Customs Will these new Cragar wheels get me banned???

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Everything seemed pretty mellow last I checked. Why are you still on a rampage?

 

rampage?? Never was...

 

I bought my set of Elimintator 500s based on looks and price. I got one of the first sets out there, fought with many suppliers and finally got them from jegs for $120 ea the first day they put them on sale. They've been on my 5000lb+ wagon (The Mercury that was shown earlier in the thread) for almost a year and a half. They still look brand new and have survived many 90mph jaunts with 2.5+ tons of steel on top of them. I'm very satisfied and would buy another set in a heartbeat.

No, they are not 200% period correct replicas, but I feel much better rolling such a heavy car on new wheels than some 40 yr old originals. Sure if I were insane I could have bought Radirs, but at $320+ a piece, Radir can kiss my ass. I could also care less where they are made, Osama Bin laden himself could have made them and I'd still be perfectly satisfied.

 

My opinion, I don't think you were ever on a rampage. You have made a lot of good points! This is the HAMB. Traditional Hot Rods and Customs! I do like to see some slight deviation now and then, like postings on early 70's style drag racing, early 70's low riders and vans, but most cars/vans are from the 50's-60's.
If someone does want to build a period correct car, be it from the 50's-60's or whatever they do need to do some research.

 

You folks take this hobby way to serious. After reading all of this BS, I want to change my earlier suggestion. Just put one of your questionable tire and wheel combinations on and put one in the trunk, one in the back seat and tie one to the roof. Then during the show rotate them and put the one that is on the left front on the right rear. Do this enough times during the show that you will be back where you started. Nobody will mess with you because they will think you have some mental issues.

This may not be a good idea. It is only a suggestion.

 

Serious? Never. Constructive hot rod conversation? That's where I thought it was.


There was a post several weeks back about "witchita kustoms" (I believe that's what they called em) and some decent examples were shown. I always liked that style and never really gave it a handle like that. I bring it up because that's where that vibe really shines, that 60s look that I personally like. Another look that morphed in was Indy tires on mags. While mostly seen on over-the-top showrods it was also getting it's way on to some of the cherished cars like Deuce hiboys and Model A cpes as well as the gratuitous Fad T. I say Indy tires generically, I know some of the gold line 'Stones and Goodyear Blue Streaks were used elsewhere. Just giving a name to a look. Without calling it right or wrong it just happened to be a style that developed. Same/same with the WWW thing.

I'm glad this question was raised and it relates to the post last fall about the 58 wagon at Hunnert. I run ideas by my companions all the time. Sometimes we end up in philosophical or history discussions too. This post/conversation is only missing a milk crate and a cup of coffee to be taking place in a garage near you. That is, unless your perspective is to hang on every word and judge accordingly.

 

Hell, I love that sound, you know,the sound of a nail being hit perfectly and squarely on the head. I don't have a "period perfect" ride, I prefer to think of it as "traditionally inspired", and this post sums up the tradition I get inspired by. Tradition doesn't have to be a straitjacket, and cycle fenders can be wild!
Paul

 

From reading post last fall any thing you do is subject to the person at the gate checking at the car show you are attending. This opinion can vary from person to person. So find a couple of old pictures from that era of what your trying to do, go for it, and have fun. In life if you ask 100 people an opinion on style you will get 100 different opinions. So go for whay works for you and you got it made, thats how we did it in the 50's and 60's before message boards.

 

And right..... This wide whites on performance wheels argument is a true indicator of how far we have strayed from the righteous path. The HAMB is awash in dilution in the name of "not offending."

I applaud the original poster for asking his question. He is taking a step many lazy bastards won't, and expanding his understanding of what the guidelines are before building something that will confuse others. If he was asking about blue and red AN fittings on a '40s build, or a new Flaming River steering wheel on his '50s convertible, the advice would be different. What he's asking about, in reference to the wide whites, is a valid question, and yes he can spend his money how he wants, but do not expect people that really know to agree that he nailed it.

If you feel that you can do whatever you want...



Then you are not respecting tradition and I really don't see what you are doing here. There are plenty of other rat rod boards designed to increase the absurdity of the automobile that would love to have another hell yeah, fuck 'em all type to rally ignorance in the face of a lack of taking time to research and build something that pays homage to the past, and upholds what this very website was started for.

 

Until The HAMB starts paying to build your hot rod i wouldnt car what the crap they think of it. I am 100% traditional when it comes to my hot rods but i understand that you may not build your car that way and thats fine its your car. I see more untraditional BS at shows that are supposed to be "purist traditional" shows than anywhere. The whole "rat rod" BS that has taken over these traditional shows is the worst about as far away from"traditional" as you can get. Things of this nature are the reason i WILL NOT be renewing my HAMB membership come next month. Its the very thing that is destroying hot rodding. Its abunch of Wannabes who think they are a better hot rodder than you. Well thats crap if your building a hot rod why should you build the way johnny betterthanyou wants it instead of the way you want? Because thats just what we need another rusty chopped and channeled coupe with some creative name on the door that says just how unoriginal this person is. This is not what its about.

 

"build something that pays homage to the past "-Hemi

Hell, I like that.... I like that a lot.
Paul

 

An old rodder friend of mine who was actually building rod's back in the 50's is dismayed over what is being called traditional today. His Model A coupe was in primer for a short period of time(weeks not months or years) and he mentioned how embarassed he was driving it around in primer.

He showed me some pics of the local club members cars back then and all were painted except one fellows roadster..and it did no have an engine in it at the time.

Much of the mix matched crap we see today is due to one magazines "dare to be different" campaign they started back in the 1990's.

Oh, Falcongeorge I agree with your "list" of abhorrent trends but I would also add aircraft seats to your list.

 

Don't let the door hit ya in the ass...

Those that want to blame the HAMB for all of this are FULL OF SHIT.

 

Those that want to blame the HAMB for all of this are FULL OF SHIT
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Its not "the hamb" thats to blame its all the A$$holes that have invaded the hamb that think they rule the hot rod world when really there just posers who follow whatever "traditional" trend is going at the time and have no idea how to do anything on there own.

 

Wow, nothin' beats a debate, makes me sort of laugh at how serious and angry people get! I remember kids at the ball field taking there ball and bat an goin home because something was not their way. Change is constant, look around at our country, anyway, my opinion the wheels look good with blackwalls, enough said. Happy New Year.

 

For the record, I would LOVE to stand in a sea of cookie-cutter black roadsters if they were all dialed in and true. The subtle variations would be a joy to check out. I'd love to say "right on!" time and time again instead of wincing at the abortions and "WTF?? choices" I have to look at now.

Also primer is used as preparation for a finished product, not a top coat, and faking rust and patina are like bolting tits on a dude.

 

looks like I just found a new quote for my signature!

 

I actually considered those same wheels for my 51, but ended up ordering steelies with spider caps. I may still get a set when money permits.

-Dave

 

Why ask ? If you like what you have,thats good enough for me,who are these gate cops anyway? and what gives them the right to decide? Cool is a subjective thing anyway. I would never belong to a club that would have me as a member--Groucho Marx

 

Why ask ? If you like what you have,thats good enough for me,who are these gate cops anyway? and what gives them the right to decide? Cool is a subjective thing anyway. I would never belong to a club that would have me as a member--Groucho Marx

 

He ask about gaining entrance to a specific show....stick around and READ, LISTEN & LEARN!

 

The fact that it's their show, their green funding it, their effort making it what they want, their hard work, providing the show in the first place and therefore if you Wanna go, you got I respect their right to impose whatever criteria they see fit.
Paul

 

That definitely had a part in it, particularly Will Handzel's '31 unpainted roadster. Will's, at least, was a well built car.

 

If you don't care, then why are you even here?

What is it with all these people?

 

Now that is some ugly shit!! I don't care who you are.

 

"Rat Rods... allowing sellers to get rid of their rusty, junk parts to a willing, paying crowd without guilt"

 

Like I said on your thread on our board, I like the wheels. My Dad had Indy mags on his '59 Impala, and later on his '59 El Camino in '69 when he arrived home from his time in Vietnam.

I still think that '60s style wheels on a skirted '50s custom with whitewalls, are an anachronism.

 

Oh oh.......you'll have people scrambling for their dictionaries! Huh...yo, what's an anachronism?


Best description I've ever heard....ANACHRONISM: "Guy in a suit of armor wearing a digital watch."

 

Hmm. you know, I wasnt even addressing the whole show thing, just the usual "build it your way" horsecrap, but you make a VERY good point that I really hadn't considered. A LOT of really good stuff going on here.