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Technical Winters 0516

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by "Casey K", Aug 1, 2025.

  1. "Casey K"
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    Just found this local, $750. Definitely doesn’t look like a normal quick change to me. Any info would help tons. Looking for a rear for the 28 roadster


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  2. Bandit Billy
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    Same bells as my Winters Champ. Different cover.
     
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  3. Joe Blow
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    The cover is a Winters K5160 Super Cover.
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  4. Bandit Billy
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    It looks like the cover is designed with reservoirs to retain gear lube during changes?
     
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  5. Joe Blow
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    Not sure......the bottom lip of the cover flange is down at the bottom of the jugs, so looks like you'd still lose a good amount of lube during changes??....but definitely reservoirs for extra capacity.
     
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  6. TCTND
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    Just some extra capacity to help keep the oil cool under hard conditions. If it's in good shape that's a good deal (as long as it has a diff, not a spool).
     
  7. Dave G in Gansevoort
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    Almost identical to this one:
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    If it has 5x5 bolt pattern it’s an older late model stock car rear axle, like this one was. This one has a locker, some say not ideal for the street, however it’s still a differential, not a spool. And yes it’s a good buy at that price if not damaged inside. Easy enough to check out. Ask the seller if he has a wheel for it, and bolt it on the right side. Stand it up on that end, and pull the thru-bolts out and take a look inside, if the seller will allow it.
     
  8. Dave G in Gansevoort
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    Just went back and looked at the picture more closely and it already has a wheel on the right side, and is standing up on it. Those bolts are 7/16 and easily removed.
     
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  9. "Casey K"
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    Pull the thru bolts out? The bolts holding the pumpkin together? To check the gears inside?
    Thanks for all the help so far!!
     
  10. Dave G in Gansevoort
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    Yes, those bolts go through the center and will allow you to take it apart. The housing is sealed with o-rings, so you can put it back together without any problems. Look for cracks in the center section casting around the nose of the pinion.
     
  11. "Casey K"
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    Makes sense. Is oil an issue? Does it need to be drained?
    Thanks for the tips!
     
  12. "Casey K"
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    Got it home. So far looks good. I will need to do lots more research to get any further into it.
     

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  13. Dave G in Gansevoort
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    Spool or locker? You got a good one there…
     
  14. "Casey K"
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    I think…. Noob I’m not sure. But here’s a photo. If I keep this one it’s going to be a lot more work then it would be worth for me. I’ll never use it to its full potential. I only traded a couple hundred dollars worth of model a fenders.

    I did find another quick change. An older guy has it and knows absolutely nothing about it. I can’t tell if it’s a Hali 301 or what. The lower 3 photos are of the new find. Any clue?
     

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  15. "Casey K"
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    Xtremeliner winters……. Hmmm
     

  16. To hold more gear lube for which also aided in cooling for long distance races and on Speedways One mile and bigger tracks- Like Trenton NJ, Nazareth PA, Langhorne PA, Syracuse NY etc...
    Some Super Covers also had a provision for a rear end cooler pump.

    For some reason many people overlook or seem to forget these are racecar parts!
     
  17. Dave G in Gansevoort
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    Both rears are essentially the same thing, just one has full floating huds and the other has Ford 9 inch style axles, would be my guess from the pictures. Your first one has a super cover, the second one has the normal cover. Good score on both****uming the cost was reasonable
     

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