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Will this trans work on the streat?????

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by blacktopbutcher, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. blacktopbutcher
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    I have a chance to buy a $1800 trans for almost nothing. It was built for a race car and has a reverse manual valve body with a transbrake.
    I under stand I will have to shift this thing manual all the time. Is this condusive for a street car or no. The tranny is built very stout by a reputible shop.

    It is a th400 I plan on running it beghind a sbc with about 400hp, 415ft/lb tq

    Should I buy it or no.?????
     
  2. 53sled
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    i don't see why not. proper torque converter and trans cooler, just make sure the lock button is out of the way, you don't want to hit it by accident. SCREEEECHHHHHH!!!!!!:eek:
     
  3. AA/Fuel34fordpu
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    Why Hell yes buy it if its fresh & cheap!
     
  4. blacktopbutcher
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    The tranny has only 500 miles on it.
     
  5. hotroder69
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    With a manual shift valve there is no slip so when you change gears it is instant, or very rough. I drove one on the street for a while and got tired of chriping the tires ALL the time.
    But what ever blows your kilt up.:D
     
  6. Steve45HD
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    Not my decision to buy but if you want a comparative heres one for ya Speedway sells a Remaned blueprinted TH400 short or long shaft for 650 bucks ! Thats a great tranny and isnt anything complicated to be buyin it for 1800...............my two scence.........
     
  7. blacktopbutcher
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    That is what I was thinking. I would have to run a shifter with no detent I would think.

    What stall should I run for a converter. He is offer two with the trans. Obviosly high stalls because they were for a race car.
    3000 9'' 5000'' 8''

    What stall should I run with this set up.
     
  8. I suppose it's worth buying for a really good price. It's way overkill for the application, though. A good 350 with a governor would be the way to go.
    Do you plan on drag racing your car at the track?
     
  9. blacktopbutcher
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    I could probably get the trans for about $300-$400 Maybe cheaper.
     
  10. blacktopbutcher
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    I definately would like to bring my car to the track once in awhile.
    But seeing I have no door handles (shaved) currently I don't no If I will be able to.
     
  11. Retrorod
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    I would run the 3000 rpm stall converter, the 5000 stall would run too hot and the slip at most speeds would make you crazy. The 3000 rpm converter would at least take some of the sting out of the high pressure shifts.
     
  12. Thirdyfivepickup
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    I run a manual valve body and its not an issue. The trans brake is the issue. My cousin had one in his TH400 and blew it up twice before removing the brake. He said that's why they call them a trans break...

    Like they said... its overkill for what you need.
     
  13. blacktopbutcher
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    I am not limited to those two converters. If I had to buy something more suitable I would. But what would be recommended as Ideal or close.
    I would be driving this car mainly on the street.
     
  14. Steve45HD
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    ooops.................i'll go back under my rock now and finish reading before i post again
     
  15. blacktopbutcher
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    Is it possible to take out the transbrake. I don't know much about auto trannys. Pretty ignorant when It comes to them actually.

    If I do get it, it is because it is cheap enough that it will fit into my minimal budget.
     
  16. luckydevil
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    Run a ratchet type shifter. I like the B&M pro ratchet. Who made the converters? For a street car you probably don't want to run anything higher than a 3000. A 2400 would be ideal. If you buy the trans and get both converters I would be interested in buying the 5000 for my race car depending on who made it.
     
  17. blacktopbutcher
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    The 2 converters are a B&M 9 inch 3500 stall (i thought it was a 3000stall guess not) and the other is a 8 inch 5000 stall with antibalooning plates for NOS made by trans specialty
     
  18. around here its called over acceleration, (even though your not)ANY knid of chirp and ya get a ticket,I guess it depends on how bad a dick your local cop is where you are ,But i stopped running full race tranny on the street because of it -100 clams ea ticket :mad:
     
  19. That's only a thousand trips down the strip and back the return road!:eek:
     
  20. luckydevil
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    I'm not familiar with Trans Speciality. If it were a Coan or TCI I would buy it in a second. I still may be interested. Let me know if you get it and how much you want.
     
  21. blacktopbutcher
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    Never really thought of it like that.
     
  22. blacktopbutcher
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    The cops around hear are cool. The cheif runs a cruise night at his bar. Good guy. Most of them are car guys too.
     
  23. Thirdyfivepickup
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    Trans Specialty (TSI) is an outfit out of PA. (Assuming we are talking about the same entity.) They are on par with Coan as far as quality. They just don't have as popular of a name. I've sold a lot of their stuff and never had a complaint.
     
  24. Jim Marlett
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    500 miles on the drag strip is a whole lotta miles! If that is the case, it should be ready for an overhaul.
     
  25. blacktopbutcher
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  26. blacktopbutcher
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    Another thing, he said it has been sitting in the car for two years.

    Would that have any effect on the tranny.
    I really appreciate all the input.
     
  27. Bigcheese327
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    If you can get it cheaply, do so. Then flip it on ebay and use the money to build a Muncie (if you want to shift) or a TH-200-R4 (automatic and overdrive - perfect for driving). That trans doesn't sound like any fun on the street to me.
     
  28. Where your converter stalls is totally dependent on how much torque you are makeing and how heavy you car is. The stall numbers are nominal. TCI makes a nice 11" converter that stalls about 1000 over a stock converter.They call it a break away. Probably a better option than your higher stall converters for a streeter. Looks like about a 280.00 part.

    I probably wouldn't be afraid to run it on the the street but I'm a goofball. As has already been said you should either make damn sure you can't set the trans brake by mistake or remove it.
     
  29. luckydevil
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    Don't even worry about the transbrake. You have to keep it in order to get the car into reverse. The transbrake is usually run through a momentary button ("on" when you push the button, "off" when you relase the button) so it would be hard to accidently activate it. Even if you hit the button by accident it is not going to stay on. It's not like you can drive around with the transbrake on and burn up your trans. The transbrake is really not an issue. The only issue I see would be if you want to shift the car manually all the time. For $300 or $400 it sounds like a steal to me. The converters alone are worth that.
     
  30. blacktopbutcher
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    I think I am going to get it even if I don't use it in this project. It is to good of a deal to pass up.

    Plus I don't mind shifting manually. If I don't like it I will take it out and put something else in.
     

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