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Why is it that people want to sell a car until you try to give them cash?

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  1. coolbreeze1340
    Joined: Aug 18, 2009
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    I hear ya! Had some fool offer me $13,000 on a car listed at $18,500 from over 1200 miles away. Never asked any questions, never requested pictures, never asked to talk on the phone. Just a one line e-mail saying "$13,000 cash?" What a tool!
     
  2. Hnstray
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    You are being a bit hard on the people who commented that you should just accept the reality of the situation and move on instead of whining about it.

    None of them said they agreed with this method of doing business, rather, they are just more ;forgiving' or understanding' than you appear to be.

    For the record, I too agree "a man's word is his bond", but not everyone abides by that and those of us who do just need to keep that in mind when doing business with other people.

    What YOU need to ask yourself is this.....how would YOU have dealt with a bad case of 'buyers remorse' had that occurred to you before the deal was concluded. If you can honestly answer that you still would have done the deal, then you have a basis for being annoyed. But even if that is so, it doesn't do you any good to keep a grudge going.

    Ray
     
  3. Atwater Mike
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    WTF does an incorrect quote have to do with this post??? (First person would be addressing the survivor, (Mrs. Lincoln) and not a Dead President.

    Couldn't help it...deal with folks around here with the same afflictions...
     
  4. had the same guy. listed for 15,800. One line email asks for bottom dollar. I write him back with 23,700. Haven't heard from him since.
     
  5. coolbreeze1340
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    I would have paid the man the agreed to price and kept the deal. It is much easy to look in the mirror at a man that made a bad purchase than a man that doesn't stand behind a handshake agreement. SORRY, if it seems like whining to you, I take it as more venting then anything else. I'm sure most of us get excited on our latest toys (hell, read some of the posts, sounds like kids with a new puppy) and disappointment is part of life, so be it. Sure doesn't mean we all don't have to the right to be pissed off when we have been pissed on and vent a little steam! Time for a cocktail and a good nights sleep. Maybe tomorrow someone will offer me a 32' Ford that they DON'T want to really sell.:rolleyes:
     
  6. coolbreeze1340
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    Hell, on the plus side my new 4-post lift I bought to fit another car in my shop will be here Thursday! Glad I was buying one already and it wasn't just to fit the truck inside!
     
  7. c-10 simplex
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    Why?

    Because people are full of shit. Now, if he had sat down and talked and said he had second thoughts etc. asked you to reconsider etc. and them maybe offered you a beer or something for your time that would be one thing.

    It is because we suck as a society----i was just thinking about this---Let's say the Germans and Japanese decided to get crazy today. Do you think we would take care of it within 4 years or would we let it drag on for 10-12-14 or more years?

    We, as a society, have our heads up our culus and we need to wake up NOW!
     
  8. coolbreeze1340
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    Never thought about it but I think you are correct (on the first part). If he would have just sat down and talked like a man, spilled a beer, and explained what the whole deal was I would have gave him an out and still had respect for the dude. Oh well, lesson learned, even the some ol' dudes don't respect good old fashion values.
     
  9. Don's Hot Rods
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    I had that happen years ago when we lived in California. Went to see a boat advertised in the paper, left a deposit and agreed to pick it up a couple of days later with cash. Next day the guy comes by my house and puts the deposit in the mailbox with a note saying he "decided to sell it to his Son." BS, someone offered him more money ! :mad:

    I had our company Attorney write him a letter stating we had a contract and if he didn't sell me the boat we were going to sue for the value of a comparable boat and damages. The next day he called me and said "Ok, come get your boat, but I want cash !" I told him that was what we were going to do anyway. :D

    He was not overly friendly when I went to pick it up. :p

    Don
     
  10. coolmilitary
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    Don. Your my role model.
    That story is great!
     
  11. I dunno about these people but I have a one owner Winfield build showcar with two Hemis in it, only ran on the salt once at 344.912MPH.....................ONLY $20!!!
    (And if you believe that boy have I got some stuff for you.......!)

    I may just crawl back into my hole now.....

    Doc.
     
  12. coolbreeze1340
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    Yeah, I had soneone suggest I do the same because a verbal aggreement is still an agreement in the eyes of the court but I wouldn't do that to my worse enemy. I'm out some time and a little money but if I threatened legal action that would just make me as big as a dick as he is. Rumor this morning is another car guy, that has been friends of my family for over 30 years and his neighbor, got involved. Time will tell. This is a small community and what comes around goes around!
     
  13. 6inarow
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    Yeah, the world is full of people like that. Get over it. There are worse things in life. Not like its the last 57 Ford pick up out there.
     
  14. Jims35
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    I started to sell my 35 chev a couple of weeks ago. Ask for a deposit,never got it. Said he would get back with me later. After thinking it over, i decided I never wanted to sell right now. He made it easy for me when he called back and said he was having problems getting the cash together and would like for me to drop the price a little bit. I said ,'sure ,how about $1.00 ' ? He hung up on me,sure made me feel good,so i removed it from craigs list. If he had made a deposit, I would have sold it.
     
  15. Mr48chev
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    You gave him time to get interested in and start liking the truck again. Years ago a friend of mine in McGregor Texas was driving his little 55 Chevy 2 door post down the street and a guy with a convoy truck flagged him down and asked if he wanted to sell it. He shot the guy a price and the guy pulled a wad of hundreds out of his pocket and paid him on the spot and then drove him home to get the title. If he had had time to think about it he would never had sold the car.
     
  16. junkyardjeff
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    The buyer of my wagon pulled out cash and he took it home,hated to let it go but I have too many cars and need the cash to finish my tow vehicle and build a Y block for the 55 sunliner.
     
  17. 48fordnut
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    I sold a 67 gt mustang body, had been a factory race car. sold to this guy, said he would have the money sent to me in a week.Ok we have a deal. 3 days later another person said I will give you 5k more if you get out of the deal. said I can't ,I gave my word. I still feel good about it. Mans word is worth everything.
     
  18. Is THIS the way you want to buy the truck? So you like the truck, the owner's an old fart who wants attention, lesson learned...

    I had a seller back out of a deal on a Norton I really really wanted. An older club member asked me how much mental energy, time and conversation I was going to waste on the deal....
     
  19. young'n'poor
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    I had a guy call me on a craigslist ad, try to haggle me down to half the price without hearing the truck run or seeing it in person. When I told him to come drive the truck and make me a cash offer he responded "I don't have that kinda money, I was hoping we could work out payments".

    I have noticed recently that a lot of older gentlemen around here put a car up for sale seemingly just to see what they could get, and no offer will actually buy it.
     
  20. Paul
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    everybody has a right to change their mind,
    just like everybody has a right to whine on the internet
     
  21. Gman0046
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    Car sales are not easy. The last two cars I've sold were a real PITA. I had no idea there were that many dipshits out there. The car in my avatar has never been for sale but I've had more people ask if it was for sale then a lot of other cars I've owned. I guess wagons are still a hot item. As I really don't want to sell it, I'm careful not to shoot someone a price as they might say OK and I'll have to honor my word and sell them the car.
     
  22. VoodooTwin
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    x 2.
     
  23. coolbreeze1340
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  24. VoodooTwin
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    Did you leave the seller a deposit for the truck? If not, case closed. Move on with a very cheap lesson learned.
     
  25. coolbreeze1340
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    Only if they are not a man of their word. When you make a deal and offer your hand to seal the deal that SHOULD mean something. In the court of law it is binding and in life it means everything. Changing your mind is fine before you agree on a price, time to pick-up, etc... Changing your mind when a buyer meets all the demands, makes arrangements for pick-up, and shows up on your doorstep with the cash is a "DICKHEAD" move.

    As the plot thickens. Old man told another car guy, that in return called me, that he backed out because his "buddy that owns the car lot" said he should be able to get more out of it! Yep, it's the friend of MY family/neighbor of his. I have turned that prick unto more Fing cars that he bought and flipped or fixed and flipped than you can shake a stick at! I have refered 100's of people to his shop for work and my entire family has always helped anyway we could from the first day his shop opened! Somethings deserve a major ass kick'in. Fuck it, they can all rot in hell
     
  26. VoodooTwin
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    Wow. Over react much? LOL.
     
  27. olcurmdgeon
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    My buddy had a steel deuce three window he bought in Minnesota, candy root beer, front and rear were Jag. Anyway guy comes to me and asks me if I knew of any deuces for sale. I said I have a buddy in next town over but I doubt it was for sale. He went over, my buddy was having a bad day in the shop and kept pestering him about buying the car. Finally pissed off he shot a price and the guy said "I'll take it". I am sure my buddy thought the price was outrageous and the guy would just walk away. But being honorable he stood by his word and sold the car. Regrets it to this day. Oh by the way, this coupe we found was in Street Rodder, being best deuce in the 70s at the Merc-Deuce reunion which makes the pain more acute. Moral to the story, always send strangers seeking to buy what isn't for sale packing down the road after the first "its not for sale" statement.
     
  28. Fordtudor37
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    I understand you feelings, but remember it's only you who is upset right now and that does no good for your health.
    Four years ago I was selling a '48 PU and a neighbor who has a large business came buy and made an offer on my truck. Shook hands, deal done or so I thought.
    2 days no phone call, no message so I stopped by (only lived 5 miles from us for over 20 years) and found out they had moved to Georgia the day after he made the deal with me.
    You can't trust anyone anymore.
    My motto - I'll return your deposit, but it ain't sold till ALL the cash is in my hand.
     
  29. You're damned right, John B !!!
     
  30. 48FordFanatic
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    .

    Then there are the guys who say "will you hold it for me and I'll be back with the cash."....then they never return and you missed a sale while holding it. It works both ways. So if you want to buy something don't consider it a deal until some form of payment has been made. It doesn't have to be the full cash amount . Even $20 will be binding if you get a BOS with the deposit and the balance shown.

    So if you figure you owned the car on a handshake or a word of mouth deal, then if it got hit by a bus before you got back to pay for it would you have gone through with it. Remember a deal is a deal !
     
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