Register now to get rid of these ads!

winding noise when I accelerate

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sobpunx, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. sobpunx
    Joined: Feb 7, 2009
    Posts: 314

    sobpunx
    Member

    Hello,
    I don't post much but you guys seem to know your **** so here goes.
    I have a 65 f-100 with 302 and a c-4 trans, yesterday I was driving home on I-5 and I was hearing a very high pitch whining noise when I'm going around 55 mph then it would go away. Then I pulled off of the highway and when I started to accelerate their was a low pitch winding noise and it hasn't gone away. and the high pitch whine starts up around 55 and goes away at about 65 mph. their is no noise when its in park and I rev it up but nothing.
    I checked for a vacuum leak, nothing checked the rear diff. it was a little bit low so I filed it up and nothing, any ideas?
    thanks
    mat
     
  2. jcs64
    Joined: Apr 25, 2005
    Posts: 532

    jcs64
    Member

    torque converter. slipping or low on fluid?
     
  3. sobpunx
    Joined: Feb 7, 2009
    Posts: 314

    sobpunx
    Member

    fluid is good, how can I tell if the torque converter is bad?
    It has always slipped a little bit going into second at a low rate of speed but not at higher speeds but it is shifting just fine.
     
  4. jcs64
    Joined: Apr 25, 2005
    Posts: 532

    jcs64
    Member

    my high stall conv. whines like crazy. Im just waiting for it to go. Drive it till it breaks, then you know what to look for.
     
  5. sobpunx
    Joined: Feb 7, 2009
    Posts: 314

    sobpunx
    Member

    It's my daily driver and only mode of transportation so I don't want to get stuck somewhere
     
  6. ckunsman89
    Joined: Feb 9, 2010
    Posts: 96

    ckunsman89
    Member
    from cocoa, FL.

    your best bet is to take it into a shop where they can raise the truck up on a lift and have someone in the cab run the truck with another guy under the truck with a mechanic's stethescope to pinpoint the wine. this will help you quickly pinpoint the noise and save you from costly unnecessary part changes.
     
  7. David Chandler
    Joined: Jan 27, 2007
    Posts: 1,101

    David Chandler
    Member

    Too much slop in the rear end? My Nova has a whine when I back off the throttle. At higher speeds it's not as noticable. It probably gets beyond my hearing range.
     
  8. falcongeorge
    Joined: Aug 26, 2010
    Posts: 18,339

    falcongeorge
    Member
    from BC

    Front pump will make a high pitched whine when its about to die
     
  9. gtkane
    Joined: Jan 25, 2009
    Posts: 327

    gtkane
    Member

    Pinion bearings...
     
  10. sobpunx
    Joined: Feb 7, 2009
    Posts: 314

    sobpunx
    Member

    what is a pinion bearing?

    whats the front pump?

    god I feel dumb...
     
  11. THE_DUDE
    Joined: Aug 22, 2009
    Posts: 2,601

    THE_DUDE
    Member

    My 50 did that, ****** was goin.
     
  12. sobpunx
    Joined: Feb 7, 2009
    Posts: 314

    sobpunx
    Member

    thats what I'm worried about, I'm out of work and can't afford to do a major repair or replace, I'm really hoping I can figure it out on the cheap or I'm screwed
     
  13. THE_DUDE
    Joined: Aug 22, 2009
    Posts: 2,601

    THE_DUDE
    Member

    Ran mine all summer like that
     
  14. Von Rigg Fink
    Joined: Jun 11, 2007
    Posts: 13,401

    Von Rigg Fink
    Member
    from Garage

    Front pump in the trans..possibly

    try to pin point the area the sound is coming from..maybe another person in the car with you as you drive moving around inside to find the closest source to the noise..

    than go from there

    I have used short pieces of broom handles, or short piece of conduit or 3/4" pvc pipe to hold to the area and up to my ear to get a pin point on the area of the sound, then you know where to start your investigative dis-***embly
     
  15. If it is coming from the rear differential it will increase and decrease with speed and load applied. If it starts off low and then loudens or increases in pitch as you accelerate it may be the rear differential. If at cruising speed the noise increases or decreases as you feather the throttle it may be the rear differential. Best bet is to take an experienced mechanic for a quick spin and let him hear the noise to give you a better idea. Don't just start throwing parts at it trying to make it go away!
     
  16. BadassBadger
    Joined: Oct 24, 2010
    Posts: 460

    BadassBadger
    Member
    from wisconsin

    superchargers are supposed to make a winning noise!..........oh wait ''goes read thread''
     
  17. sobpunx
    Joined: Feb 7, 2009
    Posts: 314

    sobpunx
    Member

    So I chocked my front wheels and jacked up the the rear end and had my girlfriend put it in drive and give it some gas, we couldn't hear the noise but I put a pipe to the rear diff. and it didn't sound too smooth inside of the pumpkin, I am ***uming that it should be a smooth sound, but I don't know.
    I also put the pipe against the transmission but that sounded smooth.
    If someone can tell me what the rear end should sound like that would give me some direction.
    thanks guys for your help
     
  18. If it is an open rear "non posi" and only one wheel is spinning you may get excessive noise as the differential is working/doing it's thing. If both wheels were turning equally and there was excessive noise you may have found the problem. Did you check the fluid level while you were under there?
     
  19. sobpunx
    Joined: Feb 7, 2009
    Posts: 314

    sobpunx
    Member

    I checked the fluid yester day and it was a little low so I filled it to the bottom of the plug.
    as for the wheels spinning, both of them spun with the truck jacked up but about a year ago I got stuck in some mud and the only wheel spinning was the p***enger so I'm ***uming its non posi. Its a stock ford 9 inch so I doubt it would be "posi"
     
  20. I say posi just so you know what I mean. A Ford would be Trac-lok or Equa-lok. If both wheels were spinning at equal speed you can rule out the spiders and side gears as the source of the excessive noise. It could still be carrier or pinion bearings even possibly an axle bearing but you should hear that further out towards the wheel.
     
  21. unkledaddy
    Joined: Jul 21, 2006
    Posts: 2,865

    unkledaddy
    Member

    Did the speedometer register the speeds of 55 to 65 MPH where you said you were having the problem?
     
  22. sobpunx
    Joined: Feb 7, 2009
    Posts: 314

    sobpunx
    Member

    I know what you meant by referring to posi, I just didn't know what ford called it.
    I think I'm going to have to wait till the weekend to open any thing up, I live in an apartment and they don't take kindly to me working on my truck
    thanks for your help
     
  23. sobpunx
    Joined: Feb 7, 2009
    Posts: 314

    sobpunx
    Member

    I don't know, it made a lower pitch noise at lower speeds and a high pitch noise at higher speeds, I don't think I could of got my girlfriend to rev it up that high, she was scared the truck was gonna fall and go speeding off.:rolleyes:
     
  24. Gator
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
    Posts: 4,016

    Gator
    Member
    from Statham Ga

    If it is a limited slip rear you need to make sure and put the proper additive in the gear oil - you can get it at any good parts store.
     
  25. gas pumper
    Joined: Aug 13, 2007
    Posts: 2,960

    gas pumper
    Member

    Normal rear end noises are scarry.
    Lots of clunking and banging going on in there when no load is applied.

    It could still be your problem, but unless it's the same noise you hear driving, it ain't the rear.
     
  26. sobpunx
    Joined: Feb 7, 2009
    Posts: 314

    sobpunx
    Member

    how do I know if it is a limited slip rear end? I have looked for any id tags on it and couldn't find one, the only way I know its a 9 inch is from the vin tag, which I know its right because I'm only the 3rd owner and it was well do***ented from my dad and the old timer that he got it from...
     
  27. DRUGASM
    Joined: Dec 16, 2008
    Posts: 2,817

    DRUGASM
    Member

    Are we certain its the rearend whining? Ive ridden in a car or two where the speedometer cable will whine like hell..... it would change pitch as you drove too.
     
  28. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
    Posts: 26,856

    Deuces

    Sometimes the radio speakers pick up static... Did you mess with or replace the plug wires recently??.. I had some problems like that years ago...
     
  29. Gator
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
    Posts: 4,016

    Gator
    Member
    from Statham Ga

    Here's a link to an ID guide.

    http://www.fordification.com/tech/rearends_ford03.htm

    BTW it won't hurt a thing to drain and refill the rear - shouldn't cost you more than $20. If that's not the problem consider it routine maintenance - I wouldn't be surprised if it had the original oil still in the diff. Put the additive in first then top off with the proper oil.
     
  30. Limited slip clutches do not make any noise when going straight ahead. The clutches only slip or shudder on turns where one wheel is turning faster than the other.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.