Helps guys like me fund the projects I'm working on as keepers. :)
     
  8. Harms Way
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    Back in the 70's there was a guy in my town everyone called "Model A Bob", He would buy complete Model A's, that were either a old, or amateur restoration and tear it apart, and part it out,... he said as a complete car he could only get about 70% of what he could get if he sold it for parts. (I bought a complete 40 Ford Coupe minus engine and trans from him in 76 for $300.00, and a beautiful 31 Coupe body for $250.00 with real decent paint and interior,... )
     
  9. Scrap Heap
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    Some people have more projects than time or money. You might have to sacrifice one to finish another. Parting out a car can benefit both sides.
     
  10. Jalopy Jim
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    While looking for parts for my 38 I have noticed on e-bay there are a few that alway have 38-39 ford truck parts. Over the last year plus I have seen trucks parted out peice by peice usually with a week or two between auctions. I guess I have not noticed it to a great extend on the HAMB but I am sure it is here.
     
  11. ss34coupe
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    money and stupidity, a bad combination.
     
  12. Deuce Roadster
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    Some cars are worth more in pieces than together ...
    I have parted out over ONE HUNDRED cars over the years ...
    Some I regret ... most I just forget ... :D

    Sold a bunch of 68 to 72 Nova stuff to Camaro guys ... 12 bolts, transmissions and stuff. 1970 to 1972 Monte Carlos parted out to the Chevelle guys ...

    Some had fire issues ... some were legal buys ( but no papers ... Sheriff sale ) most were just unloved ... They gave up their good parts so another Chevy could make it back to highway or drag strip ... and I put project $$$ in my pocket .
     
  13. Gasserfreak
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    Well, if you think you could have fixed "them" up You should have bought them yourself and saved them. If you got the time and money to save them ALL, then do it, instead of complaining about it. I sure if you made said persons a reasonable offer for the whole thing they probably would have sold it to you. I'm parting out a car myself right now. why, because I got what I needed off of it, and it was beyond my time and budget limitations to "save" it. BTW it was for sale for 3 months before I started hackin' it up. Wasn't so much about money as it was time and space. Next time you want to buy a part that you need for your car, don't buy it because some other "savable" car gave its life so you could have one for yours.


    Drew
     
  14. I know this is O/T, but I ended up with a '77 Monte Carlo that my brother sideswiped a garde rail with, found a fender and door, straightened the quarter panel, had it in primer, damned nice low mileage car, but no-one wanted to buy it! BUT, being the nice guy I am, I gave it to this chick who needed a ride, I dought it ever got paint but my consciense is clear.
     
  15. old dirt tracker
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    if every car was fixed where would the good deals on parts come from. no u pull it yards no swap meet deals. parts cars are like organ donners. be thank ful.
     
  16. FoMoCoPower
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    yup.....if nobody ever parted out any cars...guess what....none of us would have anything that looked nice ior even ran......it`s part of the hobby...
     
  17. pasadenahotrod
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    The fact is that old cars, especially Fords and Chevrolets, are worth more in parts than whole for builders.
    I once bought a very nice 31 Model A Coupe, with a ***le, from a disenchanted restorer. The car was rust free, had a rebuilt engine, transmission and rearend, rebuilt 39-41 hydraulic brakes, steering column, a mint 31 shell and radiator, a mint 30 shell and radiator, 2 sets of cherry fenders all around, new runningboards and aprons, 2 complete sets of bumpers all around, a mint steel and a NEW fibregl*** one, 2 mint hoods, 3 headlamp bars and two sets of headlamps, 2 seats, a set of 5 nice 30-31 19" wheels and a set of 4 nice 35 16" stock Ford wheels, and boxes of new and used parts, and it rolled on a set of new 17" Firestone tires and tubes mounted on Kelsey-Hayes bent-spoke accessory Ford wheels!! Got it for $350, less than the cost of the rebuilt engine!
    Ran an ad in the paper for 10 days offering a complete car for 5X my investment, planned on keeping the spare parts and selling them later. Got a couple nibbles, no buyers. Waited 2 weeks, advertised Model A parts in the paper for 10 days. In 7 days I had sold everything but the ch***is, now rolling on naked 16" rims. Sold the K-Hs for the $100 ever the cost of the whole deal! Sold the body with gl*** deck lid and hood and radiator shell with ***le for the price I had the complete car for in the paper before. Six weeks later I sold the ch***is to another restorer who used it under a roadster pickup he was building.
    Originally figured I could sell the car for $1750 and the parts for another $500-$700. Ended up parting the little guy out for over $4500, more than it would have cost to buy a pretty nice running driving A Coupe at that time!

    I'd like to have a crack at a nice buildable 32 these days!!
     
  18. enjenjo
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    I have parted out a bunch of cars over the years. I have parted out four so far this year. Anything from a two year old car to something from the 20s. I advertise it whole, and if it doesn't sell it goes for parts. Some of you might remember a 48 Pontiac fastback I advertised on here about a year ago, a decent body with a good Ohio ***le. After it wouldn't sell for $250, a give away price, I parted it out. I have sold over $1000 in parts from it so far, and I still have parts left. The stripped body went to the s**** yard, and was crushed.

    I have parted out over 30 Camaros and Firebirds, including one Z28, and two IROC Z cars.

    I have no idea on the total, I know 20 years ago, it was over 200. And in 2001, I took 28 car hulks to one s****yard.

    I know Sterling Ashby, "Mr Merc", parted out over 500 49 to 51 Mercs over the years.
     
  19. 50dodge4x4
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    I've been known to buy whole cars if it had a part or two I needed. That would make the less then complete car = a parts car, reguardless of its condition. I got what I needed and others got what they needed. Do I feel guilty? Hell NO! Life goes on. Nowif someone would have stepped up and offered to buy what was left after I got the stuff I needed off of it, I would have sold the remains to them, but I would not have given it away.

    There are a lot of people that think non-complete cars are worthless. They are the same guys that cry about parting out good cars. Bought a car once that had the front fender and bumper I needed for my car. Some fool showed up after I'd pulled my parts and offered me less then the then current junk price for the car. His line was "I'm going to have to find a bumper and a fender so its got tro be cheap." My reply "the fender and bumper was in great shape, why do you think I bought the car? But the other fender and the hood are also great, as are a lot of other parts on this car, you can't posably think I was going to junkall those good parts did you?" Gene
     
  20. 49ratfink
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    hope one of the two cars you saw for parts wasn't my 51 chevy fleetline.

    no ***le. no vin number. no rockers. minimal floors patched with aluminum signs. rusted lower fenders and quarters. all 4 doors are just about useless due to rust. pictures don't always show how bad a car is.

    when it arrived here I was glad to see how big of a pile it really was. I have never parted out a car worth actually building. as a matter of fact I just sold a 60 El Camino for a grand that I know I could have parted and got 2 - 3000 for easy, but didn't because it was still a buildable car.
     
  21. povertyflats
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    When you are selling a complete car, the unwanted trade offers come in fast, and cash offers are almost always less than you want. Selling parts can be alot more lucrative.
     
  22. punkabilly1306
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    why is there some guy that always has to be a smart-***? and all the parts that go to my cars were off of rusted out piles of **** that would have been worth more if they went to the s****per..and if i could afford to save all of the restorable ones trust me i would!! that is the reason i gave up my 55' pontiac, not an ounce of rust on her or filler, so in my eyes it was too nice to start hackin up and i wanted to let someone else do something with it and i moved onto another one...i can understand parting out a car when a tree is growing thru it or the only thing left good on the car is the dash and doors but when there is a little rear quater rust and they are still parting it out that is what im talking about!!
     
  23. Salty
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    Exactly the point I was going to bring up....

    fact is your not the only one that complains about this, if some of these cars were that desirable why didnt they sell as a whole? fact is they are worth more as bits than the whole enchelada
     
  24. DrJ
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    A guy I know has two '57 Ford convertible hardtops.
    One is showroom stock restored and the other one was his "parts car" to salvage the few parts he needed to restore the other car.
    Where do you get the spare/missing parts for an old rare car restoration if you don't sacrafice another one like it?

    So, rather than s**** out the parts car, he had the audacity to customized it.
    You wouldn't believe the grief he gets from the restorer guys over how he "ruined" the custom. And it seems no amount of explaining that it WAS the parts car will satisfy these people.
    Sometimes it seems, in their eyes, he would have been "more holy" if he had completely parted out the parts car!

    Ya can't win either way you go.
    Usta be all the 4 dr cars were "parts cars"
    Now the rockerbilly guys and bettys think they are desireable so they are getting too expensive to cut up but still not worth putting any money into building.

    Yer damned if ya do or don't. :rolleyes:
     
  25. In my case I parted out a 69 Camaro,a 73 RS Z28 and a 68 Mustang GT fastback only because I could not get ***les for them.The money didn,t hurt either.....Most of the older cars I come across are too far gone to be brought back. They do however offer up many useable parts.Survival of the fittest comes to mind...
     
  26. punkabilly1306
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    like i said i totally understand if the car is a **** pile but i've seen some cars that were in pretty good shape get parted...and with ebay and what not its hard to imagine someone somewhere wouldn't want the whole thing...good point tho, your damned if you do your damned if you don't i guess
     
  27. Shifty Shifterton
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    One man's princess is another man's pig. Applies to every aspect of life.
     
  28. Gasserfreak
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    Wasn't being as smart ***, just pointing out that this is just another whinny ***ed post about. Save it or don't, I don't care, just don't ****in' complain about it. and I guess I could have just not read it and moved on. So I think thats what I'll do now. This thread is ****.
     
  29. punkabilly1306
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    thank you!!
     
  30. curtiswyant
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    I got some **** for parting out a '49 Ford awhile back. Sure, it could have been fixed by a brave soul, but that wasn't me, and I wanted to get as much money out of it as I could. I ended up getting probably three times what the whole car was worth and helped a few guys get their projects back on the road. I figure I bought the car with my own damn money, so I can do what I want with it! No parts of the car were "thrown away," in fact the guy that got the rolling shell said he was gonna make a 4x4 out of it. Oh well.
     

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